'Kiwis think they're better than us': Eddie turns up heat on Bledisloe rivals saying 'country sinks' when ABs lose

By Christy Doran / Editor

It’s not just the All Blacks’ international reputation at stake but New Zealand’s economy, too.

That’s the opinion of Eddie Jones, who was at his provocative best on Thursday morning as the Wallabies coach turned up the heat on his New Zealand rivals ahead of his return to the Bledisloe cauldron.  

“There’s nothing better than winning against New Zealand because you feel the country sinking, right?” Jones claimed.

“It’s not just rugby sinks, the country sinks. The whole economy goes down. The Prime Minister is there with his fingers crossed, hoping the All Blacks win, because he knows the economy is going to drop if they lose. So we can have that effect.”

Wallabies coach Eddie Jones says New Zealand sinks when the All Blacks lose. (Photo by Daniel Pockett/Getty Images)

Jones knows better than most how seriously rugby is taken across in the Shaky Isles.

It was four years ago his English-coached side shocked the All Blacks to bundle them out at the semi-final stage of the 2019 World Cup, with a magnificent performance in Japan.

As a result, the New Zealand Herald’s Sunday edition summed up the gloomy feeling by blacking out their Herald on Sunday edition.

Accompanying the blacked-out front page, the newspaper added: “The All Blacks are out of the World Cup. If you want to read more, go to the sports section.”

After seven years coaching England, Jones looked at home preparing to mastermind the Wallabies’ Bledisloe Cup series and said it was more meaningful coaching his nation.

“It is mate, because it is your own country. It means a lot more,” he said after making seven changes to his starting side.

“Without devaluing coaching England. I enjoyed coaching England, I loved them, a good bunch of players, but you know imagine Saturday night 85,000 people there. The biggest rugby crowd since 2007 and they’ve come to watch two teams that have good respect for each other but at the same time they dislike each other.”

At his antagonistic best, Jones said New Zealand didn’t respect the Wallabies – and never had.

“There’s nothing better than Australian rugby taking on New Zealand rugby,” Jones said.

“Because the New Zealanders all think they’re better than us. They always have. So we get an opportunity.”

Wallabies coach has got on the front foot as his side prepares to take on the All Blacks at the MCG. (Photo by Brendon Thorne/Getty Images)

Despite consecutive defeats to start his second tenure in charge of the Wallabies, Jones has got on the front foot and put the All Blacks on watch.

It’s a theme he continued ahead of Saturday’s Bledisloe opener at the MCG, which acts as the third match of the Rugby Championship.

“When you’re playing against them, not many people think you can win. So that’s the opportunity for us,” he said.

The All Blacks’ stunning start to their Rugby Championship campaign, where Ian Foster’s side have twice raced out of the blocks with blistering precision and physicality, has added weight to the argument the Wallabies are little chance of ending their 21-year Bledisloe drought.

Asked how confident he was about his side’s ability to match the All Blacks if they came out with the same accuracy in front of an estimated 85,000 people at the MCG, Jones refused to take a backward step.

“Everyone wants to play at pace, they’re not the only team to have a mortgage on pace,” he said.

“But Australia v NZ at the Melbourne Cricket Ground, it’ll be a different sort of game.”

On the bold selection of halves Tate McDermott and Carter Gordon, Jones said their selections reflected the style of play the Wallabies want to play.

“We want to play at pace, which I know New Zealand think they’ve got a mortgage on it, but other teams can play at pace, but we feel it’s good to play Tate and Carter together,” he said.

Carter Gordon will make his starting debut for the Wallabies against the All Blacks at the MCG. (Photo by Brendon Thorne/Getty Images)

Last year Jones’ English side rallied from 25-6 down to produce a dramatic, stunning final 10 minutes to level up the game by scoring three quick tries.

The late comeback came off the back of an up-tempo style, where England threw everything at their opponents with nothing to lose.

Jones said his history, where he famously masterminded another stunning World Cup boilover against the All Blacks in the 2003 World Cup semi-final, was important against New Zealand but shot down suggestions it was only Australia who could match their trans-Tasman neighbours for pace and skill.

“We never think that,” he responded to a New Zealand reporter.

“We’re an Australian team, we’re developing as a team, can we put the Kiwis under pressure on Saturday, yes. And maybe they’re going to get a surprise.

“I can see the way you’re sitting here and thinking what is this bloke talking about. How can this Australian team do it? The All Blacks have been fantastic for the first two games and you have been mate. But you’re still fans with keyboards, right? Nothing’s changed.”

Eddie Jones has questioned New Zealand Rugby’s decision to move Ian Foster on following this year’s World Cup. (Photo by Hagen Hopkins/Getty Images)

Jones added that New Zealand Rugby had bowed to external pressure by naming Scott Robertson as Foster’s successor following the World Cup.

“Yeah, [I] don’t mind having a glass of red with him, he’s a good man,” Jones said.

“As I said at the time, I really felt for him. He had a board that reacted to media pressure, the appointment of a coaching job. He could go on and produce one of the greatest All Black teams, and then his fate’s already sealed.

