WILL GENIA: 'Killing the game' - why I can't watch live rugby, surprising Pete Samu trait, backing Dave for RWC

By Will Genia / Expert

Rugby fans are right to be concerned with the direction the Wallabies are heading under Dave Rennie. I happen to think he’s on the right track.

He has been hampered by injuries to key world class players in key positions but for me it’s more than that.

People might think I’m crazy saying this, but I like the way that they’re playing the game.

There are glimpses and moments in there where if they can build on them and find consistency, not only within games, but in backing things up, I genuinely think that they can build nicely into the World Cup.

That might sound stupid to a lot of people, I’m happy to admit that, but I like how he sees the game and how he wants to play the game.

Other teams who are playing well, like Ireland and New Zealand, play with a lot of structure and a lot of detail and within that they add some nice variety.

Having spoken to a lot of players within that Wallabies setup, I think it’s a good game style that they’re trying to master and get their heads around.

We’ve seen games where they’ve played exceptionally well and where they’ve put it all together and have created opportunities. Even in games we’ve lost – the England series for example – we created so many opportunities off the back of really, really good play. We’ve just got to be able to take advantage of it and finish them.

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I’m not sure why there is so much inconsistency but I like what I’m seeing and hopefully the key players that come back – Quade Cooper, Samu Kerevi and Michael Hooper  – can make a difference to building that consistency.

As Dave has acknowledged, discipline is a problem for them at the moment. And as he said after the Bledisloe Cup match, may selection is the answer to that.

I remember one season when I was at the Reds, we were having discipline issues with giving away far too many penalties. Our coach, Ewen McKenzie, printed out a sheet and would post it on the wall outside the team room every week.

It was a list of penalties that we each individually given away and it was colour coded. Green was a referee’s decision that we can take either way, yellow was where you might be in the wrong. Red was the individual’s responsibility – a poor play that gave away a cheap penalty. If you got to a certain number of penalties, you wouldn’t get picked. Each player had to be accountable to his teammates.

No one wanted to let their teammates down, so it helped us tidy up that area of our game.

Inconsistency is a tougher issue to solve and was a big problem during The Rugby Championship.

That was a problem when I was playing for Australia as well. We’d play well one week and poorly the next and we were never able to back it up.

Looking for positives, Pete Samu has been brilliant the last couple of weeks.

From an athletic perspective, he’s such a specimen. He’s a big body, strong in the carry, strong in defence, with a great ability to be able to get over the ball and pilfer. That’s  a strength I wasn’t aware he had. He’s actually elite at it.

I like his dynamic ability in the carry which creates so many opportunities with either line breaks or half breaks or the offload.

He had been starting to be pigeon holed as a bench player, and while he would have been happy to play his role for the team, everybody wants to start and you can see that he’s taking his opportunity with two hands.

There was a huge void left by Michael Hooper not playing but he’s really stepped up. Fraser McReight was good for a couple of games but Pete’s taken it to another level.

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There are going to be questions around whether Hoops does come straight back in because of how good Pete has been, but more so because of how good the balance of the back row is with him at No.7.

I think size matters more than ever at Test level. You need those big bodies to be able to win the collisions and then give you the opportunity to play off the front foot.

If I’m picking a team that’s going straight into the Spring Tour now I’m thinking Pete Samu at No.7.

One player who needs to take the next step is Jordan Petaia.

I’ve always thought he has the potential to be an absolute superstar in the game. But I think a lot of his opportunities are still getting given to him on the back of potential.

I’d love to see him fulfill that potential. I don’t know whether it’s a confidence thing, but he needs to start grasping his opportunities. He got given a good one on the weekend with Lalakai Foketi coming off with injury and he didn’t perform as well as he would have liked.

You can see glimpses of that superstar potential there. But Dave’s the type of coach, and James O’Connor found this out, that if you’re not taking opportunities and not playing well, he’s happy to just not pick you.

Hate the TMO

Another thing Dave said after the loss in Auckland has resonated with me: “The game takes forever to play because of TMO chipping in as well. It’s messy isn’t it? It’s not a great product.”

I’ve got a confession to make. I very rarely watch a game live anymore because of the impact the TMO is having on the sport.

