Northern View: Eddie's reaction to Boks disaster insults England fans, cynical Wallabies-Wales cash grab a sign of distress

By Mick Cleary / Expert

English rugby was in the dock during the week. A leading Member of Parliament described it as having ‘failed on an epic scale,’ that it was ‘shambolic’ and that its guvnors were ‘asleep on the job.’

The Parliamentary select committee was referring to the RFU and their hapless handling of the financial meltdown that saw two clubs, Wasps and Worcester Warriors, go bust. The MP might well have been referencing Eddie Jones and his misfiring England team.

Like some mad professor in a laboratory, Jones keeps meddling and fiddling, shaking test tubes, changing formulas in selection, then seeing it all go up in smoke before muttering that ‘don’t worry, it will be all right on the night.’

Try telling that to the deflated punters who began trudging out of Twickenham before the final whistle, boos echoing round the vast stadium as England turned in yet another woefully inadequate performance.

They are not the first side to be beaten-up by a Springbok opposition. But, hey, this is HQ. Hey, this is England, pumped-up, stiff upper-lip England, famed down the years for its beefy bruisers, one-dimensional ‘white orcs on steroids,’ with a blinkered kicking machine at fly-half, playing the percentages and booting the leather off the ball. ‘Is That All You’ve Got?’ asked the Sydney Morning Herald in 2003. Yes, it was and it will do very nicely, thank you.

England have shed that armour. Jones keeps droning on about wanting to restore an England identity, for the team to be true to its DNA. On this evidence, he looks to be as far away as ever. This was every bit as comprehensive a dismantling as the Boks’ 32-12 World Cup final victory in Yokohama in 2019. At least that was South Africa’s first team. And at least it was on neutral soil.

Eddie Jones, the England head coach looks on during the Autumn International match between England and South Africa at Twickenham. (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

Here the Boks were short of half a dozen front-line players, as this match was played outside the international window. And still they dominated up front, emasculating the English scrum.

There was particular delight for them also in scoring one of the great tries seen at Twickenham when the new star of the wing, Kurt-Lee Arendse rounded off a length of the field move with a swerve and a step that a David Campese or Gerald Davies would have been proud of. So much for the one-trick pony Springboks. Boring, boring Boks? I don’t think so.

How did Jones react to this shellacking? By insisting that England “are moving in the right direction” and that “I don’t care what other people think.”

Well, he damn well should. The media is only a mouthpiece for the fans. And they are the ones forking out between £100-150 for such lumpen rubbish. Once again, Jones trotted out the meaningless platitude that it was”‘entirely my fault,” about as sincere a mea culpa as a playground larrikin attempting to wriggle out of trouble with a teacher. The England head coach has used that line several times in the last few years. Every time it has been without consequence in the corridors of power.

Now we all know that England has as deep a pool of players as any in the world, up there with France and on this evidence, South Africa. Things can turn around pretty quickly. And they will have to. England effectively only now have the five games in the Six Nations championship to sort it out. (There are some other warm-up matches pre the World Cup but those fixtures are intended for fine-turning selection).

This was England’s sixth loss of the year. There have been five wins and a get-out-of-jail 25-25 draw with the All Blacks to make this their worst return since 2008. That is not cheering news as they head into the New Year.

There is now a growing disconnect with Jones’ team and its support-base which is not a healthy state of affairs, all the more so during a growing cost-of-living crisis in the UK. A winter of discontent has already hit Twickenham.

Last Man Standing in Cardiff Wins The Day

Superficially, it was an entertaining watch at the Principality Stadium as Wales contrived to lose a game they ought to have won comfortably, coughing up a 34-13 lead to allow the patched-up Wallabies to enjoy their long flight home and ease the pressure on Dave Rennie.

That is more than can be said for his opposite number, Wayne Pivac. It was a surprise that broadcasting producers did not post a before-the-watershed warning on TV screen as Wales fell apart for Pivac’s face as the self-inflicted catastrophe unfolded was a horror show to rank with anything that Hitchcock might have come up with.

