Hasler, Flanagan or someone with fresh ideas - who looks right for Dragons’ coaching job when Griffin gets hooked?

By Tony / Roar Guru

There are few certainties in life, you know, things like death and taxes, but you can add to that grim list the fact that the Dragons will never go anywhere while Anthony Griffin is holding the coach’s clipboard.

Somehow, the St George Illawarra board saw fit to extend his contract for another year early last season, and it was a strange decision indeed, but hardly surprising given some of the other clumsy administration that has beset the club over the last few years.

Moving forward, and unless the Dragons play totally out of their skins during the first three months of the season, it’s highly likely that Griffin will have the plug pulled on his Dragons coaching career, and if so, it raises the question of who will be the next contender for the poisoned chalice that is the St George Illawarra coach’s car space?

Only Wayne Bennett has been a success in this role, and even he knew when to cut and run.

A number of coaching candidates come to mind, including some of the usual suspects, and some contenders looking for an opportunity to take the next step. The final choice will come down, firstly, to who wants to take on the role in the first place, if anyone, and whether the board prefer to go with an experienced coach or a fresh face.

Let’s have a look at the main contenders, beginning with some familiar faces.

Des Hasler

At 61, Des Hasler has a proven track record of turning a team’s fortunes around and taking them all the way to the top, and keeping them there. When he began his first grade coaching career with Manly back in 2004 he led them from near the bottom of the table to a qualifying final in his second year at the helm, and then kept them in the finals for the next six years, picking up two premierships along the way.

When he joined Canterbury in 2011 he took them from 9th place to the minor premiership in his first season, and to the finals in four of the next five years. Hasler knows what it takes to turn failure into success, and he isn’t afraid put a few noses out of joint in order to get the job done. Apparently he’s very keen to coach in the NRL again following his messy rainbow coloured departure from Manly in 2022, and surely it won’t be long before someone is chasing his signature for 2024.

Des Hasler walks onto the field during Anzac Round. (Photo by Matt King/Getty Images)

Shane Flanagan

Shane Flanagan is 57 and has been coaching since the late 1990s, firstly as an assistant with Castleford in the ESL, and then with the Roosters under Ricky Stuart. He also was assistant coach to Stuart with the Kangaroos in 2007 and with the NSW Origin team under Craig Bellamy between 2008 to 2010.

Flanagan’s coaching career became much more interesting once he was appointed to the first grade role with Cronulla towards the end of 2010. It took him a season to hit his straps, and then had the Sharks in the finals in both 2012 and 2013, before he was suspended for 12 months following the peptide debacle.

The Sharks hit rock bottom without Flanagan in 2014, and picked up their third wooden spoon, but well and truly bounced back when he returned the following year, finishing in the finals in 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018, and famously winning their first premiership in 2016.

During this time Flanagan was largely responsible for building a siege mentality at Cronulla, and no team enjoyed running on against the Sharks, particularly if the game was being played at Endeavour. Flanagan was suspended for a second time towards the end of 2018 for breaching the terms of his 2014 suspension but was eventually reinstated and spent a couple of years as Paul McGregor’s assistant at the Dragons, and is presently in that role at Manly. He’s now ready to go and knows what it takes to build that need to succeed.

Michael Potter
Like me, I’m sure many people had assumed that Mick Potter’s coaching days were behind him, but all this changed when he took over the reins at Canterbury once Trent Barrett “resigned” in May last year. In his short tenure, the 59 year old helped the Bulldogs regain some much needed pride, climb off the bottom of the ladder, and play some attractive football.

He handed over a much happier and more confident squad to incoming coach Cameron Ciraldo than had been seen at Belmore in quite some time. Potter’s coaching pedigree goes back to the mid-1990s, primarily in England, where he had some good years without winning a title, and he signed on as Wests Tigers coach in 2013. What he found at the Tigers was the same basket case, both on and off the field, that exists today, and his contract was not extended beyond 2014. Since then he has held numerous assistant coaching roles. Potter seems happy in his assistant coaching role, but just maybe he’d like to have another go as an NRL coach. He certainly seems to be able to get the best out of average players.

If the Dragons prefer to ignore the experienced campaigners and go with a younger coach with fresh ideas, and hope for the Todd Payten/Craig Fitzgibbon effect, there are number of NRL assistant coaches who might be of interest, all of whom, coincidentally, had long playing careers with the Dragons.

