Why the Knights should tinker with Taylor but leave Brooks behind

By Hairy / Roar Rookie

Ahead of the 2018 NRL season the Newcastle Knights signed Mitchell Pearce on a multimillion-dollar deal. He was signed as a premiership-winning general who would attract other quality soldiers to the cause and lead a young team of potential future stars out of the doldrums and onto many glorious victories.

Pearce has shouldered the burden of a famous name his entire career and endured plenty of disappointment in the Origin arena. There were more than a few off-field issues as well. There was a view he needed to get out the bubble of Sydney and the Roosters, and the move to the Knights looked like exactly what Pearce needed to go to the next level and add a new chapter in his growing folklore.

Alas, his old ways caught up with him and such great heights were not achieved. True, the Knights made the finals a couple of times, and Pearce was able to help attract quality players to the club, such as David Klemmer and Tyson Frizell. He also no doubt played a role in the developments of a number of the next generation of stars, like Kalyn Ponga, Tex Hoy, Bradman Best, the Saifiti brothers, Mitch Barnett, Lachlan Fitzgibbon and Jake Clifford.

Ultimately, though, the latest scandal has seen him flit off to France to end his career away from the big time.

Mitchell Pearce (Photo by Jason McCawley/Getty Images)

Now the Knights are searching once more for their general, as they really have been since the great Andrew Johns retired. The difference now is the great man himself is back at the club to help identify and train his successor personally.

There are a few options, but no-one will come as the complete package. All will require tinkering. All come with risks.

Currently the Knights are publicly committing to promoting from within. They have Clifford on the books, and Adam Clune has come over from the Dragons. I think this is just to save face until they can work out what they want. If they had thought their stocks were that high, they wouldn’t have tried to keep Pearce and orchestrate swap deals. I will say that they can probably do worse than those two, but they could do better too.

The most popular theory has been that they need to lure Luke Brooks from the Tigers. Some even believe that would be the best deal for both clubs and the player.

The third and, I believe, the best option would be to pull Ash Taylor out of his train and trial with the Warriors and get him up to Newcastle.

Both Taylor and Brooks share similarities with Mitchell Pearce. All have had the burden of expectation from a young age. While Pearce won a premiership, you could argue he didn’t live up to the expectation. Taylor and Brooks certainly have not.

Ash Taylor (Photo by Jason O’Brien/Getty Images)

The difference between Taylor and the careers of Brooks and Pearce are the mentors and partners they have had along the way.

Pearce played alongside James Maloney, who was a champion half who had a habit of winning. He was in a great system with Trent Robinson, with great leaders such as Sonny Bill Williams, Jake Friend and Boyd Cordner. More importantly, for at least two years Andrew Johns worked with the Roosters and specifically with Pearce. He helped create the premiership-winning and Origin-playing – albeit losing – halfback the Knights coveted.

Luke Brooks was hailed the next Andrew Johns before even playing his first game, but he never had the likes of Johns to teach him his craft. However, he did have around him club legends Benji Marshall and Robbie Farah as well as Jason Taylor, who was a formidable halfback in his day. Brooks was given an apprenticeship of sorts and then given the keys to the team repeatedly, but he is yet to take that opportunity in its entirety.

Brooks has ticked a few more boxes than Taylor to date, though I wonder if Taylor has been given the same chances.

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Taylor was also told he was the next big thing at a young age and was paid a ridiculous amount of money for that talent and potential alone. He was moved out of the Broncos system and into a Titans system, which had no runs on the board. He was paid as a premiership-winning halfback and expected to produce those results.

The reality was he had years of learning yet before he could even come close to that, and the pressure and expectation got the better of him. It’s understandable, really. Who did he have to learn from? Who was guiding him?

I wonder how different it would have played out had the Storm signed him at that stage. It would have been for less money, but he could have done a proper apprenticeship under the likes of Cooper Cronk, Billy Slater or Cameron Smith. These are the clubs that bring in the likes of either Johns brother to mentor and train their halves.

With the guidance of Johns behind him, Taylor can improve out of sight. On a minimal contract the pressure will be off, and he can just be a sponge. If it doesn’t work out, the Knights can revert to their current plan and be no worse off.

I think Adam Clune can still figure in this equation too. Nothing has come easy for Clune. Of diminutive stature and perhaps not the most talented, Clune had to work the hardest to get his shot at the NRL. This contrasts significantly with Taylor’s experience, yet they find themselves in similar positions now – apart from their bank accounts, I guess. Clune would be the perfect running mate to teach him the effort areas and the work that needs to go into being an NRL player.

So with that in mind I can’t help but feel that Taylor has the much larger upside and that perhaps Brooks has peaked. As a bonus he would cost a third of Brooks’ contract, money which could be used to sure up Ponga or boost other areas.

Johns can then tinker with Taylor, focusing on the nuance that makes good players great. In the end the Knights could have their next great general to lead them to glory once more.

The Crowd Says:

2021-12-02T23:19:35+00:00

Forty Twenty

Roar Rookie


He sounds like a great mentor but I'd be more convinced in the power of great mentors to influence the trajectory of players if any of them did it with any consistency. It's not a criticism of anyone, it's just observing the facts. Mitchell Pearce played some great games at the Knights just like he did at the Chooks and failed to have any influence in the games that count which are the finals games. If Pearce became more like Andrew Johns after being mentored by Bell , then there would be some evidence that it was Bell who made the difference but it didn't happen. There have been numerous halves at the Knights who haven't excelled despite having a great mentor.

