Messy Super Rugby breakdowns could really hurt the Wallabies and All Blacks in July

By Brett McKay / Expert

Way back in March, after Round 4 had been played in fact, leading New Zealand referee Ben O’Keeffe appeared on The Breakdown alongside Jeff Wilson and Sir John Kirwan on Sky Sport in NZ.

As a complete aside, it’s fantastic to have referees making these kinds of occasional appearances and there should be more of them, everywhere.

O’Keeffe made a series of really insightful and interesting comments on a number of topics, but the headlines and viral video clips came from his comments about the difference between the way the breakdown is played and refereed between the northern and southern hemisphere competitions over the last 12-18 months.

The clip of O’Keeffe’s comments even featured here on The Roar for several days. 

And I’ve even had a one-minute clip of the audio set aside and ready to use on The Roar Rugby Podcast, but we’ve just not got there for no particular reason. Obviously, my co-host would be at fault.

“I think you’ve seen in the first few rounds of Super Rugby this year, they are slow,” O’Keeffe said, regarding the speed of the breakdown in the opening rounds.

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And to be frank, the speed hasn’t improved at all as the season has continued. Watching the Brumbies-Blues game at close range on Saturday night, it was hard to think it hadn’t got worse.

“The game is slow, we are not getting that quick ball we’ve had over the last few years,” O’Keeffe continued.

“Six Nations, when I refereed it last year, it was slow. This year it’s fast. It’s no surprise that we saw Ireland and France play like they did in November.

“It’s our responsibility as referees to get that player rolling out, so that the players are trusting the referee that they will get that roll, and they’re coming in high (on the cleanout) and getting quick ball out.

“There is that balance that the referee has got to do their job too, and when it happens, it’s a fast game.”

In response, Kirwan asked a simple and equally valid question: “Is that a coached thing?”

“Yeah, look, I think it’s two ways,” O’Keeffe replied.

“You’ve got to be coached to be accurate during the week, to hit rucks upright so that you are driving and not diving.

“Because it shouldn’t be our responsibility [to enforce accuracy in the cleanout] – because we will do it on Saturday, we will have to penalise it. There has been a lot of penalties for ‘off feet’ in Super Rugby this year.

“But people don’t want to see us (doing that). That’s the time you get coached to do it. So, actually learn it during the week, and if you’re penalised on the weekend, it’s because you got it wrong, rather than that’s the only time it happens and you get penalised.”

All these comments from someone who has to deal with the breakdown intimately on a weekly basis came flooding back me on Saturday night.

Because it was noticeable that the Brumbies were indeed preferring to stay on the feet and clean through the ruck, rather than just dive into bodies. And it was noticeable because it worked; from their first possession near halfway toward the end of the first minute, the Brumbies were inside the Blues’ 22 in five phases.

They played another five phases before Tom Wright was bundled into touch, but they regained the ball with a lineout steel from Darcy Swain. As they neared the posts in the run-up to Pete Samu’s try in the third minute, you could again see players trying to stay on their feet and drive through the ruck to clear the ball quicker.

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Post-match, a number of senior Brumbies players confirmed it was something they were trying to bring into their game, because the benefits are plainly clear. And in fairness, they may have done it last week as well, but such was their horror error rate against the Crusaders that anything they were doing well was quickly overlooked.

And even in this game, with only 30 per cent of possession for the match, it wasn’t something they did a lot. And they certainly didn’t do it all the time, witnessed by the number of penalties they conceded for going off their feet.

But it’s interesting they’re trying it and I expect more teams will follow suit soon enough, because the rest of the rugby world saw that penny drop when World Rugby first handed down their new breakdown directives years ago.

Remember how there was a flood of ruck penalties and we in Super Rugby all typically blew up about referees ruining the game, and Australia and New Zealand were crafting their own competitions to edge their way forward after the first strike of the pandemic, and so ‘local interpretations’ of the directives were employed and the penalties dried up down our way?

Well, in the north, they kept blowing penalties and players and teams adjusted the end result was an engrossing Six Nations tournament and far more watchable rugby being produced in the Europeans’ cups and the Premiership and even the United Rugby Championship seemingly on a weekly basis.

Meanwhile, in Super Rugby, we’ve now got what both teams played and the officials allowed to be played in Canberra on Saturday night as just the most recent example of the terrible mess the breakdown has become.

