Winter NSL's attendance was 71 percent of the summer competition

I agree, when there's no one in the stands watching it takes something away from the spectacle, at least when you're watching as a neutral. Compare the Copa America vs the Euros, even with reduced crowds the spectacle was chalk and cheese (although also Euros was better quality football which helped).

Maybe that's around the period that that all the youngsters who started out watching have started their own families and find it too difficult to get to games, and/or the cost is a prohibitor because they have family expenses... Just a theory

whispers in the wind say jbinnie is the modern day maharaja of football qld :football:

Jbinnine is one of the Most Respected people in Football in QLD Waz will tell you that so if you dont listen to me fine no skin off my back but you should listen to Jb I never said AAMI but Docklands does I agree that we need Stability but until more clubs are in there own Stadiums or at the Very Least are not at Overcrowded venues like AAMI Park, Bankwest and possibly the New SFS then we cant move to winter until the Stadium issue is sorted Roar have a Great Stadium that is poorly located but at least it only shares with a Rugby League team that only plays in the Queensland Cup which is state league but it's still a lot better then the overcrowding at AAMI Park

You completely ignored the part that Western United will shift the MAJORITY of its games to AAMI Park that's 5 tenants that play 3 different Sports and with Super Rugby played from January to June and NRL played from March to October that's going to make a Winter A-League impossible until either Western United's or Citys Stadium is built if either actually happens League and Union have to many friends in power so there not going anywhere nor are they shifting there seasons Honestly Winter I don't Disagree with the Goal of a Winter Season AS A LONG TERM GOAL but when 2 Queenslanders are telling you that a Winter shift is not the best idea right now then perhaps you should listen as we by far are the worst affected by a Summer Season and Benefit the most from Winter as far as the actual Weather goes whereas Victoria where your from is not that affected plus you guys have the only Retractable Roof Stadium in Australia

100% bang on as always jbinnie and with Victory Shifting all its games to AAMI Park and Western United planning to shift the Majority of there's to AAMI Park unless City or one of the Rugby teams move most of there games away from AAMI Park it's simply Impossible for a Winter Shift at least this season https://www.soccerscene.com.au/western-united-ceo-chris-pehlivanis-the-biggest-challenge-we-have-in-our-game-is-infrastructure/

Brainstrust. Statistic analysis is not our mutual friend's strongpoint. He puts a tremendous amount of research work into his comments but does not "obey" the basic rules of arriving at an accurate average as you have rightly pointed out. (take out the high and low figures) There is another danger area which he ignores, that being the accuracy of the actual figures reported. In viewing the excellent work done by NSL Oz Football it is obvious there are two ,three, or four clubs who ALWAYS report their 4 figure attendances ending in 2 or 3 zeroes, ie 3000,4000,2500. This is a dead giveaway that the counting of crowds was pure guesswork with no basis for accuracy and therefore they too should be ignored. When F Lowy set up his professional league his numbers crunchers advised that a home crowd of 10,000 would be needed to survive. Only two clubs have got anywhere near that ,Victory and Sydney FC. and there is nothing in the 27 year history of the NSL to suggest there was a club therein who could meet that criteria, summer or winter. Cheers jb.

This one coming is 2021 FFA Cup to be played Aug-Oct 2021. Woolloongong Wolves as NPL National Champs in 2019 gained auto entry (there was no 2020 NPL National Champs). Then there will be another 2022 edition next season starting sometime around March-April. The winner of this season's NPL National Champs to be held in Sep-Oct 2021, will get auto entry to 2022 FFA Cup. So yea, two FFA Cups in quick succession in the next year or so. The latter edition will have a new name as well..

Take out Perth Glory , Northern Spirit at North Sydney oval and look at the figures.

An interesting article and a passionate point of view. While as an older person and more stuck in my ways, I prefer watching the game live than on TV. But what has that got to do with when the A League is played. Looking back at historical records will show you what us oldies preferred to do way back then, not what today's teenagers and 20 or 30yo prefer. Which is what the APL and the FA with their broadcast partners must do. The speed of the game and the whole structure of matches does lend itself to cooler conditions. Sitting around for a couple of hours in stifling conditions of heat and direct sunshine is just plain dumb, let alone running [or walking] around stroking the ball about. It isn't good football. So from a pure footballing sense play in the cooler conditions. Now here is the BIG elephant in the room. The broadcaster, the money men, the ones pulling the strings behind the scenes. The season will be played when these people say it will. Yes they will consult all and sundry, they will take all of what we say onboard, but they have to make this a business decision not a sporting one. Asking you Winter or me isn't the answer, what should happen is two surveys: The first one conducted to see what a small number of football people people want. Ask 250 people who attended more than 5 A League games this past season between the ages of 15 and 30. A simple question. Wonder you attend the A League if it was played in (A) Summer [October- April] or (B) Winter [April-October] The second one a much broader sample. Try to ask 5000 fans who attend all football matches the same 2 questions. This way you would get what fans of the game would prefer. {not that anyone is going to do these surveys} I think most footballing people would prefer a winter season of some sort. Mainly to align all the footballing identities.