WILL GENIA: 'I don't get the Hoops hate - he goes balls out for 80 minutes every time'

By Will Genia / Expert

Michael Hooper equals George Gregan’s Wallabies captaincy record on Sunday and the mental toughness and physical resilence he’s shown is incredible.

I’ve been fortunate to play behind some amazing backrowers.

George Smith was phenomenal. He could do everything and had skills I haven’t seen any other backrowers possess.

David Pocock was the person who, if you had him on your team, you just felt safe. I don’t know how else to describe it. If he was there, I always thought ‘we’re going to be good’.

Michael Hooper is the same. You look across and see him and know he’s just going to go balls out for 80 minutes. He’s going to chase everything, tackle everything. He’s going to carry the ball in the 80th minute like he does in the first.

There are only a few players, where you think, ‘man, I feel so much better that he’s on my team’. Hoops is one of them.

On Sunday Hoops will captain Australia for the 59th time, equalling George Gregan’s record. It’s a moment to celebrate and yet there are some Australian rugby fans who won’t.

I just don’t understand the Michael Hooper hate. I really don’t, but it’s absolutely there.

‘It’s the hallmark of great players’
I first came across him in 2012 when he came into the Wallabies camp for games against Scotland and Wales.

He was shy and he kept to himself. Quite the alternative type of kid, he had grown up in Manly and loved to be out on the water on his surfboard, or cruising down the street on his skateboard.

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I remember watching him that year in Super Rugby and thinking ‘this kid’s like the Energizer Bunny’.

The first thing that stuck with me was his ability as a ball carrier. He had the No.7 on his back but almost played like a centre.

He was quicker than most backs, more agile than most of them too, but he possessed the tenacity and ferociousness of a backrower. It was the perfect combination and he’s refined his game to become elite in many facets, and much more than a traditional backrower.

He puts pressure on the defensive breakdown, works hard to be a physical presence and pest in that space, works incredibly hard on set pieces and is effective in all the jobs that are required of him in those areas.

It’s wonderful to see that growth from just this young kid who I thought was just a ball of energy, to become the star that he has.

When you played against him, you always had to be aware of where he was on the field – on defence more so than anything else – because he was such a dynamic ball carrier.

He’s got incredible leg drive, the ability to break a tackle and then once he gets into open space, the speed to devastate.

And you always knew that if you made a line break he would never give up chasing. We saw that last weekend against the All Blacks. A couple of times he forced them to make one extra pass to score a try because he’s the one guy who’s chasing back.

It’s the hallmark of great players that on both sides of the ball they’re constantly threatening, constantly working hard, particularly as a backrower.

‘It seemed to come naturally’
To be honest, at the start I didn’t see him being the leader at all.

Even when he was thrust into the Wallabies’ captaincy when Stephen Moore was injured, it really took me by surprise. He had to grow into it – was still young and inexperienced, and he was probably given the role because he was such a good player – he was always going to get picked and play 80 minutes.

What he lacked in experience he made up for in an ability to lead by example. That seemed to come naturally.

He’s had to grow a lot and mature into being a leader in the sense of managing the personalities in the group and making sure he’s available to different people who come from different backgrounds and different cultures.

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To his credit, he’s grown immensely in those areas. He’s a likeable guy, well respected, approachable and available to his teammates. It’s amazing to see his growth and how far he’s come from that young kid who was just chucked in and didn’t expect it.

Naturally, over the course of his career as a Wallaby he’s opened up even more, but I think his authentic self is quite a quiet guy, not very loud or very outspoken.

That’s what I admire about his leadership. First and foremost, he leads by example.

He’s an absolute freak of nature on the field. You don’t see anyone who gives 100 per cent the way that he does every second of every minute, within the 80 minutes.

You couple that with the fact that he only speaks when he feels it’s necessary to say something, and that’s powerful. People who speak a lot, and I’m not saying this is always the case, but more often it’s about them speaking about things that are more relevant to them than the team. I’ve always enjoyed that part of his leadership.

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What you get judged on more than anything else is your performances in games. That’s how you gain respect of your players, performing at a high level consistently, week in, week out.

There’s no doubt he has grown as a leader, delegating responsibility, trusting people around him, so that he doesn’t always have to be the voice that people are hearing.

Going into my last couple of years with the Wallabies, that was something he did very well – starting to trust people in terms of delegating responsibility.

‘I don’t understand the hate’
I was watching the third All Blacks game with my brother-in-law and he was shouting at the TV: “Hoops what are you doing there?!” Then he asked me: “Do you like Hoops?”.