Exactly a year ago this week, Roar regular and amateur analyst of note, Highlander, observed “the Six Nations went from unwatchable to entertaining in a single year as first France and then Ireland, Wales and Scotland recognised the upside opportunities of ball movement under the new officiating.” 

“We now have coaches in France and England using catch phrases like LQB (lightning quick ball) and KBA (keep ball alive). Surely that can only be a good thing for the sport, as opposed to past associated acronyms of PAG (pick and go) and TSW (try to stay awake),” he wrote, as scathing as it was accurate.

“And the issues of the late arriving inaccurate clean outs? They are not gone but massively improved in short order, because the associations and the referees did not relent. Players learn quickly when the downside is losing.”

Highlander’s assertions last May were more targeted toward the struggles of the Australian teams in the opening weeks of Super Rugby trans-Tasman last year, but as O’Keeffe noted earlier this year, the breakdown is now slow across all of Super Rugby in 2022.

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Seeing what the Brumbies were trying to do on Saturday night and remembering O’Keeffe’s comments from March and further recalling that England and Ireland were heading our way in July quickly left me with an impending sense of dread.

That both the Wallabies and All Blacks are going to have to make significant and quick adjustments to how they approach the breakdown, lest they be stuck with slow ball all night and/or be penalised off the park.

And that would surely only play in both England and Ireland’s hands.

When O’Keeffe made his observations back in March, I thought at the time this logical breakdown approach was going to be something that surely our teams would cotton onto and bring in over time this season. I was probably expecting ‘over time’ wouldn’t be another ten rounds.

And it will be interesting to see how many other teams try to move toward the more upright clean out, with the finals now very rapidly approaching, just as it will be equally interesting to see referees rewarding just the first arriving player, and not the second, third and sometimes the fourth; some of whom couldn’t find ‘the gate’ in an actual gate factory.

Certainly, it’s not the job of referees to coach the players during a game. But it is their job to uphold the laws.

And by properly upholding those laws – as they discovered in the north and quite quickly at that – the game in our part of the world might finally catch up with the rest of the world, and become greatly improved as a spectacle.

The Crowd Says:

2022-05-26T05:41:27+00:00

WEST

Roar Guru


I recall this topic came up after the NH tours.. as disappointing as they were. Ruck speed! The average ruck speed in Super Rugby Aotearoa in 2021 was 2.71 seconds.. pretty quick. But not that quick, compared to 1.6 or 2.1 of a lot of the NH teams, some rucks .06 seconds. That’s rapid and very high tempo ruck speed! Designed to exhaust and confuse their opponents. It ends up by being to fast for the opposition to know what you’re doing! Majority of these rucks are well under Super Rugby speed.

2022-05-26T00:42:12+00:00

AndyS

Guest


Those lessons still get taught at lower levels, of course :silly: https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-club-coach-rejects-foul-play-factor-ruck-injury https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-ear-almost-lost-in-horrific-stomping-incident/DTAGJRMP7L7WW3I77YN6YJBN5I/

2022-05-25T13:27:26+00:00

Bobby

Roar Rookie


Watched as many 6N rugby games season just gone and man believe when I say the tables have turned. Fans are fulling rugby stadiums to see these games unlike down under here. I dished NH rugby for yrs. But after the ABs 2 losses end of 2021 I found myself scribbling 6N game dates in 2022 calendar and wasn't disappointed

2022-05-25T12:57:52+00:00

Bobby

Roar Rookie


I have us (ABs) heading home after the QF after last yrs hidings from Ireland and France. And from what I've seen in Super Rugby nothing suggests I'll be wearing my supporters gear the following wk after QFs.

2022-05-25T08:21:25+00:00

carnivean

Roar Rookie


The reason, I think, that referees stop late arriving players rucking is that the contest is over. A single player coming in late is not going to affect a turnover. Instead that player is just there to be negative, to bump a player who can't move, to annoy, to try and get another second or 2 added to the clearance time. The referee is trying to speed up the play.

2022-05-24T22:31:11+00:00

fiwiboy7042

Roar Rookie


Well, it started by the players telling the ref "not to blow, sir, we'll take care of him"! Play didn't have to stop for a penalty and defending players learnt not to lie in the ruck the way I saw in the Brumbies game. :happy:

2022-05-24T21:07:07+00:00

Richie

Roar Rookie


Before the game the coach and the ref go together like ebony and ivory. By the end of the game it can often be like chalk and cheese.

