Studs and duds: 'Horrendous' Vunivalu 'will cop a caning', Quade Cooper 'not the answer' as Carter stakes RWC claim

By Tony Harper / Editor

The Wallabies’ World Cup campaign got off to the worst possible start in Pretoria and showed the mountain of work Eddie Jones faces to bring coherency to his squad with just four Tests left before the tournament kicks off in France.

The 43-12 pummeling in Pretoria, where the Wallabies scored the first and last tries but were outclassed in between, left Jones bristling, as evidenced by his testy clash with a South African journo.

Jones took four debutants to South Africa, but perhaps his most contentious pre-match decision was to give Suliasi Vunivalu a start on the right wing. It’s fair to say the former NRL star did nothing to silence his doubters.

It wasn’t just that his opposite winger Kurt-Lee Arendse scored a hat-trick of tries – although that is probably enough to tell the story of his poor performance.

He was ineffectual in attack – making 23 metres from four carries – and was yellow carded near the end for knocking the ball down to prevent Arendse a fourth try.

“He had some good parts,” Jones said afterwards. “When you’re playing off scarce possession and you’re playing against a team that is dominating territory … I’d never take too much into consideration (about) their performance.”

Speaking on The Roar’s Instant reaction podcast, Brett McKay was scathing of the NRL import and his impact on the Wallabies’ cohesion at the back.

“Australia’s back three were just never connected,” said McKay. “Vunivalu is going to get a whole lot of attention. He’s already trending on Twitter from Wallabies fans.

“He’s going to cop an absolute caning for that display and most of it will be justified. His positioning in defense was horrendous – his defence is never great anyway but his positioning tonight in this game was just hopeless.

Manie Libbok of South Africa outplayed Quade Cooper. (Photo by Sydney Seshibedi/Gallo Images/Getty Images)

“There are so many stocks falling across Wallabies ranks. I don’t think Quade Cooper had a great game and then Jordan Uelese, when he came on, had three line out throws pulled up not straight and that’s not what you want to see from your reserve hooker.”

Former All Blacks star Jeff Wilson went harder at Cooper on Sky Sport in NZ.

“Quade Cooper’s not the answer at 10,” he said. “If they want to go forward, if they want to go to a new era and play a different way Gordon’s got to be at 10. They couldn’t control the territory and if you can’t control territory against the Springboks you’re going to get hurt.”

Cooper was outshone by Springboks debutant No.10 Manie Libbok and one of the few bright spots came when he was replaced by Carter Gordon, who celebrated his try with a swan dive that The Roar’s Harry Jones, watching from the stands, said was met with disgust by Springboks fans.

Gordon must be a chance to come for a start in Sydney next week.

“I think he’s got to start next week against Argentina,” said Tim Horan on Stan Sport.

“Yes, it’s been late in the game, but he’s certainly made that little bit of difference to the width of the Wallabies.”

Eddie Jones said it was a tough ask for the four debutants – Tom Hooper had two defensive errors before leaving early with a shoulder injury, while Richie Arnold and Zane Nonggorr got on the park.

“That’s like in cricket parlance for a debutant batsman playing against the West Indies with four pacemen. The ball zinging around your head the whole time – you’re just ducking weaving trying to survive. So they survived today they’ll be better next game,” said Eddie Jones.

Jones has talked a good game ahead of his return match but this result will bring added scrutiny. Is it a case of the Emperor’s new clothes? And what does he do now?

(Photo by Sydney Seshibedi/Gallo Images/Getty Images)

Iain Payten, writing in the Sydney Morning Herald, questioned Jones’ tactics.

“Jones believes possession rugby is dead, and generally speaking, doesn’t want to hold the ball beyond three phases in high-pressure games. Hence the massive amount of kicking by Nic White at Loftus Versfeld, and assorted others,” he wrote.

“The problem is Australians don’t appear in tune with a tactical kicking plan and in Pretoria, the chasers simply weren’t in the contest. South Africa’s wingers cleaned up most contestable kicks, rendering the kicks a waste of possession. South Africa won the air and never looked troubled.

With the Wallabies playing off White, the ball rarely made it to Quade Cooper, a player who needs dozens of touches to be at his best.

“When Tate McDermott came on and Carter Gordon was able to handle the steering wheel and pass, the Wallabies looked more fluent. It was encouraging for Gordon on debut but also pointed to a now pressing question for Jones: does he hold firm with the territory-first mentality, or seek more balance and allow Cooper and Samu Kerevi to use the ball more?”