He told me he didn’t rate him, but couldn’t give me a reason. Believe me, there are a lot of people who feel that way.

I just don’t understand the Michael Hooper hate. I really don’t, but it’s absolutely there.

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At that moment, the All Blacks made a line break and Hoops was one of the only players chasing back. I said: “Bro, what don’t you love about that?”.

That’s an example of what people don’t see. People expect their No.7 to just be over the ball and getting penalties. But the game is so much further than just that stereotype of what a seven is.

Watch him play the game and watch his influence in everything that he does. Whether it’s making the tackle, putting pressure on the ball, carrying the ball, chasing back, in scramble defence – everything he does, he’s effective at.

You can’t hate that! You can’t have anything but respect for that. It’s phenomenal. He deserves so much more respect than what he gets.

‘He’s facing a new challenge’
The last few weeks would have been incredibly tough for him. He’s not a selfish guy but if you look at it from his point of view, he’s been outstanding in all three games in the Bledisloe.

If I was picking a combined All Blacks and Wallabies team from the series, he’d be my No.7. Akira Ioane would be my six and Ardie Savea would be my eight. Hoops, Marika Koroibete and Samu Kerevi would be the only Australians to make the cut.

There’s not much more he could have done.

It’s always hard to be feeling that you’re not getting repaid for the effort that you put in, not that he’d ever said that.

He’s played 100-plus games for the Wallabies. He’s been through highs and lows. And he’s at the point in his career where he’s facing a new challenge – bringing a young group through a new cycle, guiding a new generation of Wallabies.

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What would be hard for him is managing expectation as far as wanting to win all the time but having an understanding that these guys are young, you have to be patient with them, work with them, get them to the level where you can win consistently. It’s going to take a little while.

‘It’s an incredible achievement’
I told him when he played his 100th Test that he should be incredibly proud, because from the moment he came into the Wallabies set-up he was excellent and elite in training and in games so consistently.

Love him or hate him, people have to understand to be at that level for that long, to have played 100 Tests and become the longest serving Australian captain, took so much mental toughness and resilience in the face of adversity.

To be able to go through all that, but still be an elite performer with that consistency, is remarkable.

You can’t ever let your standards drop. Look at those other captains – George Gregan and John Eales – who he’s overtaking.

As a captain, you have you have to demonstrate consistency, week in, week out on the training field, in the team culture, and then on the field, ultimately, with your performances.

That’s the only way you can have longevity.

I have so much respect for him. It’s an incredible achievement, and one that speaks to how good a player and how good a human being he is, as far as his commitment to the game, and his commitment to excellence.

The Crowd Says:

2021-09-19T22:08:36+00:00

1997 Brumbies

Roar Rookie


Sorry Birthday Suit I'm not a statistician nor privy top any inside knowledge. But I do have two eyes and can see that Pocock's role playing as an 8 changed. Especially off first and second phase attack, bouncing off the back of the scrum ball in hand or shovelling it to the halfback, also taking the first pass and hit up off lineout and taking a hit up around the corner on second phase play. As great as Pocock was he was not a great carrier of the ball, which was something he did more and more off playing at 8. Primarily this is the role of an 8, not a 7. This both played to Pocock's weakness and away from his strengths. I'm not blaming Hooper for anything, not sure where that came from? I actually I really admire him as a player, but I also don't pretend he was the best 7 in Australia during that time, nor do think he is beyond criticism. In fact I really don't think Hooper is has been held to account enough over his career in gold. My original post was about the perception of an inferior 7 playing in the Wallabies with a universally recognised better player being forced to shift into a different position. Players are judged by the number on their back, and rightly so, as each position requires a different skill set. Pocock can never be thought of as an all time great 7 because simply he did not play in that position enough, nor was he a great 8 because he just wasn't amazing in that role.

2021-09-13T01:20:14+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


some players simply generate more discussion for a number of reasons Sounds like you are with me soapit! And I do acknowledge your side of that ledger, he does generate praise along with the criticisms.

2021-09-13T00:44:26+00:00

soapit

Roar Guru


me stating that number of tests of course shouldnt be taken as it being a sole indicator of how much people want to talk about a player. other factors include, for example, slipper's 100 tests havent been without ever being dropped with many off the bench. slipper hasnt been captain for more than 50 of his tests. slipper isnt one of the highest paid players and on all the teams marketing. you'll note slipper also doesnt have articles discussing his positives regularly. some players simply generate more discussion for a number of reasons. i would expect if slipper generated as much discussion as hooper in general that there would be negative, and even incorrect, opinions given, to a reasonably comparable level to hooper

2021-09-12T23:41:42+00:00

numpty

Roar Rookie


Agreed. Had some good touches. The whole backrow performed well I thought. Swinton physical in D, Valetini physical in the carry and hooper doing hooper things. Samu could cause some trouble for a team like the boks i think on the fringes.

