AFL NEWS: Noble hits back at 'untrue' rumours of woes at North, Lyon opens up on fallen Saint

By The Roar / Editor

North Melbourne coach David Noble has fronted the media to respond to allegations about the club’s recent off-field turmoil.

Three members of the club’s recruiting staff sensationally walked out during the week, leading to speculation the Kangaroos, who sit 17th on the AFL ladder with a 1-9 record, could also look to move Noble on should results not improve.

But speaking on Thursday morning at Arden St, Noble says reports of a fractured relationship between himself and the players are ‘substantially untrue’ – including one that he had been instructed by club hierarchy to apologise to players after a much-publicised spray earlier in the year.

“There have been substantially untrue stories that are being reported, mainly around relationships with players, relationships with coaches, being directed by the club to apologise,” he said.

“They are all untrue.”

Despite North’s horror start to 2022, Noble says he and the club understand that the process of rebuilding the club necessitates the current ‘difficult times’, and maintains he is the right man to turn things around.

“Our members and our fans understand I took this job on understanding there will be difficult times,” he said.

“I’m here for the long haul. I want our club to be successful and strong… I want to win more games, nothing clearer, and we plan to win games every week. But it’s where we are.”

Noble also addressed speculation over the future of number one draft pick Jason Horne-Francis, who has put off contract talks with the club and courted controversy for an unapproved trip home to Adelaide for Mother’s Day.

The coach denied reports a hamstring injury that ruled Horne-Francis out of the Kangaroos’ Round 9 clash with Adelaide was a cover for a club-imposed suspension for the trip.

“It’s not an unusual situation for a first-round player to not sign his contract… that is not an unusual circumstance. I’m sorry, but I don’t see that as an issue,” Noble said.

“He didn’t get into trouble, he wasn’t suspended. We sat down with him and said: there’s protocols because what happens if he’s drug tested and we don’t know his whereabouts [is] the club actually gets fined.”

Also addressing the media, Kangaroos CEO Ben Amarfio admitted that the club were ‘surprised’ by the resignation of recruiting manager Mark Finnigan, recruiting officer Ben Birthisel and head of player personnel Glenn Luff, but says the door is always open should any wish to return.

“Would we have liked to have kept him [Luff]? Yes we would and I made that clear to Glenn when we chatted,” Amarfio said.

“The door is open if Glenn wants to have some time, have a bit of a spell and come back, the door’s open, the job is there.

“Mark has been here for 17 years, he’s a fantastic North person, his whole family is full of fantastic North people. He received a great offer and he received some security that we couldn’t match.

“We don’t have that luxury to be offering fixed term, long-term contracts our staff. No one in this club has a fixed term, long-term contract, not me, not the coach.

“When you get an offer like that and you’ve done 17 years and done a great job, you’ve got to think of your family first.

“The same goes for Ben Birthisel. He’s been stood down, stood up, put on part-time. He’s studied in HR, gets a job in the HR field, he’s got permanency, he’s got security, he’s got a young family. It’s a no-brainer.”

The Roos’ poor recent form has seen the club come under heavy pressure throughout the season to date, with former champion Wayne Carey telling Triple M on Wednesday the club is ‘broken’.

“This is as low as this football club has been since I’ve known it,” Carey said.

“I don’t think they are being completely honest with themselves because you can’t improve until you actually acknowledge that we are broken.

“There is too much going on. You don’t have people just resigning for no reason.”

(Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

Lyon’s ‘difficult’ reaction to former Saint’s drug trafficking charge

Former St Kilda coach Ross Lyon says Sam Fisher was a ‘very special player’ during his time at the helm, after the Saint was charged with drug trafficking.

The 39-year old will face court in August after choosing to stay in custody rather than face a Melbourne Magistrates Court hearing earlier this month, having been charged with regularly trafficking illicit drugs from Melbourne to Perth.

Lyon said that Fisher’s situation is proof that more work needs to be done to prepare players for life after football while still in the AFL system.

“I want to talk about the prehab. You want to send them away in rude health… from my own experience, when you get to the end of your career and you haven’t worked, you start to stress,” he said on Nine’s Footy Classified.

“I really drove when we had the meetings that you need to earn, work part-time or learn and be enrolled. I remember the noise around that, the AFLPA and media noise going, ‘What’s he banging on about?’ Well, that was 10 years ago.”

