Smart Signings: Mitchell Moses would be nice, but halves are not Wests Tigers' major problem

By Mike Meehall Wood / Editor

It’s silly season. We’ve gone through the finals, the World Cup and the November 1 deadline after which, NRL players who are out of contract for 2024 can discuss terms with other clubs. With that in mind, we’re launching Smart Signings, our new series on who NRL clubs should be targeting to address their biggest weaknesses, using the players that are actually available to them.

If you read the NRL news, you might have noticed a lot of chat about Mitchell Moses, the Wests Tigers, and Mitchell Moses going to the Wests Tigers.

It’s great silly season content, of course, and the Smart Signings column is nothing if not a contributor to the silly season discourse, so let’s dig into it.

The dramatic personae are pretty simple to get around. There’s the Wests Tigers, the worst team in the NRL and subject of banter years threads on Twitter. They are, if you remember, crap at rugby league.

There’s Mitchell Moses, the halfback of the team that just made the NRL Grand Final, who is in the last year of his contract and thus has been hot property since the signing deadline passed on November 1.

There’s also Luke Brooks, current halfback of the Wests Tigers, who is on stupidly large money for a man of his talents, but whose deal will end this year, plus Adam Doueihi, Moses’ halves partner at international level with Lebanon and also in a contract year.

Oh, and there’s the people who may or may not run the Wests Tigers – it’s hard to work out if anyone is running it at times – which includes Tim Sheens, who may or may not be making long-term recruitment deals, Benji Marshall, who may or may not be the coach in the long-term, CEO Justin Pascoe, who may or may not have his hands on the purse strings and chair/dealmaker Lee Hagipantelis, who may or may not be wearing a silly hat.

There are a lot of moving parts here. Moses might return to the Tigers, whom he left in 2017 because they were rubbish and yet who have also got a lot worse since then, as the draw of getting $1.4m per season – if you believe reports – will do that.

Built into his decision might be that Parramatta, his current employers, are happy to let someone else pay his salary while they invest some of his wages into the younger model, Dylan Brown. That would be ruthless but, probably, the right call.

If that move happens, then Brooks is goneskis and the Tigers probably need to sign Doueihi down for the long-term.

This is Smart Signings, however, and we don’t ask whether things will happen, but rather if they should.

Doueihi and Moses is not a bad pairing for 2024, if the Lebanese performance at the World Cup is anything to go by, and undoubtedly, Mitch Moses is an upgrade on Luke Brooks. But is he worth being close to the best-paid player in the NRL at 29 years of age? Probably not.

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The question we like to ask is this: is halfback actually the problem? The stats would tell you that it isn’t. We’ll get to that, but let’s first look at who the halves options are.

The Wests Tigers cycled through several 7s last year, with Brooks, Jackson Hastings and Jock Madden all getting a go.

Hastings has now been released to Newcastle – presumably paving the way for cash for Moses – and Madden walked out, signing with Brisbane.

Brooks is a laughing stock at the moment, which I would say is unfair. He’s been in a chronically underperforming team for years and he didn’t pick his wages, the Tigers did. He’s not the 16th best halfback in the comp, that’s for sure, but he plays for 16th best team with the 16th best forward pack.

He did look a bit better when moved to 6 with Hastings at 7, but that was all relative: they won just four games last year, two of which required their opponents to have historically bad afternoons in terms of both performance and luck, one was against a Bulldogs side that had a sacked their coach that week and the fourth was their one good showing of the year, up in Brisbane.

Alright, they also played well in Townsville and the Gold Coast and were robbed, but consider that mean reversion for the Parramatta and Souths wins they jagged.

They were bottom or second bottom in the NRL for all the things that you really don’t want to be bottom of: metres made & conceded, line breaks made & conceded and, naturally, tries scored and conceded.

Their halfback metrics – line engagements, kick metres, forced dropouts, attacking kicks – were actually fine, or at least nowhere near the worst around. Solid, middle-of-the-pack stuff – which, by the standards of the Wests Tigers, is actually an overperformance.