That is the honest to God truth. I hate the stoppages. I watch rugby league games live because there’s so much more ball in play and there are fewer stoppages and it’s just a nice free-flowing game from that perspective.

The voices rising against TMO intervention are getting louder and louder, and I have thought this for a long time – the TMO has far too much of an influence on the game.

It’s disrupting the whole momentum of professional rugby – not only for the guys playing but for the people watching.

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From an entertainment perspective and the product itself, I honestly feel like it’s killing the game.

Why not just have the TMO referee the game now and have someone with an earpiece out there on the field? 

The decision with Mathieu Raynal and Bernard Foley I liked, because we saw a referee with the courage to referee the game out on the field.

We must start allowing the referees to have more discretion in terms of their interpretation.

Human beings are all different. We all see and perceive the world in different ways and understand things differently. So obviously, referees are going to interpret things differently in terms of their decision-making.

We’ve just got to live with it – the good and bad of the game.

I would much rather play in a game where referees make poor decisions but there’s good flow and fewer stoppages, and I’d rather watch one like that than have the TMO coming in all the time.

I hate watching games like that when they want to keep going back to check minor play. I hate it. I get it for foul play, malicious and dangerous play, but all these other innocuous incidents? Let the ref referee the game.

The strongest voices who are against it are people who understand it best – coaches and players. Anyone sitting at home can watch and be ‘oh, well I’d rather have the right decision’. But there’s got to be a feel for the game and that’s gone.

The Crowd Says:

2022-09-28T22:51:18+00:00

Old Rugby Fan

Roar Rookie


I know. This is despite Law 19 section 15 (f) which mandates a straight feed. The referees have taken over the Game. I feel sorry for the players.

2022-09-28T11:33:51+00:00

robel

Roar Pro


All I want from the refs and the TMO is consistency. If they blow the whistle or look at something 5 ways, make sure it is the same for both sides. At the moment it is not, it wrecks the game. Last w/e and the week before showed how inconsistently the game is reffed depending on the sides and between each game. I also will no longer watch a game live. Last w/e did it for me.

2022-09-28T10:41:35+00:00

Chancho

Roar Rookie


Oh, yes, I agree with that. The point that I was making was that you have the ref and the TMO being really pedantic on somethings, but I have never seen a 9 throw a ball into the scrum for the hookers to compete for.

2022-09-28T08:27:32+00:00

FrancisF

Roar Pro


I think he ran out of options for the #10 position. He tried different players and so far none delivered. 1. Quade Cooper delivered with his injury 2. Lolesio is still work in progress 3. Hodge at #10 is one-dimensional 4. O’Connor has just past his used-by-date Who is left ? I think he is looking for someone with the maturity and a potential skill set of Richie Mounga. The closest is Lolesio but he needs more playing time for experience. Wallabies’s #9 position is still umcertain for reliability, No fallback player eg like Aaron Smith for the big game. So far Pete Samu was a sudden discovery for #7 after being thought as a bench impact player at #8. For s while we thought McReight was the heir-apparent to Hooper. Even #15 is still uncertain except for the likelihood of Kellaway or the injured-prone Tom Banks . The forward positions are still a mixed bag. Looks like for Rennie, he could not get a settled team like the AllBlacks. The Wallabies is still very much a work-in-place at this late stafe even as it goes into the World Cup. I really doubt any other coach can do any better with what Rennie has on his hands. When you are given poor and inadequate ingredients, you can only come up with a make-do dish instead of a MasterChef cuisine. Rennie needs more tine to get to where he wants Wallabies to be. My guess it id only at around 45% and that why the Wallabies have more losses than wins.

2022-09-28T06:58:51+00:00

EastsFootyFan

Roar Guru


Heads up play has increased quite significantly since the introduction of the six again ruling for minor infringements, and frankly there's a growing number of very skilled intuitive footballers. Both the Roosters halves are basically "heads up footballers" As for counter attacking play, that is more prevalent in Union purely because of the dynamics of turnovers. That said, it's a lot less lately, as the referees just don't let the game flow enough to allow for it.