2022-05-24T21:02:39+00:00

T Bradley

Roar Rookie


I agree scrum. I feel when there’s a messy breakdown and the ref feels a penalty is warranted but unsure which team offended, they tend to favour the attacking team. Power begets power

2022-05-24T19:07:12+00:00

Bobby

Roar Rookie


I think we'd all LIKE to see consistency of Ref's rulings between NH and SH refereeing. Might be a step too far methinks. Hopefully, within each game we do get consistency towards both teams. Am sure plenty of research will be done on the Ref's selected, their past interpretations and the teams will try to adjust to each Ref who's in charge. It could be the difference between winning and losing.

2022-05-24T18:28:39+00:00

Bluesfan


Yip and also game plan of teams like the Boks etc - which is to slow down the quick ball for teams like the Blues and AB's need to utilize. Slow that ball down and both teams become very average, very fast.

2022-05-24T17:06:27+00:00

Carlos the Argie

Roar Guru


O'Keefe in this week's breakdown spent some time discussing how Papali'i has been interacting with refs. It is worth watching. And it is an example of something I have been saying for a very long time. Coaches should TEACH captains how to interact with referees (or they should hire specialized coaches for this), and to learn the preferred behaviors of each ref. You prepare your team against the opposition and your captain to deal with each refs' personality.

2022-05-24T16:59:25+00:00

Carlos the Argie

Roar Guru


And don't forget, as an example at around 20 minutes, when Nic White went well INTO the ruck and kept pulling the ball out while pushing other players until he got it out. He was called the scrum half so he could do this? Really? That is hands in the ruck in ANY country! Ball has to be visible and nearly out for the scrum half....NOT in the middle of the pile.

2022-05-24T15:54:15+00:00

Just Nuisance

Roar Rookie


No surprise a New Zealander proposes that :happy:

2022-05-24T15:52:45+00:00

Just Nuisance

Roar Rookie


I liked your comment because it’s true . But it’s not the refs fault . They just regular men and women and they are having to deal with a nightmare of regulations . Yes a 165 page law book all under the scrutiny of millions , all in real time . Who wants to be a ref today ? Not me .

2022-05-24T14:01:44+00:00

TC

Roar Rookie


Brett that is my issue or problem with rugby..Penalties can be awarded at almost every ruck..When and where they choose to make these decisions are crucial..In my limited experience teams that travelled to SA had to be about 20 points better..To win by 3..NZ teams could often beat the odds..Our Aussie teams..Not so much

2022-05-24T13:55:23+00:00

TC

Roar Rookie


BF maybe the Brumbies have been studying the Crusaders game plan?

2022-05-24T13:51:03+00:00

TC

Roar Rookie


ATW..Depends on who the Water Boy Is :silly:

2022-05-24T11:47:34+00:00

Fox

Roar Guru


Interesting read Bret and yes I think the coming tours will be interesting to watch in the contact area. Though not touring obviously, France in particualar, have sped their game up considerably which has allowed them more time on the ball in attack. Equally, though I think the game has moved to being governed by the D and rush defense stiffling a lot of running rugby. It is defensive based game theses days IMO whereas not so long ago it was an attacking based game. So now sped at ruck is arguably nore important than it ever was as one way of countering the rush D is to get the ball in a series of fast phases until the resetting of the D becomes more and more difficult to acheive properly and then a gap opens. I wonder how many yellow cards we will see in tyhe international series? My guess is plenty and as perhaps you allude to and in favour of England and Ireland - we shall see I guess.

2022-05-24T10:21:18+00:00

James584

Roar Rookie


OMG Ken. A comb. Bet it annoyed you when those dastardly forwards messed up your hair!

2022-05-24T10:09:18+00:00

Ankle-tapped Waterboy

Roar Rookie


Hi Brett - actually, that wouldn't be a bad thing. It's better to learn now in 2022 than next year in 2023. The stupidity of Cheika and team ignoring the high tackle protocols in 2019 as though World Rugby wasn't serious about them still brings a wry smile. That's the time when there were chooks in the discussion, and they certainly came home to roost.

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