Good, the bad, the Eddie: You've lost respect, rugby - and the Wallaby leader of the next generation

By Tony Harper / Editor

While the atmosphere has been excellent throughout the World Cup tournament, there is one aspect causing some consternation for purists.

Wallabies coach Eddie Jones was the subject of intense feral booing last week when his face went up on the big screen in the match against Portugal. While usually it’s mainly opposition fans giving him the jeers, the Tv footage showed Australians adding to the din.

Beyond that personal attack, we have seen a complete breakdown of respect for goal kickers. The big screens in the stadia send a message to ‘Respect the Kicker’ ahead of goal attempts – but every shot is now accompanied by a deluge of booing.

Respectful silence during kicks has been an admirable facet of rugby – and not that far in the past – but things are changing.

So far, the respectful co-mingling of rival fans in the stands and in the streets before and after a match, continues but is it over dramatic to think this could be the next rugby trait to fall? Other codes are forced to separate fans and cram the streets with riot cops. Let’s hope rugby can maintain its sense of fraternity.

Jones, meanwhile, had an interesting spin on the booing, blaming it on refereeing and the TMO.

“Rugby has been a game based on values – and fair play has been one of them. The way the game is being refereed is causing crowd problems. We have got so many stoppages in the game now. We had a TMO for everything. I am of the firm opinion that we are destroying the flow of the game,” said Jones.

“We need to make the referee the sole judge of the game and if there is something that is an obvious red card, that is foul play, then go back to that. We have got to keep the game moving.

“I think part of it is with the crowd is that there is so much discontent with the flow of the game. I don’t know how many minutes they spent with the TMO on the [Portugal] maul try. It was obvious it was a no try so why do we have to watch replays and replays of it?

“Our game is not a game of science. It’s not like cycling or rowing. It’s a human game based on the contest for the ball. I’ve said this before and I know it’s falling on deaf ears, but I’ll keep going. We have got to look after the game and the way we support the game is important too.”

The competition is also struggling with a key area of the modern world – how to handle social media.

World Rugby has been ruthless in removing social media clips of the tournament – a move that has angered rugby focussed content producers who use game footage to bring the tournament to life.

The argument is that in a World Cup struggling for mainstream acceptance, the sharing of great tries and big moments can only help grow the excitement and interest in the tournament, as well as build the knowledge base for fans everywhere.

But almost as soon as clips are shared the WR rights department has them ripped down.

This reached a ludicrous level on Wednesday when Wayne Barnes – one of the top few referees in the game, and a lawyer, posted a clip from a game he refereed last week that he said showcased a “very classy” moment of sportmanship from a player he had just yellow carded.

Instead WR blocked the video that was shared thousands of times on Barnes’ Twitter account.

The good…

Booing Eddie aside, the Portuguese fans were a lot of fun and danced and chanted for hours ahead of the game outside the Stade Geoffroy-Guichard in Saint Etienne. They waved placards including one that taunted Wallabies fans with the claim that “Ronaldo is bigger than Australia.”

There has been some debate too on French neutrals breaking into loud renditions of their national anthem “La Marseillaise” – like a sonic Mexican Wave.

While this writer has found it a powerful and enjoyable statement, it’s fair to say The Roar’s Harry Jones has the opposite opinion railing against “this anthem wankery”.

Bell of the ball

With Australia looking likely for an early exit there have clearly been quite a few disappointments. But along with that, some players have really stood up in the past month.

Young prop Angus Bell has been among Australia’s best but also brutally honest about the team and its odd lack of fortitude under pressure at times.

“We’ve got to turn into a team that fights. There’s been moments this year where we haven’t,” Bell said after the win over Portugal.

He should be the cornerstone of whichever coach comes in next if Eddie does indeed depart.

“It’s exciting times. Obviously, we’ve got a few young blokes in the team. And I’ll be 26 when that World Cup comes around, and hopefully I’m still running around,” said Bell.

‘Beautiful image of community”

While there have been issues with fans not showing complete respect, you can only applaud the way players have been with each other.

The scenes at the end of that epic Fiji win over Georgia were raw and packed with emotion. Fiji scrambled the ball dead as Georgia hunted the try that would have won the game and given Australia a better chance of progressing. Players from both teams were out on their feet but the Fijians moved quickly to console their beaten rivals.

There were similar scenes at the end of the Tonga vs. South Africa game, where the players linked together in a huge circle and prayed together.

“I was struck by the image of the South African and Tongan players gathering together at the end of their match to celebrate the contest they had just experienced for 80 minutes: a beautiful image of community and unity between competitors,” said tournament chairman Jacques Rivoal.