“I think that’s why we’ve seen a different approach from New Zealand this year. Normally in a World Cup year they’re very measured in their build-up and they want to peak at the World Cup. But I think because of the situation maybe they’ve taken a different approach, and I’ve never seen a New Zealand team come out in a Rugby Championship ready to go straight away, fly in, and we’ve seen that in the first two games.

“Probably the first two 40 minute [periods] they’ve played have been some of the best rugby we’ve seen for a while, and maybe that’s got to do with the coach appointment because I know the players value him greatly as a coach and we all know he’s a good rugby man. So they’re playing with a lot of passion, a lot of drive and a lot of direction, for us it’s the ultimate test.”


The Crowd Says:

2023-07-31T07:33:49+00:00

jimmy jones

Roar Rookie


He's pointing out obvious historical relevance.. it was true back in the 00's and nz is still in dire straights economically so its still applicable.. nothing to be too concerned about.

2023-07-30T02:21:16+00:00

Brett305

Roar Rookie


I watched the game and thought the kiwis are just better rugby players…simple..

2023-07-29T23:54:19+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Perhaps feel for someone before bagging their whole nation out. Its a lot more real than some post-game thrashing feelings that didnt exist when all the garbage talk was going on from your coach. It was thoroughly deserved alright and the best Karma of all. Perhaps a less derogatory lead-up to the next match would be appreciated. And who'se economy benifitted last night? Aussies did by the tune of over 83000 attendee's which was fantastic and all you have is to try to belittle the opponents and their whole country.

2023-07-29T21:20:29+00:00

TJ-Go Force!

Roar Rookie


I feel sorry for you mate. Well done on the win yesterday. Thoroughly deserved.

2023-07-29T17:08:09+00:00

P2R2

Roar Rookie


OUCH!!!!! got that one terribly WRONG - Meeee and Mr Jones Mr Jones Mr Jones....you gotta thing going on....WBs played really well in patches but could not convert.....now INJURIES, not sure why TUPOU was brought on....and Alan - how bad is his injury....lot s of worries now Mr Jones

2023-07-29T14:14:31+00:00

Atlas

Roar Rookie


Quoting the the New Zealand Herald as if it matters. Despite its rather grand name, it has an audited circulation of four percent 4% of the country's population (2002 figure). More read it online of course, but don't get carried away thinking it's the national news source.

2023-07-29T06:56:02+00:00

Paulo

Roar Rookie


Nah, that whole economy thing is decades old too. It was relevant the last time EJ coached the Wallabies successfully, but not anymore. While there are extensive studies showing public mood has impacts on economic markers like the stock exchange, it’s a stretch to say an AB loss means a drop in the economy, especially now. The last time a proper study was done was like 2001 I think? That was a different time. NZ is also essentially going through a recession, depending on how you want to measure things, so today an AB loss is pretty meaningless. People are more concerned about how to put food on the table and cover massive home loan rates.

2023-07-29T05:44:30+00:00

jimmy jones

Roar Rookie


Hes right about the economy part, the rest is likely to take pressure off his team

2023-07-29T04:37:50+00:00

WEST

Roar Guru


Can someone die of constipation??? I’m actually starting to get worried about how full of sht Eddie Jones is

2023-07-28T10:06:55+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


He needed a plan for if the semi plan worked... Sadly didnt have one.

2023-07-28T10:03:58+00:00

Loosey

Roar Rookie


I agree, that semi wasn't really a big one.

2023-07-28T10:03:20+00:00

Loosey

Roar Rookie


:laughing:

2023-07-28T10:01:50+00:00

piru

Roar Rookie


Then lost the final Who cares

2023-07-28T09:53:18+00:00

JeffRo

Roar Pro


Based on super Rugby form and opening two tests of the TRC, the contest isn't as anticipated as when Eddie J last coached the Wallabies. My personal interest and anticipation of the Bledisloe, if I'm honest has waned over the years, as apart from an odd upset, it's largely been one way traffic. But EJ, has drawn me in to the build up more this year than I've been invested in a number of years and for that alone l think he is good for the game in our part of the world. As for the game, I am confident of an All Black victory over a series, but the Wallabies are capable of upsetting the apple cart in any given game. With the game being in Melbourne, Wallabies having nothing to lose and the All Blacks yet to be under pressure this year, I'm looking forward to it. Hope to see the All Blacks go further in proving the fragility of the last couple of years is largely behind them and they will be real contenders heading into the big show in a few weeks.

2023-07-28T09:26:38+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Yes he wins the ones before the big games. Never the big ones.

2023-07-28T09:19:02+00:00

Loosey

Roar Rookie


But that 2019 semi. Woof!

2023-07-28T08:47:29+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Foster has a better coaching record than Eddie does anyway Coker. Yet Aus just hired eddie.

2023-07-28T08:39:42+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


His record is worse than Foster's Neutral. When you consider that he had a 71% winning record coach Japan against predominantly teir 2-3 test sides, his record is probably over stated anyway.

2023-07-28T08:30:21+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


He's had years of practice JD.

2023-07-28T08:28:07+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Did you see the grinding and gnashing of teeth when a NZ variety tv commentator said QC wasnt very good? You are here so you must have seen it. I wondered why you have a blue face and facial nerve damage. :laughing:

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