What we can read into this is that they could sign Moses, but to be honest, they could sign Jesus and he wouldn’t be able to work enough miracles to get over the fact that they are rubbish everywhere else. Their halves were not the problem.

Some of their issues have been fixed for this year. Api Koroisau, David Klemmer and Isaiah Papali’i arrive, representing a massive upgrade on Jacob Liddle and James Tamou at hooker and prop and a decent upgrade at second row, tempered by the departure of Luke Garner – one of their best last year – and Kelma Tuilagi to Penrith and Manly respectively.

Charlie Staines is better than what was there before, too, and the likes of Asu Kepaoa and Junior Tupou will now be a year older, which helps in the outside backs. Tommy Talau and Shawn Blore return after missing all of last year through injury and should add something, too.

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The general question of offensive production, however, remains. I’m not as worried about the forwards, because the reinforcements will help in that regard. There are certainly some upgrades in there.

Klemmer is one of the most effective props in the NRL and would be playing Origin had he not fallen out with the NSW Blues staff. If they can get Joe Ofahengaue and Stefan Utoikamanu to any sort of level, get Alex Twal on the field for a consistent period and integrate Papali’i into the team, then that aspect might get going again. To my mind, these are players in a slump rather than outright bad players.

Where they do lack, however, is in the backs. Let’s play a thought experiment. We can safely say Daine Laurie is starting at 1, though by whatever metric you want to measure fullbacks, of whatever type, he’s nowhere near good enough.

I would say they should cash in on him for a trade with someone stupid enough to stump up – Newcastle, again – and put Staines there, but I doubt that will happen. It’s a problem that will probably resolve itself by Laurie getting dropped.

Last year had Kepaoa, Tupou and Junior Pauga deputising on wings, with Ken Maumola, David Nofoaluma and Starford To’a all also getting time out there. One expects Kepaoa, Maumola and Nofa to fight it out for Round 1.

Inside, however, is where the big problems lies. Brent Naden joined midseason and was a liability, Garner and Oliver Gildart had a crack but have both left, James Roberts has retired, Tommy Talau is off an ACL and new recruit Triston Reilly is straight over from rugby union.

This is the glaring hole that needs to be filled. Their centres to finish last year were Kepaoa, To’a and Garner, and if you watched a lot of them, this was obviously a big problem. Kepaoa and To’a averaged one try caused per game which is, obviously, horrendous.

So who is available? Of those at other clubs but on the outer, you might have a word with Brad Parker, in his last year and relegated to third choice behind Morgan Harper and Tolu Koula at Manly. If Parker is second choice at the Sea Eagles, ask the same question of Harper. Either would be an upgrade. For what it’s worth, Harper’s defensive starts were actually quite good, bar one unfortunate evening in the Shire.

Mawene Hiroti has been bombed out at Cronulla but tore it up for Newtown in the NSW Cup – and he kicks goals, too, which the Tigers struggled badly with – or even better, have a word with the tackle-busting, try-scoring former All Black Sevens player Will Warbrick, who would have debuted for Melbourne last year had he not picked up an injury.

If you’re speaking to Melbourne, Marion Seve spent most of the back end of last year proving that he’s a bit too good for reserve grade could be worth a crack.

It’s annoying that Adam Keighran has gone to the Catalans as he was up at 92% tackle efficiency and kicked goals. If Jarrod Croker really wants 300 games in the NRL and could be prised out of Canberra’s reserve grade, he would also solve that and, yes, I am recommending Jarrod Croker to the Wests Tigers because that’s how bad their options are.

There’s possibilities out there. I doubt many would be expensive and certainly might make a bit more sense than chucking $1.4m at a playmaker entering his thirties when you don’t make metres or stop tries.

This isn’t me saying don’t sign Mitch Moses – though, I wouldn’t, at least not at that price – but there is a very Wests Tigersy feel to signing a star a year out and burning another season while you wait for him to arrive, by which point, the coach will be in a final year, the star signing hooker will be too old and everyone else will have given up hope again.