It was also striking just how parlous a state rugby union is in. This was a fixture purely to fill the empty coffers of both countries. If the Wallabies actually were animals there would have been hordes of protesters outside the ground shouting about cruelty issues as anyone with two legs was forced into action after five weeks of hard labour round Europe.

(Photo by Huw Fairclough/Getty Images)

Fair enough. Pandemic and all that. Unions with not a pot to piss in. Professional sport having to pay its way. Even so, it was a sobering reflection of the times.

Rugby in Australia has always had its difficulties as it competes with the much more popular codes of football. In Wales, though, it is the national sport, deeply embedded in the psyche of its people. Yet it is in grave danger of imploding, on the verge of being unfit for purpose. The manner of this defeat was an apt illustration of that.

Doddie Weir – a giant of a man. RIP.

Doddie, we all knew him as Doddie, an affectionate sense of connection with a man imbued throughout his life with a great sense of mischief and perspective.

Let us not forget either that he was a bloody good player, winning 61 caps across a decade. Even the torment of the Motor Neurone Disease that was to eventually claim him at the terriblly young age of 52 did not manage to reduce him. He did more to raise awareness, as well as funds, of MND than anyone.

Doddie died with a twinkle in his eye and a determination to pass on the knowledge that life is for the living no matter the burden of the moment.

 (Photo by Jane Barlow/PA Images via Getty Images)

His fellow Scot and 1997 Lion, prop Tom Smith, passed earlier this year, another with stoicism in his veins. While they both, as do we, love to indulge in the ephemera of this sporting life, the wins, the losses, the joy, the heartache, it is easy to think that a premature death such as Doddie’s “puts it all into perspective,” as the cliché would have it. Actually, it’s the opposite. The “magnificent triviality” of sport ( as a former colleague, Hugh McIlvanney, once put it), really is what matters. Jones and England. Wales and Pivac.

Live the moment for there are others who no longer can.

The Crowd Says:

2022-11-29T22:00:55+00:00

Pom in exile

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:boxing:

2022-11-29T21:48:45+00:00

Muzzo

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Why?? Did you fall off your chariot?

2022-11-29T09:22:25+00:00

Pom in exile

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Do you live under a rock Muzzo? :laughing:

2022-11-29T08:15:11+00:00

Full Credit to the Boys

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Great. Thank you. I'll enjoy it over the off season.

2022-11-29T04:57:41+00:00

Just Nuisance

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The first 30 minutes was a hard watch . Neither side looked like they wanted to be the first to actually play some rugby . The first team in the match to do so was The Boks and were basically forced into it when Willemse had his space closed down and was forced to run out of trouble . A great try was scored . Only time England looked dangerous was when the actually played some rugby with the ball in hand . But too little to late . This was a poor match overall .

2022-11-29T02:24:06+00:00

BleedRedandBlack

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It’ll be interesting to see what impact Eddie Jones’s latest fiasco/gaslighting attempt will have on the English coach selection for post RWC 2023. I wasn’t picking him to be vulnerable before the tournament, but maybe he is now. And there a lot of forms that vulnerability could take. The first, that he could lose any influence over who his successor is. Given that Sweeny has talked about having Jones’s successor involved with England from May, and at RWC 2023, that could get awkward. Second, that England’s RFU look to bring in someone a lot earlier than expected, before 6N 2023, in order to give a sense of direction, as well as appease the fans. Third, that they promote Eddie out the door, make him DOR or whatever, and leave the new appointee to do the coaching/selection etc. Fourth, that they demote him to advisory status, after all his single world cup win came as an advisor and see how it goes. Fifth, the simply fire him. From what I can see 20,000 ks away, politically something has to happen, and that happening will involve decisions being taken a lot earlier than expected. Where is Razor again? Is he still in England, still with the Babas?

