Manu-look approach: Time right for Joey to move into Roosters halves permanently

By Mike Meehall Wood / Editor

If you spend of a lot of time listening to Trent Robinson’s press conference, you will have noticed a theme.

For the first few weeks of the season, he talked about the spine as essentially a work in progress, not a week-to-week basis but exclusively on a month-to-month.

In Round 1, after losing to Newcastle, Robbo mentioned his team had not trialled most of their star players, and said it showed.

After their Round 3 defeat to Souths, he said his team ‘just couldn’t get it together’ in the halves ‘under new leaders’.

When they lost to the Bulldogs in Round 8, he told the media conference: “I know they’re working really hard and they’re sort of going ‘why isn’t this coming together?’ and that’s on the coach. The job is to put it together.”

Far be it from me to criticise Robinson, who has forgotten more about coaching footy than I will ever know, but the results would suggest his team continue not to get it together.

This Friday night in Penrith, we’ll get the first major change of strategy as Joseph Manu moves to five eighth to deputise for Luke Keary, with regular stand-in Drew Hutchison shunted back to the bench.

“It’s important for him to impact the game in his style and as much as possible, and that’s our role as well.

“Obviously with Luke out, Drew has played a role for us most of the year, but we want to get those guys touching the ball as much as possible.

Luke Keary. (Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

“He went to five-eighth against Melbourne and had a really good impact. He’s played there before. We thought, ‘let’s get him out there.’

“We always try to put a guy in a place, but Joey will find a way to play footy, whichever position you put him in.”

Manu is faced with an unenviable task in taking on the premiers in their own backyard, but he presents a potential solution to the ongoing halves issues that Robinson faces.

He might have found his way into the No.6 jersey thanks to the unfortunate concussion problems Keary is going through, but as ever with these things, necessity can be the mother of invention.

It’s hard to remember how the Roosters set out to win this year, because they’ve been smashed so badly by injuries.

The initial plan was clearly to run the attack through Victor Radley, with his numbers in the key metrics for a ball-playing lock being right up there with Cameron Murray and Jake Trbojevic, which would have allowed Keary and Sam Walker to be stationed further out wide and more suited their strengths.

Radley would play as a link between wider halves, who were given licence to join up on both sides and create.

It also gave license for Hutchison, deputising Verrills at 9, to use his excellent long pass to get wide of the ruck, and for Connor Watson, with his running game, to change the tempo from the bench.

One recalls a try that Keary laid on for Nat Butcher late in the win over Manly in Round 2 that saw Hutchison feed Walker wide, who got it wider still to Keary, with Butcher taking a crash line enabled by Radley running support out the back. The plan worked to a tee.

The last time that Keary, Walker, Verrills and Radley all started together was in their demolition of the Titans in Round 9.

We’re now in Round 16, almost half a season later. Not many spines would survive losing their best choice 9 and 13 for extended periods, and indeed, the Roosters haven’t: they’re 2-4 since then.

Now, with Keary out and likely out for a while, Robinson has made his move, and his words about getting the footy in his star centre’s hands more often certainly have a lot of sense in them.

Manu is, clearly, one of the best centres in the comp. I could dig stats out but I don’t think we need to.

He’s also one of the best fullbacks in the comp, but surplus to requirements in that position given that James Tedesco exists.

Joseph Manu scores a try. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

This will only be his second game ever in the halves, but he has such a huge potential. One of the knock-on effects will be Walker moving to halfback, which will bring much-needed clarity to the role.

Neither Walker nor Keary is a pure halfback, or indeed, a pure five-eighth, and while Keary has done the bulk of the traditional 7 role, I’m not sure he’s better at it than his younger counterpart.

Keary has played almost all his career as a five eighth, save for this year, three games at the start of last year, and half of 2016 with Souths. His career win percentage as a 7, for what that is worth, is less than 50%, while at 6, it is closer to 65%.

Walker has split roughly 50/50 between five eighth and halfback, but was clearly told to take second fiddle to Keary where possible. He has fewer touches, does less of the kicking and triple the running of his partner.

The touches are emblematic. Keary averages 51, which is pretty much in the middle for a 7, with Walker on 35, Tedesco on 32 and Manu way down on 20.

That means Walker doesn’t really get the ball enough for a 6 – compared to other five eighths in the league, at least – while Tedesco gets it quite a lot for a fullback relative to his peers.

Manu gets it, on average, about as much as a regular centre and one would hope, given the exceptional talent, that he had an above-average share, because almost all Roosters attack should really focus on him and Tedesco.

When Manu gets the footy, he’s obviously exceptional: his stats for tackle breaks, line break assists and line breaks for himself are all in the top 5% of the NRL. In terms of an efficiency player, he’s right up there with the very best in offensive production per touch.

(Photo by Jason McCawley/Getty Images)

In the admittedly small sample size of two games played at fullback – an Origin-affected loss to Canberra and New Zealand’s win last week over Tonga – his numbers were insane.

Off around 40 touches in each, he topped the metre charts (including his world record 404m), broke 17 tackles against the Raiders and generated offloads, line breaks, assists and more.

There’s been no evidence that Manu gets worse the more that he touches the ball, and indeed, some evidence that he gets better when asked to do more.

Prior to the start of the season, I thought that Robinson would actually empower his star centre to roam the field and find stuff for himself to do, especially in mid to good ball, but that hasn’t really been the case.

Indeed, he touches the ball about as often as whoever is playing centre on the other side of the field – and while, obviously, it is not good to have a massively imbalanced attack (just ask the Tigers or Bulldogs) there is some benefit to getting the ball in the hands of your most dangerous players.

Manu is a significant upgrade physically on Keary – again, obviously, given that the Kiwi is much taller and heavier – and that might help bolster the failing go forward, with the added carries, quick play the balls and offloads available in a run-first, big bodied 6.