2022-09-28T05:09:06+00:00

Colin Fenwick

Roar Rookie


I'm not sure what you are getting at to be honest. I didn't see it live, but it seems Retallick thought the Slipper tackle wasn't legal, and suggested as such directly to him. The ref decided to reviewed and it was rightly classified as fine. No punishment. I think most people agree A Smith is rather vocal but he knows when to listen to the ref and shut up. Nic White may not yet have that amount of self control.

2022-09-28T03:07:57+00:00

dazell

Roar Rookie


Re Hodge that is a really good point and was really surprised he didn't leave him there.

2022-09-28T03:05:51+00:00

dazell

Roar Rookie


Yeah but based on results Rennie's method has not worked and he has started picking OLD guys like Foley???

2022-09-28T02:42:53+00:00

TiredOldGit

Roar Rookie


So when Retallick swore at everyone about slipper's perfectly legal tackle, that led to a 2 minute review of everything what should have happened to Retallick? What should have happened to the ref? If the ref reacts to a player having a childish whinge and then doesn't react to the sevu incident on slow mo replay - how are they reffing the game? It seems it's not about protecting the players anymore. Nic White is a whinger to everyone and Aaron Smith and Retallick are what exactly? It's no longer a sport thanks to the refs.

2022-09-28T02:31:35+00:00

Chris Mckay

Roar Rookie


Commentators - also making the game almost unwatchable. This is the D team of commentating. We should not have Kiwi's commentating for Australian games at all and the lead commentators pronunciation is cringe worthy.

2022-09-28T02:27:09+00:00

Chris Mckay

Roar Rookie


Will is totally entitled to his views but reality tells us we are not building at all and simply treading water ans going backwards in the rankings. We have ZERO chance at the RWC. We are unable to string together 2 games in a row. Discipline, lack of cohesive defence and attack and inability to effectively exit our 22 do not win game nor tournaments. This team is an utter shambles.

2022-09-28T01:26:53+00:00

EastsFootyFan

Roar Guru


The AFL manages without any form of yellow/red card system. The problem Rugby has is it hands them out so wildly inconsistently, which is a problem when they have the ability to completely kill a contest...

2022-09-28T01:19:05+00:00

EastsFootyFan

Roar Guru


The problem is they still miss so much, and so the incidents they do attack often appear to overly punish one side. The last Bledisloe was a great example - we saw two reckless head clashes by NZ defenders that have been given red cards in prior games that were just totally ignored because players didn't stay down. Fundamentally, the ruck makes Union a particularly chaotic sport and in truth you can find technical penalties for an absolute tonne of stuff, so if you seek perfection in officiating you spend the whole match stopping for penalties. We saw this with the RSAvARG match recently, where there were 39 penalties - pretty staggering given the game is only in play for an average of 30 mins in Union anyway.

2022-09-27T23:28:10+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


If you watch the first and last 10 mins of a league game I find you have seen 60, 1 out runs and 10 kicks at the end of a set. No imagination, no ball movement, no passing beyond a 1 out runner.

2022-09-27T23:26:20+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Yeah the game I started watching after watching the Bledisloe was slow and contained no skills. Its a game where they dumb down natural skills for some reason.

2022-09-27T23:25:02+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


And League is the least interesting and least followed of the two sports. League is the NFL of Australia. Actually, AFL is the NFL of Aus so league doesnt even have that. Watching all 3 sports, League is the least skillful too.

2022-09-27T23:19:39+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


You cannot stamp out what they are ruling as foul play tho. Most YCs arnt for deliberate foul play these days. If its deliberate its red but even the tip tackle in last weeks test wasnt done purposly ss its hard to stamp someting not deliberately done out of the game.

2022-09-27T23:06:15+00:00

bungeye

Roar Rookie


Yeah but the rest of the world doesn't know about Australia's apathy to Rugby. Travel overseas, people connect Australia with rugby. Australia needs to make it clear with the world, the wallabies do not define Australia

2022-09-27T22:41:06+00:00

Funny stuff

Guest


Another union person confirming they watch endless rugby league coverage. Haha

2022-09-27T12:59:20+00:00

Olly

Roar Rookie


People get angry from a missed knock on that cost them a game. But they turn up to the next game to get revenge on it. Proper foul play on the other hand being caught by the TMO then missed later in a game stops people watching.

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