Jason Ryles
Ryles is 44, and began his coaching career during his last two season as a player for Melbourne, and then took his first serious appointment in 2015 when he became Craig Bellamy’s assistant at the Storm, a position he retained for the next six years. He also spent time during these years with English Rugby and joined Trent Robinson at the Roosters in an assistant coaching role in 2022.

Ryles would be a strong candidate for the Storm coaching job once Craig Bellamy retires, but perhaps the Dragons can beat them to the punch.

Ben Hornby
Ben Hornby, aged 42, began his coaching career in 2012 at the Dragons in the junior development space, eventually becoming an assistant first grade coach. He joined the South Sydney coaching staff in 2020 and has been an assistant first grade coach since 2021, working under both Wayne Bennett and Jason Demetriou.

Dean Young
At 39 years of age, Young bears one of the most famous names at the Dragons club, but perhaps that currency has devalued recently when his father stepped down from the board? Dean Young began his coaching career with the St George-Illawarra junior teams in 2013, and stepped up to an assistant coaching role under Paul McGregor in 2015. He’s also been involved with both the Indigenous All Stars and Tongan national teams. He became Dragons interim coach for the last 6 games of the 2020 season when Paul McGregor resigned, but left the club at the end of the season to take up an assistant coaching role with the North QLD Cowboys under Todd Payten.

Of course the third option is to throw a ridiculous amount of money at one of the incumbent first grade coaches, although securing anyone contracted beyond 2023 would appear to be mission impossible, unless it was another dud like Adam O’Brien or Justin Holbrook. Jason Demetriou looks to be about to extend his Souths deal so that leaves Kevin Walters, who is also under pressure, Craig Bellamy, who surely wants to retire gracefully rather than try to revive the Dragons, and Todd Payten, who would be most unlikely to leave the ascendant Cowboys.

Clearly, the Dragons need a new coach, and they need him now, unless of course they’re happy to be one of the teams constantly inhabiting the bottom of the table. If they wait too long the best prospects will no doubt be snapped up by the likes of the Titans and Newcastle, who will also be in the hunt before the season’s half over. I’m sure that everyone connected with the club, other than the delusional, have already written off season 2023, so now is the time to appoint a coach for 2023 and beyond who can have the time required to build his support team and get involved in roster management. Thankfully, the Dragons have 10 players, coming off contract this year, with only Connor Muhleisen among them worth retaining, and also a few others contracted beyond this year who should either be shown the door or parked in reserve grade. Having the coaching position finalised soon will be critical to being able to both retain players and recruit new talent where required.

My choice would be Des Hasler, sign him for four years, get him in there as soon as possible and give him the final say on recruitment. What do you think?

The Crowd Says:

2023-03-01T05:23:39+00:00

Franco vapore

Guest


100% get hasler now..the team needs discipline straight away..don't let dessie go..before some other team gets him.

2023-02-26T09:15:03+00:00

Short Memory

Roar Rookie


Paul Wellens. He knows how to get NRL has beens to play above their ability. And he already has the shirt.

2023-02-26T07:34:55+00:00

blahblah

Guest


Whoever comes in must bring some accountability to St George. That's the most important buzzword for me. Everyone - not just coaches and players - must be accountable for what they do. If you can buy into that idea then you start raising standards. Off the field. On the field.

2023-02-26T04:32:37+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


Trying to follow the logic on that Tony? I can't see why the coach means the club is underinvesting? The Occam's razor on this is they're underinvesting because they don't have the money (the driver to that is in my mind either: they're poorly run, board not aligned or damaged brand) Is it's the coach then we've got to assume that either: A) he deliberately turning down investment (and so did Mary) which to me seems like a management issue again that you keep hiring guys who want a handicap (I doubt this) B) They dislike him (and Mary) so don't want to invest until he's gone. Which is going to be hard to hire someone when you've sabotaged the two predecessors. Frankly if the issue here is hook then the club is way more FUBAR than I gave them credit

AUTHOR

2023-02-26T03:10:18+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Yes Lord Ted, Ryles would do me too.

2023-02-26T01:05:02+00:00

Tom G

Roar Rookie


Ordinary squad? It took the Roosters plus the officials to beat them. 2013 robbed

2023-02-25T11:33:22+00:00

Lord Ted Said

Roar Rookie


Very good point that last one Tony, neither can I. In consideration of everything above I cant go past Ryles: because of the Bellamy/Robinson mentorship which is beyond huge. Because no other aspiring first grade coach has had that apprenticeship. Because he is a local junior and a top shelf ex-player and that counts at this club, rightly or wrongly. Because he is new guard, not old guard and that is where most clubs are heading - in acknowledging the changes in the game and the needs of the modern playing personnel. And to balance that, because he won’t take ANY shit from his players. Because they should do it now and not wait until the situation gets worse.

