'It's not his go': Good bloke or not, judiciary must judge every case on its merits

By Danielle Smith / Editor

If I hear one more rugby league commentator say, “I don’t think he meant to do that” or “he’s not that type of player” I think I’m going to scream.

When it comes to NRL ‘clean skins’ (that in itself is a terrible term) getting penalised or suspended, some out in the public eye have fallen into a bad habit of trying to connect the type of person the player is with the punishment.

Believing that because the player is someone who doesn’t usually get into trouble or due to the fact they are one of the bigger names of the game, that those traits should reflect the sentence.

I have news for those people, and it’s all bad.

It shouldn’t matter if the player is a nice guy, a superstar, bought his parents a house, or has good table manners – if you do something wrong you should be correctly punished for it. But there are still some that believe the perpetrator should be judged on who he is rather than what he did.

There has obviously been a lot of talk this week regarding Penrith’s Nathan Cleary. The Panthers halfback was marched during his side’s loss against the Eels last week for his horrible spear tackle on Dylan Brown.

Thankfully for everyone Brown got up and walked away after the incident, and Cleary took the early guilty plea of a five-week suspension.

Many believed that the send-off was correct, and the length of the ban was spot on. But there were others that expressed how out of character the tackle was for him, and that it should have been a much lesser sentence because of who it was.

It started the moment the referee pointed to the sheds.

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One journalist agreed with the marching orders but had to tweet about the kind of person Cleary is as well as his assumed intention on the tackle as well.

“Great player, clean player, unintentional … but Cleary had to go.”

Just say “right call, Cleary had to go.” It has nothing to do with his status in the game.

After Cleary’s time on the sideline was confirmed, the arguments began flowing for why players of his calibre shouldn’t receive those kinds of penalties.

Channel Nine commentator Billy Slater asked on his Billy’s Breakdown segment “Do we need to be wiping our best players out of the competition for a quarter of the season for one mistake that they make?”

Um, yes. Yes we do. If they do something that warrants missing a quarter of the season, then absolutely.

Phil Gould also jumped onto the Cleary Defence Train. “I don’t think we need good players out of the game for six weeks to remind them that that’s not what you do,” he explained on 100% Footy on Monday night.

“That’s just an error of judgement. I know this Penrith tackling technique very well, he’s probably thinking his other two players would support that player a little better than they did. They pulled away from it and he found himself in an awkward position.

“Does Nathan Cleary need six weeks away from the game to learn his lesson that that’s the wrong tackle to make? He knew it six seconds after he did it that it was wrong.

That’s wonderful, I’m glad he realised the error of his ways so quickly. Hopefully that – along with his correctly awarded five-week suspension – help ensure that he doesn’t do it again.

Dragons forward Aaron Woods was criticised for his comments on Cleary being given preferential treatment when he said on Triple M during the week that being “a good bloke” doesn’t equate with getting a lesser charge.

“Just because he comes out on Instagram and says ‘Oh, I’m sorry, it was totally out of character’, that’s what happens on a rugby league field. Things can go one way or another. I just think everybody should be treated the same way. I’m not having a go at Nathan Cleary, I’m just saying, just because he’s a good bloke doesn’t mean he should be getting off with a lesser charge.”

Now, before the Penrith faithful come at me for having a go at their King, I promise you I’m not. Cleary knew what he did was wrong, didn’t argue with the referee, apologised in private and on social media and then accepted his ban gracefully.

My gripe is with the narrative that gets immediately injected into the world that the penalty should reflect the players personality type or playing ability as opposed to what the offence was.

Rugby league players make mistakes on the field. They happen every game. We actually count them and compile them into spreadsheets and use them as statistics.

The type of mistake has its own repercussion – a set restart, a hand over, a scrum, a penalty, time in the sheds or a stint on the sideline. It shouldn’t matter who does what; the action and the action alone is all that is needed to marry up to the corresponding consequence.

We need to stop bringing intent, the apparent personality type or talent of the player into the conversation when it comes to penalties and punishments.

Put it this way, players don’t set out to knock on during a game, but they do. Could you imagine if the referee gave them the ball back and said, “it’s ok, have another go, you obviously didn’t mean to do that, and you seem like a really nice guy”?

Nope, me either.