And, as Tigers fans know too well, it’s the hope that kills you.

The Crowd Says:

2022-12-18T01:13:58+00:00

Birdy

Roar Rookie


Well that would put me out if my missery and let me choose a Qld club.

2022-12-17T23:20:24+00:00

JennyFromPenny

Guest


The base story to all this, is that the 2005 success has cemented the continuation of a merger that has long been broken. It's time that teams de-merged, and Balmain show themselves as a non-viable entity.

2022-12-17T08:33:58+00:00

Dave

Guest


I actually think the Tigers will surprise a lot of people next season. I think you’re off the mark with Brooks as well. A big reason the Tigers want Moses is because they know he can help get the best out of Brooks who would shift to 6. I think they may part with Laurie and move Doueihi to fullback if that comes to fruition. And if Doueihi goes I wouldn’t be surprised if the Tigers made a play for Tedesco to return as the Roosters have Manu and Suaalii waiting to get a crack at fullback also.

2022-12-17T01:47:53+00:00

Short Memory

Roar Rookie


A bit selective with your memory there. Naden was dropped by Panthers in favour of Tyrone May. His attack was better than May, but his defence was woeful. This was repeated exactly at the Tigers. He scored more points than any other centre for Tigers, more run metres (other than To'a whose numbers were higher because he played fullback for a while), equal second tackle breaks and line breaks (above Garner). But he also had the worst Tackle Effectiveness (69%), and highest errors(29) - though less Try Causes (15) than To'a (25). For comparison, Kepaoa had only fractional better defence with 71% Tackle Effectiveness, the same number of Try Causes (15) and virtually the same number of missed tackles (38) in seven less games. My two cents worth is that what is lacking at Tigers is not a player in any particular position - but effective defence - both in terms of individual player drilling, and defensive structure. Paying $1.4m for Mitch Moses won't help the Tigers make tackles on the edges.

2022-12-16T21:17:18+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


I'm surprised you highlighted Adam Keighran's given you've (correctly) also lambasted tackle efficiency as a stat. But the tigers issues won't be fixed on the playing roster, they've got massive governance problems and until they get board and front office stability it's always going to be an overs club.

2022-12-16T09:27:15+00:00

Panthers

Guest


Everyone was saying that Naden was a fantastic buy for the Tigers when he went there. Another Panther that looked better playing for Penrith, than when he went to another club. Not only Melbourne can do that .

2022-12-16T08:33:21+00:00

Birdy

Roar Rookie


Nice to see Klemmer on board. Fancy letting Hastings go. Sorry to see James Roberts go. Must have real personal problems . Such an entertainer so much talent. Can I predict a 9th finish. :happy: If they do I'll renew my membership. The clubs been a rabble for over a decade. Lots of pressure on Sheens. Why would he do this to himself.

2022-12-16T07:16:03+00:00

JennyFromPenny

Guest


If the [insert name] Dolphins swim in a Red Sea, then maybe Moses should have been the obvious choice to part waves ? Sure they have Katoa, and Sullivan signed, but one of them would naturally move to the back-up half role. I mean is fair enough question/query as to who is their current back-up half ?

2022-12-16T03:34:28+00:00

Short Memory

Roar Rookie


Agree Doueihi would be a good bal playing 13... in attack. But an abysmal one in defence.

2022-12-16T03:00:37+00:00

souvalis

Roar Rookie


If Bateman reneges on them, sure they swapped the wrong player. Like the idea of experimenting with Laurie at 6 and maybe talking with Douhei about trying the ball playing 13 role with Api.

2022-12-16T02:48:22+00:00

Cam

Roar Rookie


I really like the Tigers pack for 2023, especially if they land Bateman. Apisai Koroisau was the best buy in the NRL for 2023 and will be a game-changer for the Tigers. Agree they have a couple of issues in the centres and if they can't go to market (release Naden for cap space), I'd be inclined to move Nofo in one and partner with Starford To'a (Staines and Maumalo on the wings). I don't think the Storm would release Will Warbrick, but they might do a loan deal for Marion Seve.