If Walker can do his part of the bargain, which is taking up Keary’s slack in organisation and kicking, then the Roosters might solve their big issue. It might not happen against Penrith, but it might help the Chooks no end going into the race for finals footy.

The Crowd Says:

2022-07-01T09:49:31+00:00

JennyFromPenny

Guest


The big plus I see for Manu @ no.6 is that he likes to run the ball, take on the line. The big minus I see is that he really doesn't like to pass the ball. Both he and Tedesco so often fail to see anyone around them in a better position than themselves. Either that, or they have made up their minds they were never going to pass regardless. Both great players, but both would have been called selfish little hogs by the other parents from u6's onwards. Test for the Roosters is how the rest of the team handle the lack of ball sharing.

2022-07-01T06:21:41+00:00

kk

Roar Pro


Muzz, Burton to Bondi may also be on Nick's List. But I hope not.

2022-07-01T05:56:27+00:00

Adz Sportz

Roar Guru


Best centre in the world, IMO. But I also think centre is his third-best position. His skillset is often wasted at centre... one can only wonder what he could have achieved if he went to another club to play fullback or five-eighth.

2022-07-01T05:44:47+00:00

Malo

Guest


Yeah Keary is yesterday’s news. Yeah Walker at7 and Manu at 6

2022-07-01T05:09:49+00:00

Clint

Roar Rookie


I remember someone saying Teddy played some 5/8 in juniors?

2022-07-01T03:50:04+00:00

Muzz

Guest


Roosters potential spine 2024/25 1 Tedesco 6 Munster 7 Walker 9 The Cheese 1 Manu 6 Munster 7 Walker 9 The Cheese

2022-07-01T03:45:06+00:00

Panthers

Guest


They usually just buy several more players who play in the one position during the season. To try & overcome a positional weakness. Did it the last time that they lacked a halfback, with a half buying spree! After the Melbourne game against Manly , with only 4 days rest after the rep weekend. Penrith should have been watching & try to be up for this tough game after the 5 days. As so many of the Panthers had to play last weekend.

2022-07-01T03:27:13+00:00

Big Daddy

Roar Rookie


Weakening one position to strengthen another and as someone said he's up against Luai so not an easy task . Didn't they just let a young half go to the warriors . I'm sure they'll be buying someone off-season to compensate .

2022-07-01T03:04:29+00:00

Bonza

Roar Rookie


Very similar to Wighton in that regard. Nothing wrong with a big skillful 5/8 - oppositions won't like it. As for the centres, Suaalii would slot right in. What happened with Billy Smith? And as a Sharks fan, why do I care?

2022-07-01T02:17:34+00:00

TJ

Guest


Penrith are the last team you want to be trialing new combinations against but I'm interested to see how it goes. I think Manu will hold his own but Momirovski back in the side is worrying. He's been pretty dissapointing so far this year but maybe the move back to his usual spot on the right could see him improve?

2022-07-01T01:56:37+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


My first thought was is teddy better as the 6? I think if hutch plays some lock you'll have kicking options.

2022-07-01T01:55:13+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


I think Walker's play forced their hand to atleast try and make it work I doubt robbo thought he'd be a regular first grader right now. Given the lack of a genuine 9 this year was probably as much about figuring out how to maximise next year. Unfortunately it's looking like Keary is going to be in a tough spot health wise going forward.

2022-07-01T01:16:31+00:00

Albo

Roar Rookie


Yep ! It will be interesting to see how he goes at 6 tonight. He will be up against one of NSW halves, if not switching about to deal with both of them . Whilst he is a great running centre and fullback ( in the vein of Teddy) , I'm not sure he will have the same room to move at 6 especially against one of the best defences in the NRL. And further to that, he hasn't really shown that he has a kicking game or a passing game ( apart from the late flick to the winger) ? We will wait an see what tonight brings.

2022-07-01T01:09:12+00:00

kk

Roar Pro


Nat, He's taking elocution lessons in preparation for a return to centre stage.

2022-07-01T00:53:29+00:00

Dwanye

Roar Rookie


Hi the outsider. I have always thought that about the ‘two small halves’, I wasn’t thinking it’d work for Easts and wondered why they thought it would work, had a plan of other players gone wrong somewhere.

2022-07-01T00:48:11+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


Hmmm, sure, let me give input into how the roosters are run. First thing first - where is Seibold these days… :silly:

2022-07-01T00:21:25+00:00

kk

Roar Pro


If available, Nick and Robbo should engage you as a special consultant with meetings every fortnight to suit your schedule.

2022-07-01T00:11:29+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


I would agree that the time is nigh. He would essentially be an upgraded version of Wighton whereby he has a decent kicking game, very strong running game and the maturity when to know when to apply both. It is a luxury to have Tede out the back and some good finishers but Manu is now a leader in every sense so he should be on the ball more even if that weakens the centre position for a while. My only concern would be that neither he or Walker are game managers yet and the last thing you would want is to blunt Walker for the sake of structures.

2022-06-30T23:39:53+00:00

MarkAC

Guest


Does Manu have a kicking game though? I'm wondering whether it will end up poorly like Staggs at 5/8 for Tonga recently. Why not keep these gun centres at centre but give them license to roam freely like Turbo and Latrell have done for the Blues, or arguably what Manu already does for the Roosters. Seems like there is an obsession with moving big-name centres to the spine where we think they can dominate even more, but it ends up falling a bit flat. In saying that, Manu at fullback makes more sense to me than at 5/8 but there's no way that is happening while Tedesco is there.

2022-06-30T23:07:57+00:00

Seymour Richards

Guest


Manu's stat's from the NZ v Tonga game are like a fishing tale , they get bigger each time ya hear it.

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