'So much trust in Dave': Wallabies skipper defends under-siege coach as horror injury toll revealed

By Christy Doran / Editor

DUBLIN – James Slipper says he doesn’t want to entertain any talk surrounding the makeup of the Wallabies’ coaching set up, insisting their poor record in 2022 does not reflect where the group is 10 months out from the World Cup.

After consecutive one-point defeats to Italy and France, the Wallabies lost another nail-biter on their end of season Spring Tour as Ireland held on to claim a 13-10 victory at the Aviva Stadium.

While Andy Farrell’s Irish won their 12th straight home victory to round out their year by claiming yet another southern hemisphere scalp for the season, the three-point defeat had the Wallabies ruing another night of ‘what ifs’ and a mounting injured list.

Making matters worse for Dave Rennie’s Wallabies, the third-year international coach will struggle to field a team to take on Wales in their final match of a long year.

Rennie, whose winning win record has dropped further to 36.4 per cent, confirmed hooker Dave Porecki (concussion), prop Taniela Tupou (Achilles), centre Hunter Paisami (MCL) and outside back Andrew Kellaway (toe) would all miss their season finale.

Star back-rower Rob Valetini is also in major doubt because of an ankle injury.

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With French-based lock Will Skelton and Japan-based playmaker Bernard Foley unavailable for the match, and Lalakai Foketi and Tom Banks already back in Australia because of injury, it leaves Rennie with few options to turn to for their vital season-finale.

Rennie put the injury crisis, which started before the Test opener against England where he lost Quade Cooper in the warm-up, down to “bad luck”, but said he was proud of character his side showed after the early loss of Paisami.

“It was gutsy, we hung in the fight,” Rennie said. “A fair bit of adversity tonight. We lost Hunter earlyy, Dave Porecki and later Kells (Kellaway) and Nella (Tupou) and Bobby Valetini all with injuries, who will be unlikely next week … there was a huge amount of character, but frustration because we had our opportunities, and you’ve got to give credit to the Irish defence.

“Gutted, gutted for the boys because it was very winnable.”

The defeat was the Wallabies’ ninth from 13 Tests this year, leaving Rugby Australia questioning whether Rennie was getting the best out of the playing group.

But Slipper, who admitted he was left with a “bitterest taste” in his mouth following another gut-wrenching defeat, said there was a multitude of reasons why they were just falling short but coaching wasn’t one of them.

Folau Fainga’a of Australia, left, is shown a yellow card by referee Ben O’Keeffe. (Photo By David Fitzgerald/Sportsfile via Getty Images)

“In terms of where this group is heading, what we’ve faced this year, I’ve got a lot of confidence, extremely a lot of confidence,” Slipper said.

“We’ve faced a lot of adversity. We’ve lost a lot of players. I can go through the list. But at the end of the day, we haven’t got the results that we wanted but as the captain at the moment, I’m happy with where we’re heading.”

Rugby Australia will hold a review at the conclusion of the five-Test tour, which will wrap up a marathon year that began in February, but Slipper said Rennie had the backing of the Wallabies.

“There’s so much trust in Dave,” Slipper said. “I don’t even want to go down that track at the moment, to be honest.

“We’re the players out there in those big moments that we’re falling in, and we go into these games, we couldn’t be more prepared. And that’s why I’m hurting a fair bit because we performed well.

“It’s the same as the French game, same with the Scotland game, they all came down to the wire. We got away with one in Scotland, but we’ve fallen short against France, Italy and tonight.”

Rennie said the Wallabies needed to work out why they hadn’t been able to win as many big moments in Tests.

“That’s Test footy, isn’t it? It’s an arm-wrestle,” he said. “We’ve had key moments in all those games where if we had done something slightly better we get a positive result. We’re not far away.

“We obviously played the top two sides in the world (Ireland and France) at the moment and probably did enough to beat both of them but didn’t. We’ve got to look at why.

“There’s a huge amount of character in this group. As Slips said, we left a lot of players through injury and unavailability and a lot of guys are really stepping up and, as we showed again tonight, more adversity but we’ve got enough character to stay in the fight.”