Lyon also said that it is difficult to reconcile the Fisher he remembers with the current allegations, saying he was ‘never informed’ of any underlying issues of drug dependency.

“He was a very special player for me. I coached him from 2007 to 2011. He was never in the leadership group, but he was an All-Australian. He was a star,” Lyon said.

“He always trained and he always played and he caused no headaches for me, but beneath the surface clearly there was a lot going on… we’ll get to the illicit drugs policy with the AFL later on, but as a coach you don’t get any of that, it’s the club doctor only. I was never informed.

“To me, what did I see? An incredible athlete, a lovely person [with a] kind nature that trained and played and was a star of the club.”

Former Saints Sam Fisher (left) and Nick Riewoldt. (Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Media/Getty Images)

Danger on ice: Cats confirm Brownlow Medallist to miss until the bye

Geelong coach Chris Scott says the Cats won’t consider star veteran Patrick Dangerfield for selection for a number of weeks, with the 32-year old struggling with a number of injury issues.

Dangerfield suffered a calf injury and was subbed out of the Cats’ win over Port Adelaide last week, with the club opting to give the 2016 Brownlow Medallist time to fully recover rather than rushing him back.

“When I reflect over the last couple of years, we just haven’t had him firing towards the end of the season,” Scott said on Wednesday.

“Taking a bit of short-term pain to have him in the best shape possible at the end of the year, that may well cost us along the way.

“But in my opinion that is a better approach for us to take with him.

“Given there’s two games before the bye, we can use that extra week, which is probably more than he needs in reality.

“We think that is going to have him in the best shape to have a really good run at the last couple of months of the season.”

Dangerfield has thus far played through the pain throughout 2022, despite ailments including a corked calf; however, he has been well below his best.

Scott said the superstar’s availability will now be taken out of his own hands.

“That lack of explosiveness that we’re seeing is down to a series of really significant corks that probably should have kept him out for a couple of games – where he convinced us he can get through,” he said.

“So now we have put a line in the sand and said, we’re not going to accept that you can just get through, we want you to play when you can get back to your best.”

The Cats face Adelaide at GMHBA Stadium in Round 11, then have a crunch clash with the Western Bulldogs at home before their Round 13 bye.

The Crowd Says:

2022-05-29T20:47:28+00:00

Uber

Guest


Enough of the nanny state nonsense Lyon. Fisher is a grown man - he knew what he was doing. Sometimes in life you just have to man up.

2022-05-26T22:57:55+00:00

DingoGray

Roar Guru


Context is a marvellous thing..... In all the hoo huh about the three exists, no mention that two of them had moved onto new "positions"- like anyone getting a new job. Give Noble a chance. He turned what was an absolute basket case at Brisbane into a pretty useful and well run footy department. That didn't happen in 12 months. Took a good 3 years.

2022-05-26T11:40:13+00:00

Macca

Roar Rookie


We as in the team, not we as in you and I

2022-05-26T11:39:31+00:00

Macca

Roar Rookie


?

2022-05-26T11:36:04+00:00

Doc Disnick

Roar Guru


I don’t remember him. Could you be more specific?

2022-05-26T11:24:23+00:00

Birdman

Roar Rookie


Hawthorn picked up Mark Finnigan. Should I be worried? :silly:

2022-05-26T10:58:06+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


Dobber!

2022-05-26T10:50:54+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


...or not.

2022-05-26T10:24:38+00:00

ScottD

Roar Guru


I heard the CEO on TV today stating that the proposal for replacing the recruitment team (or some of them) went in front of the Board two weeks ago. So obviously this BS from reporters that the staff have all suddenly walked out is pure sensationalism. And as far as Noble is concerned, I also heard him state today that the media doesn't understand that coming into an underperforming club and having to turn around attitudes and develop and set high standards is extremely hard. I can speak from experience having had to turn around organisations and state that he is totally correct. There is only so much progress in that circumstance that you can make by being nice. At some point you have to slap a few people down or in the worst case rune them out. It isn't easy and sometimes its messy. I also note that some of the industry commentators are commentating because they aren't tough enough to be a coach. Those commentators who are former coaches are conspicuously absent from the criticism and won't participate in it because they know how hard it is.