2021-12-02T22:37:36+00:00

Short Memory

Roar Rookie


Having read the recent reports that Warriors are also pursuing Dylan Brown from the Eels, I am beginning to formulate a theory that Nathan Brown's strategy to win a premiership in the next 5 years is to buy up all the playmakers from all the other clubs, until Warriors have every half in the comp under contract, and the other teams are left half-less... :laughing:

2021-12-02T20:34:52+00:00

Dogs Of War

Roar Guru


https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/5099357/mentor-allan-bell-says-mitchell-pearce-will-thrive-as-a-knights-leader/ Allan Bell mentors most Knights players. He is a legend of the club.

2021-12-01T05:58:12+00:00

watcher

Guest


At the Warriors he is only on a Train and Trial to prove his fitness. Brown has praised how he is training so a full contract will not be far away. They want him as a back up to Sean Johnson.

2021-12-01T04:50:53+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


You may be right. I suspect Taylor lacks a bit of confidence and probably dwells on things too much. Unfortunately, Jimmy Maloney's famously goldfish-like memory probably can't be taught.

2021-12-01T04:49:24+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


Matty Johns is regarded much more highly than Andrew as a coach/mentor.

2021-12-01T02:10:09+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


It’s a good point… “You know what I’d do in this situation, chip and chase, regather, throw a 30 metres cutout pass, backup and then banana kick to my winger on the other side of the field. Just do that…”

2021-11-30T23:44:45+00:00

Randy

Roar Rookie


Taylor was linked to the Raiders (as was Brooks I think). Happy we got Fogarty instead. Taylor wasn't the player we needed but I wonder about his mental fortitude. He seems like a player that doesn't want to, or even knows how to work hard. He drifts in and out of games as bad as any half i've seen, at times looks completely disinterested. Hopefully the Knights can turn him around.

2021-11-30T23:38:03+00:00

Randy

Roar Rookie


which is why these types of champion players don't necessarily make the best mentors, because they've never had to be mentored themselves. Someone like Johns who everything came so easy to him might struggle to get the best out of a mid level skilled half has to work so hard on the technical aspects.

2021-11-30T21:34:01+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


“nose coffee” - I nearly made nose coffee of my own reading that phrase. Never heard it before but I’ll be shamelessly pinching it :stoked: It would be good to see Taylor have to earn his keep and fight for a spot, regardless who he’s lining up for. Putting him on a million dollar deal after a handful of games was the worst thing that could have happened to him How he responds in the next 6-18 months probably determines the rest of his career

2021-11-30T20:39:54+00:00

Forty Twenty

Roar Rookie


If there is any mentor out there who can demonstrate that he can turn anyone into the next champion half, he is the most valuable person in the game and worth millions. Andrew Johns himself has been to many clubs to mentor halves but the change in these players is minimal or nonexistent. I'm not having a go at mentors, but just looking at the evidence. Who else did Alan Bell mentor? Croft at the Storm and then the Broncos under Langer , got all the mentoring you could ask for and now Flanagan is under Barrett after being under the Chooks system with all their resources. The Storm are the best at getting the best out of players but a lot of that is selecting those with the potential. DCE arrived at Manly as the finished product but that was a long time ago and where is the next great half coming from his mentors?

AUTHOR

2021-11-30T13:35:37+00:00

Hairy

Roar Rookie


This is why I think I Clune could be a boon for them. Could show Taylor the what it takes and the knights can start very cheap.

2021-11-30T11:43:58+00:00

Pommy Chris

Roar Rookie


Not sure I agree with the point about mentoring here. Both Matty and Joey credit a lot of their technical and tactical development to a coach called Alan Bell who apparently used to spend hours with them on video work and ball skills.

AUTHOR

2021-11-30T10:35:33+00:00

Hairy

Roar Rookie


Good points. The players you mentioned were also surrounded by some pretty handy other players though, not sure Taylor and even Brooks have had that.

AUTHOR

2021-11-30T10:33:47+00:00

Hairy

Roar Rookie


I would agree with you how he played lately. I think he has showed a bit more than Clifford has though. Both are more halfbacks than modern 5/8s. Both Taylor and Brooks' defense was awful, but doubt Johns can help either with that. Think Taylor has more upside and untapped potential than Brooks.

AUTHOR

2021-11-30T10:26:47+00:00

Hairy

Roar Rookie


Everyone in the game always says how well he knows the game as a halfback and the incite he has, so year, wouldn't be a bad thing. Also why I reckon someone like Clune could help get the best out of Taylor or Brooks.

AUTHOR

2021-11-30T10:24:25+00:00

Hairy

Roar Rookie


if he got a full time contract offer, I am sure he could get out of the train and trial. I do agree with Clune though, just think Taylor has more upside.

2021-11-30T09:48:05+00:00

Adam Bagnall

Roar Guru


Taylor is on a train and trial deal with the Warriors I don't think he'll be joining the Knights anytime soon. Clune is a decent player and should have played ahead of Norman this season

2021-11-30T03:50:30+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


Why do we think Andrew Johns is the obvious answer? He's just an infinitely more talented Taylor. How can he say "hey knuckle down and do the right thing" to Ash when he never had to? I'm not sure he'd have faintest clue of what it's like to play football as Luke Brooks. Brooks has experienced more adversity against weaker sides in an origin period than Johns had in his career. I get he can teach very specific skills like certain kicks. But Johns was a natural otherworldly talent. I can't think of a worse guy to be my half back whisperer.

2021-11-30T02:44:43+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


Hi Hairy, Good points about Taylor's stalled development. He'd definitely be worth a shot for Newcastle. I had him at about the same level of Clifford last season - i.e. near the bottom among NRL halves. Taylor's defence and running game were abysmal, but there's some evidence that he uses the ball well. There's something there for Joey to work with.

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