'Dad doesn't want me to bloody play for Scotland!' - But Ex-Wallaby completes switch, Finn Russell snubbed

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His dad may not be too happy – but former Wallabies’ flanker Jack Dempsey has switched rugby nations and is now in line to make his Test debut for Scotland against Australia.

“I know my dad doesn’t want me to bloody play for Scotland!” the 14-times capped Wallabies’ flanker had laughed earlier this year – but the tough back rower has decided to take the plunge anyway with the Scots under new international eligibility rules.

Dempsey’s grandfather on his mum’s side emigrated to Australia from Scotland, and the 28-year-old, who’s not played for the Wallabies since the 2019 World Cup, had been wrestling for a while with the idea of swapping allegiances.

But the former Waratahs’ forward’s decision was only revealed on Wednesday when Dempsey was named in the Scotland squad for the autumn internationals, the first of which will be against Australia on October 29.

It means he could line up for his debut against his old team in the same fixture which he watched last year from the Murrayfield stands with a pint of Guinness in his hands. 

The Glasgow Warriors No.8, who moved to play in Scotland last year, last played for Australia on October 11, 2019 against Georgia in a World Cup group game.

So because he’s spent three years out of the international game, he’ll have served the necessary stand-down period stipulated in new World Rugby regulations and can transfer national allegiance because of a “a close and credible link via birthright” to the country to which he’s switching.

During the summer, Dempsey spoke to his family, and both Scottish and Australian rugby officials, about his future.

“I addressed the summer as a big thinking, brainstorming operation. I went back to my roots, my parents were over here, and I got to meet my extended family, the Scottish side,” Dempsey explained in an interview with the Scotsman in May.

“But I was also keeping an eye on both camps. There was the Argentina series and then Australia have been playing recently.

“Both teams have been playing promising rugby but in terms of my own situation I have pretty much made my mind up.”

Last year, when Gregor Townsend’s Scotland beat the Wallabies 15-13, Sydneysider Dempsey, who was named after the great American world heavyweight boxing champ, was an interested spectator.

“I went to the game and watched it live – sitting in the crowd having a few Guinnesses – and that was the first game I’d been to at Murrayfield when I wasn’t part of the squad,” explained Dempsey.

“My mum is obviously the one who’s on the Scottish side, so I’ll pick her brain about a few different things and what she’s thinking, because I know my dad doesn’t want me to bloody play for Scotland!” 

His form for the Warriors has been so impressive, he had been on the radar of Townsend for a while as the coach rings the changes for a potential new era for the Scots.

“Jack became available with the law change, he has played Test rugby before,” said Townsend.

“He has been outstanding for Glasgow ever since he arrived at Scotstoun and he has started this season in very good form. With him committing to us, it provides real competition to the back row. His way of playing fits in with how we want our team to play and our forwards in particular.”

Racing 92 flyhalf Finn Russell was left out of the squad for the year-end Tests, while Jamie Ritchie takes over the captaincy.

Russell was rested for Scotland’s tour of Argentina in July alongside several other players who had featured on the British and Irish Lions tour of South Africa the previous year.

But Russell’s hopes of a recall were dashed as he was absent from the squad announced by Scotland coach Gregor Townsend on Wednesday ahead of games against Australia, Fiji, New Zealand and Argentina in Edinburgh.

Russell was dropped for Blair Kinghorn in Scotland’s final Six Nations match in March after it emerged he was one of six players to have breached team protocol by going out drinking in Edinburgh after returning from their win in Italy the previous weekend.

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Then-skipper Stuart Hogg was among the group, all of whom have been selected for this squad with the exception of Russell and Sam Johnson, who suffered a broken jaw while playing for Glasgow at the weekend.

Hogg was also left out of the South America tour and has been replaced as captain by Ritchie, 28, who missed the Test series against Argentina through injury.

Townsend had said while naming his touring squad for South America that the breach of discipline after the Italy game had no bearing on his selection and the issue had been ironed out.

Russell had previously fallen out with Townsend following a similar breach of protocol ahead of the 2020 Six Nations, although the pair had repaired their relationship.

However, Townsend was adamant those issues played no part in his decision to snub Russell and replace Hogg as captain.

“It’s really to reward form and consistency,” he said. “For someone like Finn Russell, who has missed out on the squad and has played a lot of games for us in the past, it’s a challenge for him to show his form and consistency over the next few weeks.

“We have grown leadership over the past few years. Stuart has done a very good job as captain. We see this decision as bringing the best out in Stuart.

“As you can imagine, he cares so much about playing for Scotland and leading Scotland, he was disappointed. But he has got behind the team, got behind Jamie.”

Edinburgh’s Kinghorn, Adam Hastings of Gloucester and Glasgow’s Ross Thompson will battle for Russell’s No.10 role.

Scotland opens their year-end Tests campaign on October 29 against Australia, whom they beat 15-13 in Edinburgh last year.

The series will finish with a match against Argentina, with Scotland keen to avenge their 1-2 series loss in July.

Scotland squad
Forwards: Ewan Ashman (Sale), Josh Bayliss (Bath), Jamie Bhatti (Glasgow), Dave Cherry (Edinburgh), Andy Christie (Saracens), Luke Crosbie (Edinburgh), Scott Cummings (Glasgow), Jack Dempsey (Glasgow), Matt Fagerson (Glasgow), Zander Fagerson (Glasgow), Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh), Jonny Gray (Exeter), Richie Gray (Glasgow), Nick Haining (Edinburgh), WP Nel (Edinburgh), Jamie Ritchie (Edinburgh, captain), Pierre Schoeman (Edinburgh), Sam Skinner (Edinburgh), Rory Sutherland (Ulster), George Turner (Glasgow), Murphy Walker (Glasgow), Hamish Watson (Edinburgh).