2022-11-29T01:32:05+00:00

Pom in exile

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If you’ve got Stan, I’d highly recommend the Premiership highlights show with David Flatman and Topsy Ojo. It’s about 45 mins long and covers all the games and they’re good value to listen to. Topsy provides the insights and Flats the bantz. :stoked:

2022-11-29T01:24:13+00:00

Full Credit to the Boys

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Cheers. I'll watch the Worcester games and keep an eye on him.

2022-11-29T01:21:08+00:00

Pom in exile

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Yes, I’d say that he is and he’s comfortably more powerful than Farrell. He’s technically a 13 but I would say that he could play 12 (and has done before). He’s recently moved to Bath after Worcester folded and he’s hit the ground running. He’s got good hands as well and has a nice offload.

2022-11-29T01:16:27+00:00

Full Credit to the Boys

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Is Ollie Lawrence powerful enough? Seems he's lighter than Owen Farrell but I've not seen that much of him in action. I'd have thought Manu at 12 would give him the go forward he needs.

2022-11-28T22:49:08+00:00

Jacko

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Yes he does sound keen to Coach the ABs and personally Id have him signed already but if NZR dont sign him I cant blame him for wanting to coach an international team. I think he is in a very good position from his perspective as there is plenty of nations looking for a change in coaches. I might even call it the perfect storm from his pov.

2022-11-28T22:26:44+00:00

Pom in exile

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There was certainly a clamour to get Smith involved but not with Farrell outside him. Right now, I think most of us would take Farrell if we have to, as long as there was a proper midfield. I’d prefer Smith to have a run at 10 with Ollie Lawrence at 12 and either Marchant or Slade at 13, I think that would cover a lot of bases.

2022-11-28T21:54:51+00:00

Full Credit to the Boys

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The crowd were adamant that they wanted Smith in the team for a year or so, and with good reason, as the 10. But Eddie is strongly connected to Farrell and so both are there. That's how I read it anyway.

2022-11-28T21:28:18+00:00

woodart

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I would say that what has happened is the end result of english clubs having way to much clout. they are privatley owned and run. these are multimillion pound enterprises who have thumbed there noses at the english rugby union for yrs. to then expect the english union to take the blame seems exceptionally hypocritical. I realise we live in a society that wants "someone else" to take the blame for everything, but how far can you go to avoid responsibility? if the english rugby union turned around now and said we are going to have compulsory oversight and final approval on all financial transactions in privatley owned enterprises, imagine the uproar and cries of communisim.

2022-11-28T21:02:46+00:00

Greysy

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Did Rassie tell you that? Strange that WR being in agreement results in him being banned for a second time.

2022-11-28T21:01:38+00:00

Greysy

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I don't care....

2022-11-28T20:23:45+00:00

Pom in exile

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Pretty sure that the crowd don’t want both Farrell and Smith in the same team, most observers would be happy with one of them starting and the other on the bench, that choice is completely down to Jones.

2022-11-28T19:23:29+00:00

pm

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Lawes has been superb the last few years, and better than Itoje in tests. Yes. I would go Tuilagi, Slade. They will play off Farrell. It's his show. England look best with him dictating things and he is his best at 10. I also think even Marchant and Malins would look better with Farrell telling them what to do.

2022-11-28T17:35:17+00:00

HiKa

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Would you then go with Tuilangi at #12 and Slade at #13? [I think the biggest out for England recently has been Lawes @ #6.]

2022-11-28T17:31:37+00:00

HiKa

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The water breaks called by refs were introduced to eliminate water carriers coming onto the field of their own accord literally dozens of times during matches. Refs can call one or two waters breaks each half of about a minute duration and do so when there is a natural break in play that would have caused some delay in any event. The consequence of stopping the water carriers endlessly ferrying coaching instructions to players is that it is now the medical staff who take that role, such is professional sport.

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