2021-09-12T14:11:09+00:00

No Arms

Roar Rookie


He’s playing great at the moment & yet I’m still not happy.. haha!! I’d think it was just me but another tragic told me he’s a light touch in contact & our win loss record is atrocious - I tend to agree

2021-09-12T13:17:56+00:00

TJ-Go Force!

Roar Rookie


Sorry, did you see how good Samu was off the bench? Nothing against Swinton, he played much better than the crap he was against the ABs. But eat your hat is just a troll comment.

2021-09-12T13:16:25+00:00

TJ-Go Force!

Roar Rookie


He was bloody good tonight!

2021-09-12T13:09:16+00:00

Sydney Slug

Roar Rookie


Geez Faith you must feel a bit silly now. Or you saw what you wanted to see.

2021-09-12T13:07:35+00:00

Sydney Slug

Roar Rookie


And yet Will Genia, someone who saw what was going on from slightly closer than an armchair pointed at a telly with a tinnie and a fag thinks otherwise.

2021-09-12T13:00:28+00:00

Sydney Slug

Roar Rookie


And yet Will Genia says he feels better off playing behind Hooper than not. A comment from someone who played behind Gill et al. Rugby used to pride itself on being a sport for many shapes and sizes, that is because the team can adapt to the skills each of those weird and wonderful people bring to the table.

2021-09-12T12:57:54+00:00

Sydney Slug

Roar Rookie


What a load of cobblers. When it comes to Will Genia or a bunch one eyed confirmation biased blowhards who have been up the bloke’s tree for 8 years I will take the champion Test player’s view every time.

2021-09-12T12:20:00+00:00

Morsie

Roar Rookie


Eat your hat mate.

2021-09-12T10:55:59+00:00

Birthday Suit

Roar Rookie


I mean this is just objectively wrong. He won the John Eales medal in 2013 and 2016 (he was also top 3 in voting in every year he didn’t win it) and was nominated for the IRB player of the year in 2015. If that isn’t ‘standing out’ then we clearly have different definitions of that term.

2021-09-12T10:39:27+00:00

Birthday Suit

Roar Rookie


He played the exact same game as he always did regardless of the number on his back and he explicitly said that multiple time. His stats didn’t change at all and his general gameplay was pretty much identical too. Do you have some additional info that everyone else doesn’t have? Or are you just making stuff up to blame Hooper for something?

2021-09-12T09:41:41+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Temperament is definitely something Gill didn’t have on Hooper. He was prone to doing some very silly things at the Reds. The Nic White suplex, some wild kicks and passes. Nothing crazy but not super calm. Another aspect was his professionalism. I’d heard he had shown up after the off season quite out of shape some seasons. He was one of the players suspended for the night out in Dublin while Hooper stayed in. Again, nothing terrible. But in a super competitive industry, it’s just one more little thing that put him behind some others

2021-09-12T09:22:05+00:00

Birthday Suit

Roar Rookie


If you think Hooper is the reason the Wallabies are an average team, you’re objectively wrong and it’s nothing to do with ‘shouting down’ – excellent attempt to deflect through. . I genuinely love a good discussion / debate about sport but the tired arguments about Hooper from the same vocal minority over and over and over again are just boring. You do you mate. Meanwhile 3 Australian coaches, his teammates (3 JE medals, soon to be 4), opposition players, sports journalists, the IRB (nominated for the best player in the world in 2015), the general public (voted ‘Australia’s choice’ 7 of the last 8 years) have all got it wrong. . Given that literally every qualified & professional opinion disagrees with you, doesn’t it seem likely that you just aren’t quite the rugby mastermind you think you are?

2021-09-12T09:17:37+00:00

numpty

Roar Rookie


Thats not the point. The point is that Samu is not the same style of player as pocock regardless of the skill level/talent. Pocock was a ruck monkey/terminator. Samu is much more suited to open pasture making linebreaks, offloads and playing link man.

2021-09-12T08:16:49+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Danty was outstanding. Not sure we’d have won that third test if he played.

2021-09-12T07:12:20+00:00

Tony H

Roar Pro


IMHO, McReight offers more in the backrow than Hooper, and less than Hooper would in midfield. That's the worst of both worlds. How good is Danty though?

2021-09-12T06:42:50+00:00

Ace

Guest


Hooper turning up to a breakdown and just touching a teammate is not counted.

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