“We have seen similar scenes in the fan zones, with the singing of the Welsh fans mixing with others, wonderful rugby gestures and a sense of community.”

Former Springbok Schalk Brits, speaking on the official World Cup podcast said: “I suppose that is the beauty about rugby if you compare it to any other sports. Although you try to smash the living crap out of each other for 80 minutes afterwards you often have a beer together after the game.

“They prayed together and they probably had a couple of cold ones. That is what rugby is all about. I can remember playing against a lot of guys and thinking they are an absolute … but after you have a beer with the guy and you think he’s just like me. He is very competitive, he wants to win the game but afterwards you relax and have one of these [beer].”

Earl takes the mickey

England forward Ben Earl has copped plenty for his over-elaborate celebrations of some rather mundane acts during a game – like winning a penalty or turnover, or even an opponent’s incorrect lineout throw.

But Earl has shown himself to be a good sport about the backlash after it was suggested he would celebrate the opening of a pack of chips.

The bad

As good as the ending was to that Fiji-Georgia thriller it featured one of the most baffling moments of the tournament so far, when English referee Karl Dickson opted not to go to TMO and rule a forward pass that prevented a Georgian try moments before halftime. A 9-0 lead could easily have become 16-0.

You can only imagine how the Aussies, watching the game from their team base, reacted when Dickson made the hasty call – which aerial footage later suggested he’d got wrong.

Even if he felt the ball went forward why not give everyone an opportunity and send it upstairs?

Fair play to Georgia’s coach and players who opted not to blow up about the call post-match.

Tragedy for Fiji

The World Cup was rocked by news that Fiji flyer Josua Tuisova’s son died while the star player was in France.

Just hours before the Georgia game the giant centre was told his his seven-year-old son had died in Fiji after a long-term illness.

Tuisova opted to stay with the team to bid for a quarterfinal place.

And the Eddie

With a full block of Eddie up earlier in this story, let’s keep this one brief.

While the Australian coach was battling tempests on two fronts – will he stick around to honour his contract, and why has his 2023 team failed? – Eddie still managed to slip a one-liner into his post-match press conference.

“Do you want to know where I’m going to go? I’ll have to make something up as I have no idea at this stage… Maybe take some kava to Fiji, maybe that might work,” he joked when asked about his plans for the mini-break this week.

“I’m thinking of giving Marika (Koroibete) and (Suliasi) Vunivalu credit cards.”

Fiji assistant Brad Harris joked back: “We will take Eddie’s credit card after we beat Portugal. Pass that back to Eddie, we’ll take his credit card to buy some kava for our team function.”

The Crowd Says:

2023-10-06T11:54:11+00:00

jameswm

Roar Guru


True

2023-10-06T10:11:45+00:00

Blink

Roar Rookie


Gotta say. It's a hopeless World Cup as compared to soccer. So boring. So long between games. It needs to be done in a month. Two games a week. It is a long yawn. The ODI cricket will match it.

2023-10-06T01:30:15+00:00

Randy Ruga

Roar Rookie


However he comes across as being more mature, grounded, competitive and sets high standards of himself.

2023-10-05T21:03:40+00:00

scrum

Roar Rookie


How about acting as adults all round. Feral behaviour is OK at sport but nowhere else, is that the story.

2023-10-05T21:01:53+00:00

scrum

Roar Rookie


As I said that’s not the point. How hard is it to exhibit a bit of sportsmanship or in reality a standard of behaviour expected in society. Why is it that this sort of behaviour is OK at sport and nowhere else. So much for sport supposedly being good for kids when they see adults behaving as immature ferals , but Oh!! At a footy game so we can be obnoxious as we like.

2023-10-05T19:31:25+00:00

jameswm

Roar Guru


As an ex-kicker, the booing never worried me.

2023-10-05T19:30:44+00:00

jameswm

Roar Guru


He’s only 22, but it’s tempting.

2023-10-05T19:29:56+00:00

jameswm

Roar Guru


Exactly - why would people benefiting from the broken system change that system? Sad to hear but exactly as I suspected.

