The Wallabies desperately need a template to help them rise through the rankings - so why not copy Ireland?

By Harry Jones / Expert

Australian men’s rugby has a dream draw this year, a World Cup coming, a ‘new’ coach’s honeymoon, and a big question.

Who do we emulate? Why not Ireland?

The Irish have held the number one rugby ranking for 35 weeks, trailing only New Zealand, South Africa and England as frontrunners. Andy Farrell’s men have swept the Six Nations, beating every team by double figures, and nearly averaging a 4-1 try margin.

Why copy Ireland instead of other All Black challengers, the Boks and the French? And why copy anyone?

Well, Australia is currently ranked seventh and needs a template.

The brutal collision experts in France and South Africa do not provide Australia the best path. It is modest-sized Ireland who shows the way.

Rugby in Ireland, like in Australia, is not the most popular winter sport.

GAA holds a 21 percent share, soccer 19 percent, and rugby trails at 14 percent in Ireland; a position familiar to Australian rugby backers.

Ireland has about 5 million inhabitants; a smaller pool of potential players than Australia.

There are four professional rugby clubs in Ireland; three of them furnish the majority of the Test team. The Brumbies, Waratahs and Reds tend to staff the Wallabies in the main.

Ireland does not mock their private school breeding grounds, nor count it as a weakness that so many players come from a handful of top schools. Blackrock College has won the Leinster high school championship 70 times.

Australia has prime rugby schools, too, perhaps not as concentrated.

Rather than think of this as a flaw, it allows Ireland (and Australia) to teach a style, recognise talent, hone that talent into an academy setting, a system well known to an Australian, David Nucifora, who has built one of the best high performance units in rugby.

When rugby league is excluded, the two countries actually have similar player pools at the moment.

Both countries are modern democracies with low corruption; their rugby does not depend on the kind of ‘sugar daddies’ the Top 14 has. Analytics are common to Irish-Australian business; both have experienced sustained growth in GDP and clean capital.

The two countries share a history.

As for style, the Irish Grand Slam was built on a style which seems akin to the ‘Australian Way’ spoken of by Michael Cheika and now, Eddie Jones.

Ireland did not kick the most (that was France), passed more (897 passes in the Six Nations) than any team except Italy, was one of the weaker carrying teams (a low metre per carry and far fewer tackle busts than France and Scotland or even Italy); their style was built on high and fast ruck count with accurate kicking and passing.

There would be two big workons. Ireland were never carded in this year’s Six Nations, and were the least penalised at less than nine a match.

Recent vintages of the Wallabies have been profligate penalty teams and carded aplenty.

Eddie Jones can pick a Wallaby team which does come close to mirroring the best of the Six Nations, or even Ireland itself.

If a team including the likes of Hugo Keenan, Mack Hansen, Huw Jones, Sione Tuipulotu, Damian Penaud, Finn Russell, Caelan Doris, Josh van der Flier, Tadhg Beirne, James Ryan, Richie Gray, Cyril Baille and Dan Sheehan had to be Aussie-fied, it seems more feasible than, for example, Bok-ifying or Frenchifying the Wallabies.

Hansen and Tuipulotu are pretty Australian. Antoine Dupont and Tadhg Furlong would be fairly difficult to copy.

But Jordan Petaia, Hunter Paisami, Len Ikitau, Marika Koroibete, Quade Cooper, Rob Valetini, Pete Samu, Michael Hooper, Nick Frost, Rory Arnold, and Taniela Tupou match up fairly well with these stars, man for man.

A high ruck, wide attack (until the red zone), kick-pass, ultra fit, fighting spirit Wallaby format is easy to envision, because it was the kind of style that was at the root of prior Aussie success.

Copy Ireland. It is the most similar to the Australian way.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2023-03-25T14:16:33+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Huge Like Antarctica

2023-03-25T10:49:11+00:00

CW Moss

Roar Rookie


Maybe but we need a super star 10 if we’re to succeed. :crying:

2023-03-25T03:39:30+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


were a BIIIIG island. like Japan

2023-03-24T09:43:27+00:00

Dida

Roar Rookie


I actually think a lot of teams used NZ's template over the last 5+ years, which has a lot to do with why the comp is so even. From my point of view, northern hem rugby has evolved from what it was and now looks a bit more like NZ rugby which I always think is a really well balanced game with the infamous ability to support ball runners and counter attack. So yeah, could be wrong but I feel NZ's template from their many years of dominance was very well copied or at least adapted.