The Crowd Says:

2022-11-21T03:33:20+00:00

Cam

Roar Rookie


Definitely agree there is always exceptions, but when I say “History shows there is rarely a bounce-back when sacking the coach”, that isn’t a gut feeling, I am basing it on research that has been done for the NFL, EPL and European soccer leagues. One of the best papers I read on this subject was published by the University of Pittsburgh. They tracked 46 seasons of the Bundesliga and were comprehensive with their research and analysis and concluded sacking the coach has little effect to team performance in both the short and long term (up to 2 years). From a RA perspective, releasing John Connolly for Robbie Deans, sacking Deans for Ewen Mckenzie, forcing out McKenzie for Cheika and finally sacking Cheika for Rennie has only produced progressively worse results for the Wallabies (64% win record to 34%). Sacking Rennie won’t shift the needle unless it is done in conjunction with a host of other fundamental changes across a broad spectrum. To achieve lasting results, changes at RA need to start at head-office, move down through the coaching, high performance and fitness staff and all the way down through pathways, talent ID and grassroots rugby.

2022-11-21T03:14:55+00:00

numpty

Roar Rookie


Never seen players go into bat so much for their coach like the wallabies player the last couple of weeks. They clearly seem to like him and have trust in his systems and feel like they are letting him and the coaching group down.

2022-11-21T03:13:21+00:00

numpty

Roar Rookie


Game management improved. Set piece improved. Defence improved. Maul improved. Kicking improved. Attack declined. Discipline unchanged.

2022-11-21T03:11:04+00:00

numpty

Roar Rookie


Game management must've improved if they had that much territory as well...

2022-11-21T02:46:53+00:00

Leroy14

Roar Rookie


Stats paint a picture. You see what you want to see. I’ll follow the logic

2022-11-20T22:18:54+00:00

Doctordbx

Roar Rookie


You've made it to the world cup. The world cup of wilfuly being a j bag.

2022-11-20T22:04:15+00:00

Objective Observer

Roar Rookie


No, I’m not saying that. What I am saying is that after 3 years he has not identified and developed talent to have a clear pecking order of players in key positions. The best example is 10 but 9 and 2 are others. There is no attack philosophy as one earlier article noted we have forwards at first receiver more than we should. DR just has not got results.

2022-11-20T21:56:10+00:00

jameswm

Roar Guru


We’ve made it to the WC

2022-11-20T21:38:59+00:00

savant

Roar Rookie


No need to neck roll in defence

2022-11-20T21:04:55+00:00

scrum

Roar Rookie


That was not my point. It was your statement that Rennie had no control over the team. Discipline is an issue and apparently it is addressed in the preparation but has not improved. But managing players is complex, it’s very simplistic to say just drop players and problem solved. If Rennie followed all the “Roar experts “advice the team would be in disarray.

2022-11-20T20:34:48+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


Wish I knew. I’d tell Dave

2022-11-20T19:15:19+00:00

Wallabies_Larkham

Roar Rookie


Hi oz I just saw now on the roar that Thor might not even make it for the WC. He ruptured his achilles :shocked: Oz how is it that our players are so injured and yet look at AB or Boklings. I think they don't loose so many players.

2022-11-20T19:08:03+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


Our defensive breakdown work was infinitely better

2022-11-20T19:02:02+00:00

Wallabies_Larkham

Roar Rookie


"but I can see Rennie is developing depth." I think every test match coach is doing this because you just can't play the same team year in year out not unless if you want to them to be injured and exhausted before WC arrives..

2022-11-20T18:55:14+00:00

Wallabies_Larkham

Roar Rookie


Because another article here on the roar pointed out we are the most penalised team. But if it is still hard too believe you can always rewatch every match and count it yourself :thumbup:

2022-11-20T18:45:10+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Skelton can change games? Skelton can shift rucks into the next postcode.

2022-11-20T18:28:25+00:00

scrum

Roar Rookie


And what is your evidence to that , or perhaps an opinion based on very little.

2022-11-20T18:08:12+00:00

Bobby

Roar Rookie


I can only imagine the concern of Thorn and the Reds at the loss of Tupou. Season 2023, gone!

2022-11-20T17:22:14+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


As much as I’d like to blame BOK, I don’t think it was the ref

2022-11-20T17:17:29+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


It was a tight game. They happen. I’m disappointed with our attack but Ireland didn’t look any better. It was a slog and we hung in

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