“It’s hard to say it’s a step back because with Eddie Jones in charge, that were starting from fresh anyway,” said McKay.

“I don’t know you can say they’ve gone backwards but what they now change and what sort of side he puts out for Argentina in Sydney next Saturday is going to be really interesting.

“The Argentina game would be the one he would have been t looking at to try a few blokes. Carter Gordon, starting at 10 is probably one of those. That’s worth doing but I feel like he’s got to find some combinations here. And he’s got to try and work out what he’s best side is.

“It is easy to say that he probably needs to make half a dozen changes to the starting side, but he was probably going to do that anyway. Will we actually know whether that’s, looking at what needs to be done or whether that’s a reflection of the performance in Pretoria?. It’s a hard one to judge at the moment.”

Australia’s set piece was destroyed – they conceded 13 penalties to three – and Harry Jones took aim at the Australian hookers. Dave Porecki was perhaps unfortunate to see yellow after being adjudged to have brought down a Boks maul as they steamed towards the try line.

Bright lights were few and far between.

“On the Australian side of things I think I can really only point to Will Skelton and Nick Frost, who I think were actually pretty good and contained the Boks’ locks pretty well all things considered,” said McKay.

“Neither line out was great tonight. I must say Skelton that was maybe his best Wallabies Test in a good which sort of speaks to the way his international career has been up and down.”

McKay also had praise for Marika Koroibete and Len Ikitau – “He did exploit Lukhanyo Am in defence a couple of times and make tackle busts and get around him and we get offloads away so he was he was pretty strong.”

Former Wallaby Stephen Hoiles said the game could be a defining one for players hoping to go to the World Cup.

“I think that Pete Samu went well coming off the bench when Tom Hooper came off early,” said Hoiles.

“The lineout struggled, three not straight throws in the second half from Uelese, put himself and the team under pressure. There’s a few big moments there. I look there are some good positives as well. Carter Gordon should probably start next week.

“I definitely think there’s a few guys there that said, ‘yeah, I’m ready for this level’, Carter Gordon being one of them And a couple of others we need to look at and going maybe that’s not the right way to go.”

The Crowd Says:

2023-07-10T13:59:03+00:00

Bourkos

Roar Rookie


I was on the Rennie train, then got whisked away into Eddieland. I hope the ride is worth the price of entry

2023-07-10T13:03:16+00:00

Sci

Roar Rookie


Ohh testy kcol. ; )

2023-07-10T11:00:30+00:00

Sci

Roar Rookie


Nasty toff joff

2023-07-10T06:27:26+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


If i'm not allowed to mention the better 9 in Aus I cant answer the question Cec. :laughing: :laughing: Sometimes the player you should give time too is under your nose.

2023-07-10T05:50:18+00:00

Cec

Roar Rookie


It would be fair to say that when one is on their second go round that people will not have as much patience compared to someone new. I think that is why so many here already have Ed nailed to the post on one result which really isn’t right. Ed also brings it upon himself with his at times salty demeanour. Based on the last test Ed has every chance of being 1–4 or 0-5 leading into the RWC so I’d be weary of using figures after that performance. Just saying using figs goes both ways.

2023-07-10T05:41:07+00:00

Cec

Roar Rookie


Hey Jacko I get the frustration as everyone on the pitch could have / should have done better. But with White it’s a question of who’s got a better overall skill set to his? Please don’t say Tate, who I like for variety, but he’s got holes in his game that are core 9 skills and not a test starter yet. The next 9 with a complete skill set is Lonergan & he has a sharp kick for goal too. White left due to salary cap btw, he’s a life member and forever a Brum, but yes time stops for no one.

2023-07-10T03:00:40+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


“ pedestrian and disinterested ” Pedestrian is a great result with a brand new achilles still running it in. Disinterested is when your misgivings about the sketchy, novel, house of cards game plan come home to roost, and you spent your night playing speed bump to 115kg Bok centres and backrowers. On top of not getting the ball, because the WBs suddenly had two inferior ‘playmakers’ ‘helping’ him.

2023-07-10T02:55:15+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Doc, I hope that Eddie’s Phoenix-esque rise from the ashes makes this superfluous, but in case it doesn’t- those who were in Mr38%’S corner are ready with blunt instruments, engraved with told ya so’s. But it’s too early, relax, I’m sure Eddie’ll be fine.