2023-10-05T14:07:21+00:00

ScouseinOz

Roar Rookie


Nah it's a weird fetish of theirs. They have a Tannoy speaker shushing the crowd before a kick. They still boo opposition players all the time and shout "off, off, off" if a replay is shown on big tv of one of their players taking any contact. Either be sporting or don't but don't act self-righteous over one part of fan behaviour. It's pretentious. I remember them booing the Welsh kicker in 2012 after they kicked a penalty, because apparently it should not have been given :laughing:

2023-10-05T10:20:00+00:00

Passit2me

Roar Rookie


Hey AA, thx for that, I appreciate your sentiments. Unfortunately, our dip in performance has been going on for over 20 years, and it has been ridiculous for the last 10. Speaking to a Waratah trainer who used to help out at a school rugby team I coached for a season, Nepotism is rife in the organisation, and without a single coach on the RA board, our integrity of selection is absolutely shot. As much as old Alan Jones has often contradicted himself when criticising RA, his broad assessment of the board and the organisation is absolutely spot on. It pains me a little to say that, but he’s right. The cancerous rot has been allowed to weave its way through, and it shows on the field (has been for 2 decades). While this culture is allowed to continue, human nature of survival (protecting themselves and their own), will continue to undermine decisions made and results seen. It’s an unavoidable truth. Unfortunately, I think this board will work hard to make improvements, but only in so much as it doesn’t compromise their self interests (too much). IE, we will move from a grade of “F”, to a grade of “C”, never getting back to an “A” like the old days.

2023-10-05T10:10:53+00:00

Big Dave

Roar Rookie


Yeah I've been there. It's kind of eerie. But still more distracting than normal cheering.

2023-10-05T10:02:41+00:00

MW7

Roar Rookie


The carry on about the booing the kicker seems a bit over the top. The same fans that shake their head and condone it, will jeer a bad ref decision, boo the villain on the opposition and cheer a mistake made by a rival player.

2023-10-05T09:57:55+00:00

AgainAgain

Roar Rookie


And that's fair comment Scrum and I totally agree about NZ fans, coaches and media piling into refs, but in saying that I have called that out too when coaches like Jason Holland blamed the ref, for the Hurricanes losing. As you say, however, it is not a NZ thing and saying because you are a kiwi, you can't comment isn't right or reasonable. I comment based on my own standards and values which may or may not be in line with others as do you and all the others who post on forums like this. When I see a number of people posting the same thing and sportswriters pushing it, then speaking out about it can't be wrong merely because of where I was born.

2023-10-05T09:22:35+00:00

Christy Doran

Editor


Good from Brad Harris. Enjoyable read once again T Harps

2023-10-05T09:14:13+00:00

scrum

Roar Rookie


Nah , it’s pretty impressive when you watch a Test at Lansdowne Rd. The Irish, who have very competitive natures, set a brilliant example.

2023-10-05T09:11:41+00:00

Megeng

Roar Rookie


I'm not on board with the booing. This week Man U were booed off after a continental loss. It seems to me that many self righteous fans expect their team to win all the time and that can't happen. Someone has to be at the bottom and we can't all be at the top all of the time. I prefer the old fashioned approach to having a team where you followed the tigers week in and will out with no expectation of greatness. When it did come in 2005, it created no expectations of continued glory. We're all too smart for that.

2023-10-05T09:01:03+00:00

Big Dave

Roar Rookie


I'm happy to say that all booing is bad, just arguing that this whole "you must be silent while the kicker kicks" thing is just a bit weird.

2023-10-05T08:53:06+00:00

In From The Side

Roar Rookie


Eddie deserves everything he gets with his crap attitude and smart @rse BS. He is an embarrassment to Australia and making us the laughing joke of the tournament. This is going to have long lasting issues, especially when all those people who spent thousands to go to the tournament come home and don’t buy season passes and don’t go to the ground to watch their team and the Wallabies play. People who think that Australian rugby has reached the bottom need to watch out, there’s plenty further to fall yet

2023-10-05T08:42:12+00:00

scrum

Roar Rookie


The abuse toward match officials is a growing trend which is disappointing. They are in a no win situation. Everybody complains about the TMO interference until their team is affected. The punters then do a 180 and want the TMO more involved. But in my opinion NZ fans have a very poor record of Ref bashing and are not in a position to be critical of others.

2023-10-05T08:26:12+00:00

East Coast Aces

Roar Rookie


I don't feel sorry for Eddie at all. He's been completely rediculous in the media all year. You gotta take the good with the bad if you want to stir the pot. Quade Cooper was booed non stop by the crowd in 2011 and he hadn't said anything publicly to bring it on. In terms of crowd noise for the kicker. I thought it was a regional difference type thing. some crowds like in Ireland stay quiet but since I was a little kid at Ballymore we always stomped as hard as possible on the tin grandstand for away kickers shots at goal.

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