2022-05-26T09:36:40+00:00

Bludger

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Hard to feel sorry for North. They were going the 'top up route' picking off high priced players from other clubs to snag a flag not too long ago. Their supporters were all too happy to wave wooden spoons at struggling clubs too. Suck it up North, you had your fun. Hope you don't end up as road kill.

2022-05-26T08:54:52+00:00

Timmuh

Roar Guru


And then the club would be not North Melbourne, which is the core of its identity. In essence you're saying the club would be better dead. There are a lot of issues, partly having three coaches in three years meant having three restarts on rebuilds. Each coach ash their own ideas and from the point North was at when Scott departed, it was getting close to a clean slate. Losing Tarrant really hurt this year, there still would not be a win on the board against a team not destroyed by covid but some of the losses may have been a few goals closer. The other defenders brought in to supplement and eventually replace him really are not working out. Walker is not AFL standard as anything more than injury reserve, Corr has gone backwards and refuses to leave his man to provide support (understandable when selection pressure is on in a team regularly getting smashed), McKay isn't there yet and the jury is out on whether he ever will be. Thomas is, at best, treading water. No big surprise with injuries at the end of last year and start of this year, that can knock a guy around a bit. And there simply isn't much talent. Did they cut too deep? Many of the people saying that were the ones saying they didn't cut deep enough at other points in the process. Frankly, losing the recruiters may be a good thing - though timing and apparent situation may have been better.

2022-05-26T06:53:22+00:00

Pope Paul VII

Roar Rookie


That's not the problem. The clean out took out too much good old experience. The axing of Brown was cheap and nasty. Passing up a mobile tall in Logan McDonald compounded that error.

2022-05-26T06:41:36+00:00

Pope Paul VII

Roar Rookie


Dunno about the jury but his recruitment may well be out there.

2022-05-26T06:08:17+00:00

Macca

Roar Rookie


Because players would be falling over themselves to play in Canberra or Tassie instead of at North. The Club has no debt and they got $7m from the sate govt back in 2020 to redevelop their facilities due to be completed this year. What exactly would be better for them in another locale?

2022-05-26T05:28:26+00:00

Gyfox

Roar Rookie


North’s problems stem from their decision to stay in North Melbourne & not relocate. Could have been Brisbane Roos, Canberra Kangaroos, Tassie Roos

2022-05-26T05:14:10+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


Jury still out there?

2022-05-26T04:37:19+00:00

Macca

Roar Rookie


I remember a coach we had who was a mountain of a man complaining he wasn't respected by the playing group, and some more senior players in particular, as he and the club were parting ways 1 game into his second season. The fact he missed a game (which we just lost) early in his first year becasue he slept funny and hurt his neck, refused to help recruit in the off season between his first and second seasons becuase it wasn't in his contract when he was the only person in the club with a contract and in his last game sat at full forward in the first quarter as we got smashed because he had a sore knee, was convinced to go into his natural position in the ruck in the second and we turned a 7 goal deficit into close to break even before he benched himself for the second half (not to mention that he cheated on his wife on a the football trip and then sulked for the remainder of the trip) could have possibly contributed to this lack of respect seemed lost on him.

2022-05-26T04:23:18+00:00

Pope Paul VII

Roar Rookie


Not forgetting CC-J Don.

2022-05-26T04:05:07+00:00

Doc Disnick

Roar Guru


David Noble is a classic example of demanding respect vs commanding respect. David is the former. He won't be at North come this time next year.

2022-05-26T03:22:12+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


We all knew NM was going to have to start again and that Noble was called in for that. The press get impatient, forgetting all context and social media hyenas just see a carcass so they pounce to make their own lives seem more tolerable. The thing to look for at North is the stage by stage improvement (which is already apparent). The two hyphens (LD-U and JH-F), Thomas, Simpkin, Scott, Larkey, Powell, Curtis, Phillips, Goater, Perez...are already showing talent. Playing together with some of the older players and then a few more top end drafts (or stars that they can trade in for high end picks), will see that improvement. They made errors. They should still have Ben Brown, they should have Logan McDonald, Shaun Atley had more years in him and would be important but there is plenty to work with. Just don't get bored because it is not happening overnight. It is, however, going to plan. Regarding those who have left, I'd believe David Noble over the media jackals every day of the week. They have left because of the reduced soft cap. The AFL's management is causing mis-management. It will cost more than it saves.

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