Rugby News: England stars express 'disappointment' over Eddie axe, Wallabies weigh up future amid Rennie uncertainty

By The Roar / Editor

Senior leaders within the England team have come out in support of sacked coach, Eddie Jones, saying it was “disappointing” the Australian was let go less than a year out from the Rugby World Cup.

Jones, 62, was given his marching orders by the Rugby Football Union one week ago after an underwhelming November, which bookended a disappointing year that netted just five victories from 12 Tests.

While there was talk Jones had lost the dressing room, British and Irish Lions star Anthony Watson and 2019 World Cup member Lewis Ludlam followed the lead of Owen Farrell by expressing their disappointment the coach had been let go.

Owen Farrell, Lewis Ludlam and Anthony Watson have expressed their “disappointment” that Eddie Jones was axed. Photo: David Rogers/Getty Images

Watson described Jones as a “world-class coach and a world-class human”.

“He gets a lot of shit for some of the stuff that he has and hasn’t done,” said Watson, who recently returned for Leicester and scored a magnificent solo try against Ospreys after a lengthy stint on the sidelines.

“He’s the first to call me whenever I have a niggle. He was the first to call me after three months to see how my ACL recovery was progressing, how my achilles was going. Taking time out of running a World Cup programme to send me off to do one-on-one speed coaching. There are very few people who can see the bigger picture like him. I’m disappointed I won’t be able to continue to work with him.

“There aren’t many people who give up their entire lives to rugby like Eddie Jones does. And we saw it first-hand; other guys from the outside might not see that but it’s distressing to see someone give up so much and then get so much heat from outside, when he’s dedicated his life to the game.”

Watson wasn’t the only English regular to come out in defence of Jones, with back-rower Ludlam –  the Northampton captain –  saying he did not believe it was the right decision to axe the veteran coach.

“I don’t necessarily agree that it was the right decision,” Ludlam told The Times’ Ruck podcast.

“But I think it was the nature of the way public pressure is set up now. It was really disappointing so close to a World Cup as well.

“I think we’ve all got a look at ourselves and how we can get improvement out of the team. Eddie’s always given space for the players to drive the team in the direction that they want it to, and they want it to. So for us as players, I think we’ve got to look at ourselves as well.

“We’ve got to look at where we can get improvements in our game, because Eddie is not the sole reason that England rugby has not been going as well as it has. In fact, I’d say the opposite. I think he’s a key pillar in why English rugby has been so good in the last five, four or five years.

“The reality is this group of players who probably haven’t been performing the way we’d like to, and unfortunately, it was Eddie who’s had to take the flak for everyone.”

Jones came under all sorts of scrutiny for running a tight ship, driving high-performance to the point of breaking point and churning through coaches.

Yet, Ludlam, who was a surprise pick for the 2019 World Cup, said he thrived in a physically and mentally demanding environment and added that being “uncomfortable” drove standards.

“Culture is an interesting thing in sport, and it’s almost impossible to please everyone and get a culture that fits everyone in the team and some people in that high-pressure environment don’t enjoy it and don’t thrive in it,” he said. “And for some people with Eddie, it allowed themselves to take the pressure off and enjoy that high-pressure environment.

“It’s not going to work for everyone, it is uncomfortable for everyone, but I think uncomfortable is good. I think uncomfortable gets the best out of you, it spurs you on. It is uncompromising, but I think with Eddie, you know exactly what you’re getting, you know exactly what the standard is, there’s no confusion on that, which I think is the beauty of that whole environment.”

Owen Farrell says Eddie Jones is “one of the best coaches” he has played under. Photo: Dan Mullan – RFU/The RFU Collection via Getty Images

Their comments came after Owen Farrell, who was appointed as captain in 2018 by Jones before losing the role for the July series against the Wallabies, said it was “unbelievably disappointing” to see the coach sacked.

“Eddie had been a big part of England Rugby for a long time now and he has been one of the best coaches I have ever had so, for that, I’m massively thankful,” Farrell told the BBC.

“We are disappointed it has finished early and we owe a lot to him. I have been around for a while now and not been around too many changes, both at club and international level. It’s not pleasant to go through.

“I don’t think it has come from the players. There is obviously stuff we all want to get better at from the results but as players you look at yourself and see what you can do.”

Wallabies trio considering future in Australia as RA considers

It is that time of the World Cup cycle, too, when players are considering their futures.

The Sydney Morning Herald reports Harry Wilson, Len Ikitau and Taniela Tupou are considering overseas moves.

Each one of the trio is weighing up their futures for different reasons; Wilson was used sparingly and was left behind from the Spring Tour; Ikitau is looking at RA’s Overseas Selection Policy; and Tupou has long considered a sabbatical overseas but his inconsistent form and agonising Achilles injury has meant the governing body is considering whether a short or long-term contract is the best practice.

Wilson last week told reporters in Brisbane that he was “very frustrated” to have missed selection on the Spring tour, saying “I think I’m good enough to get back in there.”

As for coach Dave Rennie, whose contract is set to expire following the World Cup, the Herald also says RA is considering bring Jones on board as a consultant, “or even – sensationally – to replace Rennie six months out from the tournament in France.”

