Who are the greatest Origin coaches?

By David Roderick / Roar Rookie

With State of Origin finally put to bed for another season, this is an appropriate time to reflect on the coaching records of the two men in charge.

A win for the Blues in the final game quickly deflated the prevailing rhetoric of Billy Slater being the greatest coach in living memory. Brad Fittler’s achievements also suddenly didn’t appear quite so dismal, and maybe he did have a clue or two after all.

The result means they now have win records that are respectively good and acceptable, rather than genius and dunce level as they had been painted in the media.

But where do they fit in the grand scheme of Origin super-coaches?

Judging coaches on a metric of win percentage would see Fittler ranked in equal 10th position, managing nine wins from 18 games, thus a 50 per cent win record. The other men with the same percentage are Tommy Raudonikis, Graham Lowe and Kevin Walters.

In ninth place with 52 per cent is Wayne Bennett. You are probably familiar with his work.

Eighth place (56 per cent) belongs to Wayne Pearce, while seventh is held by Phil Gould (58 per cent). Younger readers, especially those who only know Gould from his Channel Nine appearances and whatever he is doing to Canterbury, may be surprised to learn that he was, by NSW standards, quite a successful Origin coach.

There is then quite a jump up to the next level of success (67 per cent), a stratum occupied by Mal Meninga, Terry Fearnley and Slater. There’s been a bit of conjecture that Slater may stand down, but I hope he continues for another series.

If Queensland can sweep that series Billy can then retire with the second-best record in Origin history, as he will have moved past Arthur Beetson (70 per cent) and Ron Willey (71 pe cent). There would also be some justice for the Storm, because if you added Slater’s hypothetical seven from nine to Bellamy’s two from nine that would give the club an overall 50 per cent coaching record at Origin record.

Currently the only 100 per cent record is that of John McDonald, who guided Queensland in 1980. Clearly this is a record that will never be surpassed.

And as we’ve recently been reminded, sweeps are rare and elusive beasts, so it seems unlikely Beetson’s and Willey’s records will be beaten any time soon.

One interesting feature of both men’s careers is that they played for one state and coached the other. This sets a precedent that could hold the key to injecting a bit of interest into next year’s series.

One of the problems with the current set-up is the lack of animosity between the coaches. Sport is drama and needs sub-plots of treachery and revenge. So, the answer seems obvious: why not get Cameron Smith to coach the Blues next year?

(Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

Channel Nine could manufacture some feud between him and Slater with Smith storming off and extracting revenge by guiding the Blues to a series win. An angry dumped Fittler would join his mate Slater at the Maroons, possibly in the role of waterboy.

This would displace Alfie, who would side with Smith and be given the on-field role of barking instructions at the Blues. Some sort of sideline altercation between Langer and Fittler with folding chairs could be arranged. Don’t tell me that wouldn’t get some ratings!

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2023-07-18T07:47:07+00:00

David Roderick

Roar Rookie


That's a fair call, but my preference would be Cronk coach Qld and Smithy coach the Blues. Then after a series win all of NSW would have to embrace Cameron as their hero and saviour. Maybe he could do a lap of honour with the shield at Shark Park to a standing ovation from home fans.

2023-07-18T07:41:50+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


It should definitely not be counted, but then no dead rubber should be.

2023-07-18T07:41:06+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


As well as that I think you should remove dead rubbers. They don't mean much plus the losers generally use them to save face.

2023-07-18T07:40:12+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


If you really want that sort of animosity, wouldn't you have Cooper Cronk coach the Blues and Smith the Maroons?

2023-07-17T14:57:06+00:00

Nico

Roar Rookie


The version I've read is that Wayne wanted Locky to take the kick but Locky wasn't too interested because he felt a draw was enough so it went to Lote who subsequently put it wide (Locky having also been robbed of a pretty legit try by the video ref). It's a shame because there's a bit of an asterisk now about those '99 and '02 Origin 'retains'

2023-07-17T10:48:20+00:00

Phil

Roar Rookie


Absolutely. You can't beat a fat with a red head.

2023-07-17T08:23:05+00:00

Emcie

Roar Guru


Oh I see, I wasn't counting the US game. Had him as 13 from 24

AUTHOR

2023-07-17T08:12:37+00:00

David Roderick

Roar Rookie


Genius. Perhaps have a boat and trailer for the Man of the Match?

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2023-07-17T08:11:14+00:00

David Roderick

Roar Rookie


Bennett won 13 out of 25 which is 52%. Some people give partial credit for his one drawn match so then his record becomes 13.5 out of 25 aka 54%. But not me. I'm also still a bit bitter about that draw. I did the long drive down to Sydney hoping to see Qld win the decider. As we were driving down we heard Bennett on the radio saying something about Qld only needing a draw to hold the shield. My mate Mick said Bennett would have the draw as his game plan just to annoy NSW. Sure enough when Carlaw scored late to tie the scores Mick says, "Wayne's sent out a message for Lote to miss the conversion." We held the Shield but it was a bit frustrating. Highlight of the match was seeing Gordie hurl that work-experience kid over the side-line.

2023-07-17T06:01:53+00:00

Bernie

Roar Rookie


alfie langer - more "appearances" than any other, and look at that winning percentage.

2023-07-17T05:25:12+00:00

RedcliffeFan

Roar Rookie


Fatty - just on the 95 series. Extraordinary.

2023-07-17T00:20:25+00:00

Dionysus

Roar Rookie


Fully agree I also think that you should not count any wins/losses in a dead rubber. Despite what everyone says the depth of effort and commitment can never be there.

2023-07-17T00:18:37+00:00

Dionysus

Roar Rookie


"One of the problems with the current set-up is the lack of animosity between the coaches. Sport is drama and needs sub-plots of treachery and revenge. So, the answer seems obvious: why not get Cameron Smith to coach the Blues next year?" An even better one would be to get David Gallop to coach the Blues. Smith would be back in Billy's coaching team in a heartbeat and the animosity between those three you could cut with a knife. The media could rake up all of the SC drama and to add spice, the NRL could offer up a final decision on Melbourne's astrixed premierships to the winner. Hold the 1st round in Melbourne and fill (100,000) the MCG with Melburnians baying (booing ?) for blood.

2023-07-16T23:36:32+00:00

Emcie

Roar Guru


I think Bennett's win percentage is actually 54%, but it doesn't really change much. Win percentage is a funny metric in a three game series, perhaps some weighting to games coached would paint a more realistic picture. You'd have to be a very unlucky coach today to get a 100% win rate but only one game to your name. There's only one coach in Origin history that hasn't won a game, but the coach that only coached one game is untouchable statistically

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