2023-02-25T11:13:37+00:00

Dodgy Dragons

Roar Rookie


He must have photos of the board and coaching staff in compromising positions!!!

2023-02-25T07:54:46+00:00

Gray-Hand

Roar Rookie


Griffin also resigned Ben Hunt. Griffin inherited one of the worst rosters in the league. It takes more than two seasons to fix that. Bennett had $9.6 million of free salary cap space to recruit any player he wanted and still failed to recruit a spine.

AUTHOR

2023-02-25T06:49:20+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


I can't really think of anyone who's improved under Griffin

AUTHOR

2023-02-25T06:47:59+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


How does Woods get selected week in, week out?

AUTHOR

2023-02-25T05:10:04+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


In the same time that Bennett signed 30 odd players, many of them test and origin standard, Griffin signed the likes of Musgrove, Liddle and Murdoch-Masila, and extended Woods for another season I rest my case.

2023-02-25T04:50:21+00:00

Gray-Hand

Roar Rookie


Have you seen the Dolphins roster that Bennett put together? And he had a completely open salary cap! 2023 is going to be a very eye-opening season for Dragons fans regarding how much a coach can do with a crappy roster.

AUTHOR

2023-02-25T03:17:52+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


That's not the point. Bennett, Bellamy and Robinson wouldn't have put that roster together in the first place, and certainly wouldn't cop their poor attitude and behavior.

2023-02-25T03:05:11+00:00

Gray-Hand

Roar Rookie


Winning 12 out of 24 last year with a roster as weak as the Dragons had was an excellent result. How many games do dragons fans think Bennett, Bellamy or Robinson could have won with that roster?

2023-02-25T01:36:51+00:00

Dodgy Dragons

Roar Rookie


Totally agree with you there Adam. Ryles is the front runner for me too. Dragon man at heart, has served under the 2 best systems of the past 15 years, and hopefully can fix our woeful defence, in particular around the ruck and middle which has been our biggest failing for god knows how long. For me the team itself doesn’t need a massive overhaul, just needs a defensive structure where the whole team is on the same page, players tackle instead of grab and cuddle. A couple of targeted signing in positions we need strengthened (forwards) and the most important thing, that hook doesn’t possess, a game plan!!! It isn’t all doom and gloom yet, Liddle was impressive for me in the trials, 300% better than what McCullough dished up last year and Murdoch masila run with heart and hopefully the other forwards will follow his lead, especially if they can ever get Woods out of that 17, and Mbye permanently in the 14 jersey as that is his only spot. I live in hope, but prepare to be disappointed in spades with Griffin in charge!!!

AUTHOR

2023-02-25T00:50:57+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Money talks, and the "top" clubs can only fit so many highly paid players under the cap, so players will come to the Dragons once they clean up their act and get a decent coach in the process.

2023-02-25T00:40:57+00:00

Bernie

Roar Rookie


disagree. the coach plays a huge role. if you're trying to rebuild or move up the ladder, the coach is a big attraction or deterrent to future signings. further, quality players attract quality players; if your roster is weak trying to sign top tier players will mean paying a premium for them. the recruitment at Saints has been dreadful; even better players like J.Su'a & M.Suli & F.Molo havent kicked on since joining. Bennett, Robinson, Bellamy - these guys are magnets, Dragons have a repellant.

2023-02-25T00:17:43+00:00

Pomoz

Roar Rookie


Tony, I just read this morning that Tallis made the comment the roster sucks and the issue is with the players. He said "if any Dragon's players came on the market, who would want them?". I thought about what he said about the players and I am struggling to argue. Hunt would be handy, BIrd maybe and then......? He was less inclined to blame Hook and was basically saying the roster needs massive changes. Personally, I think they need to do both. New coach, and a roster refresh. The only issue I see is that the Dragons don't seem to be able to attract top tier players, I'm not sure why. For example, why wouldn't Korasaiu be interested in the Dragons? The Tigers have been worse than the Dragons. What about Farnworth? He would rather go to the unproven Dolphins (admittedly, with the best coach in NRL history). The GM football and CEO need to have a close look at the contract negotiation process, clearly something is awry.

AUTHOR

2023-02-24T22:57:25+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


It's the stuff of nightmares, isn't it

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