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The Crowd Says:

2022-08-06T21:49:21+00:00

Kent Dorfman

Roar Rookie


reminds me of Roger Ramjet

2022-08-06T00:47:31+00:00

Chris

Guest


Well the forwards at the Storm & Roosters , must be really ‘Great Blokes’! As they walk away from dangerous hits all the time . They can knock other players teeth out & it’s still Fine! Carrigan must be a good bloke too. As his suspension could have been longer.

2022-08-05T11:45:46+00:00

Adam

Roar Guru


Bluey is wonderful tv. No idea what you're on...

2022-08-05T10:46:25+00:00

andyfnq

Roar Rookie


Felt like I was taking crazy pills when I first heard it :shocked: :angry:

2022-08-05T08:33:01+00:00

up in the north

Roar Rookie


At the time of the Cleary lifting tackle I said out loud that there was no "malice" in the tackle, but his two teamates did pull out of the group tackle Cleary became the dominant defender and the Parra player went a over t. I have no idea exactly which drum Billy was banging about, but I agree with the view that a players stature doesn't influence a penalty for foul play. Last weekend offered up plenty of chestnuts. We had NAS breaking the teeth of a prone, flat on the ground man by way of a meaty forearm to the face which resulted in monetary fine for the fourth time this year and zero time on the sideline. We were treated to the sight of Pat Carrigan snapping the lower leg of a man immobilised in a vertical position by two defenders and in the spirit of getting him on his back thought it was okay to do what he did, consequently only getting a handful of weeks suspension, yet the victim of the assault may have a career ending injury. The NRL have to decide whether or not to consistently police the rules already in place.

2022-08-05T07:55:47+00:00

Big Daddy

Roar Rookie


How quickly we forget other incidents and if everyone remembers Mitchell on Manu last year . Fittler and John's and Gould were say he shouldn't have been suspended as it was accidental but the judiciary thought otherwise yet the NRL still made a decision to reduce his suspension by 1 match . I've got no problem with Cleary and Carrigan getting what they got and both players have copped it pretty sweetly . It seems the commentators are the ones not handling it but the NRL seem to be okay with it ch 9 don't bother because it gets them more publicity.

2022-08-05T07:40:31+00:00

Red Rob

Roar Rookie


yes but those people ever have progressive/reasonable views? I figure it's preaching to the choir.

2022-08-05T07:19:06+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


There is certainly something around his shoulders that Freddy didn't like.

2022-08-05T07:15:10+00:00

Statler and Waldorf

Roar Guru


Settle down :laughing: :laughing:

2022-08-05T06:10:52+00:00

Adam

Roar Guru


Yeah when the guy that did it and his pappa take it on their chiselled chin you know the charge was fair. So I'm not sure why we need the Gus' and the Slater's (disappointingly) getting around him and talking about the superstars and their wonderfulness. There's one thing that's sure about League. There's been greats before and there'll be many more greats to come. So we shouldn't race to the bottom making exceptions when suspension time comes around. (don't get me started on the, you can't get suspended from an Origin match unless you insult V'Landys tie).

2022-08-05T06:05:35+00:00

Adam

Roar Guru


Hilarious saying. Not sure I can use that term in the office though...

2022-08-05T06:04:16+00:00

Adam

Roar Guru


Is it the long hair?

2022-08-05T06:03:34+00:00

Adam

Roar Guru


I haven't seen it. But that's really, really disappointing. Slater has been really good in commentary and I thought he was one of the few diamonds in the rough. Perhaps someone there at 9 has got in his ear...Just like Sia Soliola got into his ear in the past...

2022-08-05T06:01:29+00:00

Adam

Roar Guru


But his chin is so strong!

2022-08-05T06:00:45+00:00

Adam

Roar Guru


I was at that grand final. Could hear the crunch from the very top!

2022-08-05T05:59:50+00:00

Adam

Roar Guru


It certainly makes me turn off. I just can't stand it at the moment. I missed last night's game and might just miss tonights as well. I might even talk to my wife!

2022-08-05T05:57:14+00:00

Adam

Roar Guru


The problem is that plenty of guys and girls do listen to them and genuinely pine for the good ole days.

2022-08-05T05:54:33+00:00

DavMan

Roar Rookie


Nice.

2022-08-05T05:53:07+00:00

Adam

Roar Guru


Actually they did complain about the Lawton tackle being a send off as well. So, they're consistent I suppose in their not-his-go-ness

2022-08-05T03:44:17+00:00

Red Rob

Roar Rookie


Reminds me a song: Fitler, he only had one ball, Brandy, had two but very small ...

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