2022-12-16T02:23:31+00:00

Forty Twenty

Roar Rookie


Laurie looks the goods but he only scored his second try late in season 2022 which was very surprising when I looked it up. Even at the Tigers a good player like him should be scoring a lot more than that.

2022-12-16T02:18:08+00:00

Gus O

Roar Rookie


“if the Lebanese performance at the World Cup is anything to go by”… do you mean the world cup where Doueihi‘s massive ego and big mouth got him sent off and suspended? Seems to me that Wests Tigers need more of a team first mentality and that is not what I observe from Doueihi.

2022-12-16T01:47:08+00:00

Richard

Guest


I'm a (very) longtime supporter of the Tigers. They haven't had any good consistent centres for a long time so I agree with this article on that point. They should have got Gagai (even though I don't like the bloke) when he went to Newcastle. Their recruiting has been abysmal for a long time too. I think they really missed a trick with this Newcastle swap. They should have swapped Brookes instead of Hastings. Hastings has a bit of toughness & get up & go & that's what they need more than anything. Getting Moses is a waste of time & money. They shouldn't have let him go in the first place. That is another big problem for the club. They let too many of their best players leave! Anyway, This may seem like a long shot but I would have swapped Brookes, kept Hastings, put Doueihi in the centres (if he doesn't want to play there get rid of him) put Laurie at 6 (he needs to get more ball) & see how Staines goes at fullback. It certainly couldn't be worse than last year & they'd have a load to spend on some new backs...

2022-12-16T01:09:39+00:00

Pomoz

Roar Rookie


Max, that is only the half of it. They have hired their next first grade coach already and he has zero coaching experience. Donut. Nil. Nada. Nowt. Why on earth would you do that? At least make him coach lower grades for a few years.

2022-12-16T00:17:05+00:00

Andrew01

Roar Rookie


Well in 2023 you wouldn't be saving anything as Brooks is (apparently) on as much if not more than Moses. Beyond that, Moses will earn probably $500k more than Brooks if Brooks doesn't improve. And If Parra are signing Brooks, then there is no point spending all that money on the rest of the team built to compete now, because Brooks won't win them a comp.

2022-12-16T00:04:43+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


It’s a decent pack and with Api there they should provide plenty of ground. Agree they lack a game breaker center but I’m also of the opinion a center is only as good as the service they receive. Between Kepaoa, Talua, Tupou, throw in Maumalo they should be better. I would have Nofo at FB, his experience and consistency outweighs speed Staines or Laurie offers. Brooks’ wage has made it impossible to buy another quality half, especially with Doueihi seeking a massive pay day as well. It appears Brooks has a photo that will keep him employed forever so I would be asking him to come back to that $750k point (still too high but…) and move him to #14 and either move Doueihi on and bring in Moses. Or keep Doueihi at #7 (he’s too slow for anywhere else) and target a Brown-esk running 5/8.

2022-12-15T23:47:21+00:00

Larry1950

Guest


Why don’t the Eels just swap Moses for Brooks & save $300-400K?

2022-12-15T23:06:11+00:00

souvalis

Roar Rookie


For sure, the three quarters are poor but those you want to replace them with are equally average. Go for the young and promising Benji. Can't find any news of Eel Penisini signing an upgraded extension with the club, the most talented available. Billy Smith at the Roosters, injury prone may have trouble getting back in.. but undeniable potential. Declan Casey at the Dogs may also have been pushed back a little in the queue with Xerri's signing but looks a prospect and free. And the final one if all else fails B.Kelly from the Titans, got an error in him but tough and aggressive and better than anything they've got. Then there's Johnny Bateman...

2022-12-15T22:39:54+00:00

Andrew01

Roar Rookie


Plenty there I agree with. But the problem is, all those outside backs you list make them better, sure (though some barely), but none of them are game changers or can create something out of nothing. So who is creating for them? Certainly not Doueihi unless it is a hit and hope bomb, And Brookes is not a big creator either. They need a quality half.

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