Backs: Mark Bennett (Edinburgh), Darcy Graham (Edinburgh), Chris Harris (Gloucester), Adam Hastings (Gloucester), Stuart Hogg (Exeter), George Horne (Glasgow), Damien Hoyland (Edinburgh), Blair Kinghorn (Edinburgh), Stafford McDowall (Glasgow), Rufus McLean (Glasgow), Ali Price (Glasgow), Cameron Redpath (Bath), Ollie Smith (Glasgow), Kyle Steyn (Glasgow), Ross Thompson (Glasgow), Sione Tuipulotu (Glasgow), Duhan van der Merwe (Edinburgh), Ben White (London Irish).

The Crowd Says:

2022-10-21T11:25:35+00:00

Atlas

Roar Rookie


One more on eligibility - prop Oli Jager (27) named for the All Blacks XV. Born in London, played for Ireland Under 18s; moved to Christchurch after leaving school in 2013 when no place in the Leinster academy was offered to him, and he went on to play for Canterbury (from 2016) and the Crusaders (from 2017). If he plays v Ireland 'A' on 4 November then he's committed to a future in NZ rugby as the All Blacks XV is NZR’s 'next senior national representative team' after the All Blacks; the AB XV second match v Barbarians wouldn't count as it's rated as a club match.

2022-10-21T10:37:19+00:00

Divided Loyalties

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Two had Maori AB test caps, not full AB caps. The other made the extended AB training squad of 42 I think?

2022-10-21T10:36:17+00:00

Tim J

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There are younger players that the North have recruited, plus others. Ask any Australian on here about the talent that have been lost, but RA have not helped by not having a National competition up and running,

2022-10-21T10:28:31+00:00

Derek Murray

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I'm not convinced that is true. At the start of the 6N, the Scottish side looked the match of all bar France and Ireland, until it wasn't

2022-10-21T10:12:31+00:00

PeterCtheThird

Guest


Tim, that is some super-coordinated Northern Hemisphere conspiracy you are suggesting. Care to flesh it out? Do clubs get secret in-the-boot wads if cash for doing this? Is there a strict, implemented, law of omertà in place? It’s probably much simpler. Players who know they won’t get a look-in in one place go to another place. Not as much fun, I know.

2022-10-21T10:02:26+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

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Its all depends on what you are use to. The smaller home nations have often relied on the diaspora in most sports to put together teams. Ireland in Euro 1988 was described as the England B team. Commonwealth games would have loads of people who represent Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland not born there and are there either through the diaspora or other qualifying rules. Scotland rank 15th in registered players with 49k. In comparison Wales have 83k, Italy 87k, Ireland 102k, Arg & Jap 105k, USA 120k, Fiji 122k, NZ 151k, Aus 231k, Eng 382k, SA 405k, Fra 545k. I know that numbers can be hard to compare as there is alot of issues around how Unions count numbers but the fact that of the top 10 nations in rugby only Ireland make it of the minor 6 nations countries, in contrast Rest of the world could but together a 7Ns tournament and all would have higher numbers than Ireland. But everyone feels WR and rugby in general should be bending over backwards to help Fijian rugby, and say how good Japan's progress has been, yet both have more than twice the playing numbers of Scotland. Sri Lanka have 53k but we don't see WR helping them the same way they are helping Kenya who have a similar number and both more than Scotland.

2022-10-21T09:37:20+00:00

JC

Roar Rookie


Three — one for Italy too.

2022-10-21T09:00:10+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


Well, Aki was shoulder tapped by Hansen as a future All Black so he probably would be and knew it. As for the others, how can we know? They got better as they matured and the All Blacks got worse. BTW we sometimes benefit from the resident rules too so it's not a moan at Ireland

2022-10-21T07:51:39+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


it is simple and stops tier 1 nations gaining an advantage they don't need

2022-10-21T04:22:32+00:00

Neil Back

Roar Rookie


Given there's a neat gap currently of close to 3 whole rankings points between 9 and 10, it looks a more elegant solution Peter. But more often you can throw a napkin over a number of teams at that margin, so not hard to imagine the bizarre situation of a player waiting on results roulette as they wait to jump teams. As ozinsa has commented, unlikely to involve many players anyway, so probably an unnecessary complication.

2022-10-20T21:02:56+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


But Rennie still didn't pick him

2022-10-20T20:58:30+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


I know Brumbies wanted him to stay but what role would he have played this year in SR. Would he have been the starter

2022-10-20T19:39:12+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


ozinsa - Townsend does more with less than DR.

2022-10-20T19:28:18+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


So why did he finish up in 2019 and not start for WBs in the big games by the end. Was there articles written about him being a loss to the WBs when he left. We often remember the highs

2022-10-20T19:21:19+00:00

soapit

Roar Guru


As long as their kids don't play for another nation to Tonga initially they aren't impacted by my suggestion

2022-10-20T19:21:19+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


He seemed happy in July. His parents are here not easy to move away from them

2022-10-20T19:19:14+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


So getting a team who has never even got a draw v NZ so close the players were upset they lost doesn't show progress. VC record before was much worse v the big teams.

2022-10-20T18:24:08+00:00

MW7

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He is offshore so wouldn't be picked by NZ. TKB knowing Rennie (as his Chefs coach), that Aust pick some offshore players probably thought it was worth asking. Plus he is Australian too.

2022-10-20T18:18:46+00:00

MW7

Roar Rookie


You are talking crap. Rules changed after he left

2022-10-20T18:17:19+00:00

MW7

Roar Rookie


No such thing as Scottish citizenship. And a UK grandparent doesn't give you a UK passport

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