2023-07-10T02:44:55+00:00

Jazz

Roar Rookie


QC didn't see a great deal of ball due bucket loads of penalties conceded, But i did feel he lacked aggression in attack and defense, SA are built on toughness from 1 to 15, its in their blood. I didn't see how SA were at least bit concerned or scared from him....We need to bully alot more, trouble is if we use CG, can his defense be better? what happens if he gets injured? NW needs to come off the bench and start with Tate, boot TW and put in Hodge at fullback. Kerevi should play again but change his angles, take a side step, keep the defense guessing. Our league background to run straight sometimes works but in rugby but we have to run angles, opposition teams are getting better with defense (except us). We might win next week but what team do we field against the AB's? So many questions that i dont have the answer to, i am amateur couch watcher!

2023-07-10T02:18:50+00:00

piru

Roar Rookie


How about a list of the times he's carved up the SA defences? A week is a long time in rugby - a year is an eternity

2023-07-10T01:37:05+00:00

Nakinz 14

Roar Rookie


Ok so going to rely on cooper ..good luck with that .. he’s been expose so many times in test rugby .. do you want me to give you a long list.. your team is weak up front .. you got smash in the set piece.. you won’t beat the all blacks with eddie in charge

2023-07-10T00:50:29+00:00

piru

Roar Rookie


Cooper (two Os, mate), has matured and improved beyond measure since then. He was however a non factor against SA - not sure if it was the game plan, something else, but he never looked comfortable

2023-07-10T00:28:50+00:00

Joffrey

Roar Rookie


Wilson is a clown, He has small man syndrome and is sour his hair fell out and he didn`t win a RWC ( Should be called baldy not goldy ) :laughing: :laughing:

2023-07-10T00:09:54+00:00

Hoy

Roar Guru


"With the Wallabies playing off White, the ball rarely made it to Quade Cooper, a player who needs dozens of touches to be at his best." I'm late to this party, but this is interesting to me. I have been saying for a while that playing off the 9 sucks for us. If we don't play off the 10, we are SO predictable and robotic we are easy pickings. We see it weekly at Super level. Gordon played for the only Aus super team playing off 10... their results were not great, but Gordon was very good running his team around.

2023-07-09T22:48:11+00:00

Frankly

Roar Rookie


I think that everyone is aware that there is more to be learnt in defeat than victory. Eddie should have learnt a lot about the Wallabies game strategy and team selection from this game. Maybe a victory, or even a more competitive performance could have papered of the cracks. However, the fact he is trying Vunivalu, who has done nothing in the past years to warrant selection, who had a terrible game, and Eddie believes the game situation wasn't such that he could judge him, is a little bit of a worry. I'm afraid Vunivalu has run out of time.

2023-07-09T22:45:25+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


“ Big question is where do the Wallabies find the aggression they need to dominate the contact area? In the backs, I think they need to persist with combinations, play Quade with Kerevi, give Gordon more time off the bench, replace Vunivalu.” Too much to like in that paragraph to edit it Viking. Contact area? Bell, Nella and Holloway(or similar)? Suli when get another run, I’m betting. This time with a workable kick pass strategy. But the big one is game plan. Fix it or bin it Eddie.

2023-07-09T22:34:05+00:00

jcmasher

Roar Rookie


Mate I really don’t get the love affair with Hodge. I get he’s versatile but he’s poor in every position and there’s 3 people who play each one better. He makes too many dumb mistakes in every game

2023-07-09T22:31:54+00:00

jcmasher

Roar Rookie


Mate Eddie’s had a few months of freedom where he’s been able to say what he wants with no consequences because he’s not had to prove any of it. I do love that he put rugby in the spotlight again but unless he turns the results around the backlash will be tough. I can just imagine V’Landers is winding up and getting ready to fire up. What will be interesting will be to hear what Eddie “The Mouth from the South” comes up with this week

2023-07-09T22:24:19+00:00

Riccardo

Roar Rookie


He may have no presence in the line-out but every time Samu comes on good things happen. Great footballer...

2023-07-09T21:54:35+00:00

Don

Roar Rookie


They also cleverly had players on the move in traffic very close to their runners and the pass receivers. When I was watching I found it really distracting seeing how many moving green jerseys were in the line. Smart...

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