Dave Rennie’s future remains up for discussion. Photo by Morgan Hancock/Getty Images

Beale’s story to be aired

Kurtley Beale is one of Australian rugby’s most vexed players. Some punters love him, others wouldn’t have him allowed to go near Rennie’s team.

The facts however show he has played 95 Tests and gone to three World Cups and was nominated for World Rugby player of the year. He is the most capped Indigenous player in Australian rugby.

On Thursday, Beale’s journey through Australian rugby will be shown on Stan.

The Crowd Says:

2022-12-14T06:18:18+00:00

Muglair

Roar Rookie


I think the host gets a free ride. Having said that I would be putting money on them making the final 20 in 2027 with Eddie in there. When are they going to increase the RWC numbers? The fastest way to close the gap between tiers.

2022-12-14T04:33:10+00:00

El Flash

Roar Rookie


What England stars ???? They have a couple of above average players but I didn't see any last month playing.

2022-12-13T21:29:40+00:00

Lurk

Guest


Got to love the “staff writers” too. The ‘guest’ accounts of journalism. :shocked:

2022-12-13T14:57:03+00:00

signpost

Roar Rookie


What a rubbish article from unidentified journo.

2022-12-13T11:10:33+00:00

fiwiboy7042

Roar Rookie


my sympathies for that dilemma!

2022-12-13T10:54:42+00:00

Just Nuisance

Roar Rookie


USA is a tough ask . Not sure a coach can make the diffs . I mean Gary Gold is imo an excellent coach and would not disgrace himself coaching any team ( Also a Sharks candidate ) . Yet couldn't do the job .Eddie won't come cheap and USA may just not have the budget for him .

2022-12-13T10:50:33+00:00

Mo

Guest


I’ve said the same thing cs. No need to tie your own hands just have a stated policy to select local.

2022-12-13T10:48:03+00:00

Just Nuisance

Roar Rookie


Yeah and why should they really . Same for the Boks . Read Rusty’s post here . Anyway the dressing room is too small to accommodate Eddie and Rassies head sizes. . :laughing:

2022-12-13T10:07:06+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Sorry JN there is no talk about it from NZ at all. And that's exactly the way it should be

2022-12-13T10:05:20+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Agree...

2022-12-13T09:28:26+00:00

fiwiboy7042

Roar Rookie


they first need to get to the Cup! :silly:

2022-12-13T09:27:29+00:00

fiwiboy7042

Roar Rookie


no way NZ would take him.

2022-12-13T09:13:35+00:00

GentleGeorge

Guest


Kurtley Beale is such a wonderful player and the Wallabies have been lucky to have him. Of course one comes to expect snarky attacks from the usual middle aged, white bald men but the rest of us have his back. Well played Kurtley, hope to see you in Gold at France23

2022-12-13T09:09:27+00:00

cs

Roar Guru


Having thought about this issue since what seems like the dawn of time, I agree, there should be no quota, with the proviso that there will be an explicit preference to select the national team from current domestic players. Everything being more or less roughly arguably equal between players, you can forget about being picked for Australia if you're abroad. Only proven stars need apply!

2022-12-13T08:56:58+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


Surely it's not a fait accompli? They must throw cash at one of our few world-class players.

2022-12-13T08:56:01+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


Coaches need to make choices. There will always be guys disappointed. You make it sound like incompetence that Rennie chooses somebody ahead of Wilson when in fact he has failed to grasp opportunities presented to him. I could understand how he would be unhappy with his lack of game time but a perfectly good case can be made for why guys are chosen ahead of him. Your comments on Tupou are inane. If he's fit, he plays. He has been swapped regularly between starter and bench and, in many people's opinions, his best impact is off the bench. The coach has the final call. Simple

2022-12-13T08:41:46+00:00

pm

Roar Rookie


The Wilson thing is a beatup. He's just not proven to be a good test player in the opportunities he has had. Plus Valentini is a significantly better 8 and Wilson isn't what they need at 6.

2022-12-13T08:13:19+00:00

Rusty

Roar Guru


I wouldnt mind him putting in some consultancy to the Boks but back in 2007 it was just the head coach, now we also have the very much involved DOR. So it may be a bit of a logjam of ideas and perhaps we are already seeing an evolution of play and just need to see it run its course. The idea of Eddie helping us to win another cup does have an element of delicious schadenfreude though Sharks - well that would be excellent for them right now but would be worried about the long term... otherwise it may be better if they gave MacNamara a shot given he is already being touted as a future Leinster HC. This would secure him and ensure the continued evolution of the Sharks attacking play which has come on leaps and bounds (Cardiff game excused - why cant Sharks swim?) The best place for him in mind would be the USA - he gets free rein and to build from scratch. His mere presence will up the profile of the game there and maybe finally wake the slumbering giant

2022-12-13T07:00:49+00:00

Lurk

Guest


I’ll qualify this statement by saying that at this point the current coaching group deserve (take that positively or negatively doesn’t matter) to go to the RWC with the squad they’ve identified (and any changes due to injuries picked up in SR may impact that). After that. It’s all on for young and old.

2022-12-13T06:28:27+00:00

Just Nuisance

Roar Rookie


And of course the Sharks in Durban who just fired their coach and currently have an interim . If anything this one makes the most sense .

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