AUTHOR

2023-03-24T02:49:07+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Thanks

AUTHOR

2023-03-24T02:46:08+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Yes, Ireland NARROWS its attack in the red zone

2023-03-24T02:34:53+00:00

tuohyred

Roar Rookie


Don't know about U 20s, but there was sabotage at Blues appointing Aussie. "Comical Ali" Williams a stand out saboteur

2023-03-24T02:28:09+00:00

Cassandra

Roar Rookie


Thanks Harry.

2023-03-24T02:24:52+00:00

tuohyred

Roar Rookie


Both 6' 2" in the old scale. Lump Lowe is supposedly 17.5 stone and "little" Hansen 14.5. Both can jump

2023-03-24T01:34:59+00:00

tuohyred

Roar Rookie


Nucifora was in coach's box behind Farrell at end of the game.

2023-03-23T21:24:30+00:00

woodart

Roar Rookie


that sounds like a word salad from a ceo. aus rugby's biggest problem is aus rugby, specifically, interstate political rivalry. for yr one sentence prescription to work, first all aus rugby has to start pulling in the same direction.one thing I have learnt on this board, is how quickly any discussion devolves into petty interstate bickering.

2023-03-23T21:18:55+00:00

Phil

Roar Rookie


Good observations. Attack doesn’t mean you have to run over people if you have a good pass and kick that’s very important too. Will keep watching him.

2023-03-23T19:36:14+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


All had levels of success prior to coaching the wallabies. But by your logic can any Reds too then. If one player is at fault for results than any one player is.

2023-03-23T15:50:34+00:00

Bentnuc

Roar Pro


Great post savant. Yeh rennie emphasised the collision and player size far too much. As you say, 38% wins says it all. If you have a pack with Skelton, Tupou, Holloway at 6, Valentini etc you want to play slow rugby. Lots of line outs and scrums. A big pack like that cant keep up the pace of high in play mins. With all the law changes to speed up the game have we seen peak 'big man' rugby???

2023-03-23T15:29:02+00:00

Bentnuc

Roar Pro


Great read Harry :rugby: could easily be done in australia and ireland are a great example. Seems to me that Cheika tried to play a similar style as Leinster and Ireland but he made one big mistake... he filled his team with far too big players. They couldn't hold the tempo for 40 mins let alone 80. I watch leinster regularly and what strikes me is how 'small' some of their players are. It makes complete sense. If you are playing high tempo, high play mins, possession rugby and rarely kicking 3s like they do - you want endurance over power. They crowd the middle of the pitch so they can maintain possession but then always have a player out very wide on each wing to take advantage of space. Watching leinster reminds me of the ABs of 2010-2019. Although the ABs were a counterattack team both teams were far fitter than the opposition. The final 20 was always theres for the taking.

2023-03-23T15:22:21+00:00

HenryHoneyBalls

Roar Rookie


Dont discount discipline. Ireland have received two yellow cards in two years. In the same period NZ have received something like 16 yellows and two reds. Que conspiracy theories.

2023-03-23T15:06:07+00:00

HenryHoneyBalls

Roar Rookie


No way of knowing if the champions cup is a lesser competition than super rugby. I suspect the best sides in both would be similar in level.

2023-03-23T14:21:48+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


My initial reaction to the suggestion that we emulate another team is why? I dare you to drop in on a Bok training session, or french, or Irish or Scottish or Kiwi training session and offer advice on who they should be trying to emulate in order to get competitive at the WC. But the intellectual process of thinking about how we want to play probably doesn't mean inventing something unique so it's not the worst idea, upon reflection. I'd argue that the small matter of discipline means we can't fully emulate anybody's game plan so we will be picking pieces of many rather than a lot of any one.

AUTHOR

2023-03-23T13:26:10+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


But, @machooka told me you are an island

AUTHOR

2023-03-23T13:25:45+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Great point

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