How McLennan departure could help Wallabies land ex-Ireland, All Blacks coach as Eddie's replacement

By Christy Doran / Editor

Hamish McLennan’s departure as Rugby Australia chairman could clear the path for respected international coach Joe Schmidt to take over from Eddie Jones and take the Wallabies through to the next World Cup.

It comes after former All Blacks head coach Ian Foster and his assistant, Schmidt, were also linked to a role at French Top 14 side Montpellier.

Schmidt, 58, is off contract with New Zealand Rugby after being a key figure in the All Blacks’ run to the World Cup final last month and is believed to be considering jumping back into the coaching fray.

The Roar understands that Schmidt, who has coached all around the world including in France with Clermont, Leinster as well as taking Ireland to two World Cups, would consider coaching the Wallabies.

All Blacks assistant coach Joe Schmidt (C) is understood to be interested in taking over from Eddie Jones as Wallabies coach. (Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

The former Ireland coach, who returned to New Zealand and stepped away from coaching following the 2019 World Cup, was one of the key figures in the All Blacks’ turnaround over the past 18 months.

After the All Blacks’ shock 2-1 home series defeat to Ireland in July last year, Schmidt was brought onto the New Zealand coaching team alongside forwards coach Jason Ryan. It came after returning to the Blues in Super Rugby.

Both were viewed as key figures in the turnaround of the three-time world champions, with the detail and nous returning to the All Blacks’ game. That’s an aspect that was severely missing in the Wallabies’ performances in 2023.

But with Foster not reapplying for the All Blacks coaching job, Scott Robertson was appointed as his successor earlier in the year and Super Rugby’s most successful boss has brought with him his own team. That doesn’t include Schmidt.

Following Jones’ dramatic resignation, which came after the Wallabies won just two of nine Tests in 2023 and missed the knockout stage of the World Cup for the first time, RA is on the hunt for a new head coach.

First, however, RA has made it clear that they want to appoint the head coach after appointing a new director of high-performance, who will lead the charge to find Jones’ replacement over the next three months.

“We haven’t gone to market for the Wallaby coach and we won’t until we place the high performance director,” new RA chairman Daniel Herbert said on Monday.

“I’ve been trying to get the message across that changing a coach doesn’t fix what’s going on right now. I know it makes people feel better if we’ve got a certain coach in place for a period of time, but eventually the scoreboard comes into play. And that’s when you get found out.

“We can’t take a short-term focus and we have to put the foundations in place and that starts with a good high-performance director that can come in and then run the process to find the coach, and make sure that we find the right fit for our playing group and the right person who can address some of the some of the team’s shortcomings of late.”

Newly appointed Rugby Australia Chair Daniel Herbert says he wants to appoint a new director of high-performance to lead the hunt for the Wallabies’ next head coach. (Photo by Albert Perez/Getty Images)

Former Sydney University head coach Billy Millard, who is the current director of rugby at English Premiership side Harlequins, is understood to be one of the leading contenders to fill the role.

While Ireland head of high performance David Nucifora, who worked with RA briefly alongside Robbie Deans, will depart his role midway through next year, it’s unlikely he will apply for the role despite likely returning to Australia following the Paris Olympics.

Former Ireland and Melbourne Rebels analyst Eoin Toolan said there would be no shortage of candidates applying for the role, but advocated for a Schmidt-Nucifora package deal.

“I’ve got to say, I think the job Joe Schmidt did with New Zealand… I don’t think they’re making a World Cup final if Joe Schmidt doesn’t come in and bail out Ian Foster,” Toolan said on the Rugby Weekly Extra podcast.

“That would be an intriguing appointment, particularly if it was in tandem with David Nucifora. We saw the positive impact they had on Irish rugby.”

Former Ireland head coach Joe Schmidt was influential in helping the All Blacks turn around their inconsistent form. (Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

The hunt for the two roles comes after McLennan was ousted on Sunday night following the Wallabies’ worst year since the game turned professional.

That could help RA’s endeavour to encourage candidates to apply for the role, with sources telling The Roar some would be reluctant to accept a role whilst McLennan was in the job. That extends to Schmidt.

Part of the reason for the reluctance comes after McLennan led the charge to bring Jones back as Wallabies coach at the expense of New Zealander, Dave Rennie.

McLennan had also made it clear during his time as RA chair that he thought it was advantageous to have an Australian coaching the Wallabies given the cultural differences between countries.

While it is still RA’s preference to have an Australian take over as Wallabies coach, it’s understood Herbert just wants the best candidate – regardless of where they are from – to take over as national coach. Herbert’s consistent stance that axing the head coach does little to solve the “systemic problems” in Australian rugby will only reassure applicants even further.

With two showpiece global events to be played on Australian shores over the next four years, including the British and Irish Lions tour in 2025 and Rugby World Cup 2027, RA believes the Wallabies coaching job will be highly sought after despite the calamitous year and Jones’ ugly departure.

Former Brumbies coach Dan McKellar, who is less than six months into his three-year deal with Leicester, is another strong candidate to take over from Jones.

The Roar first reported last month that McKellar has an exit clause in his deal to allow him to return to Australia if RA wants him.

Former Wallabies assistant Dan McKellar remains a strong contender to replace Eddie Jones. (Photo by Jono Searle/Getty Images)

Current Brumbies coach Stephen Larkham, who was Michael Cheika’s long-time assistant with the Wallabies and was in the role when the two-time world champions made the 2015 final, is another candidate and recently said he would “love to be involved” in helping Australian rugby.

“I’m certainly interested in trying to help rugby in Australia,” Larkham said.

Larkham, who led the Wallabies to World Cup glory in 1999 as the side’s fly-half, would be the simplest solution for the role given he is only contracted with the Brumbies through until the end of the 2024 Super Rugby season.

Former Fiji head coach Simon Raiwalui, who was nominated as World Rugby coach of the year in 2023 and was Cheika’s assistant at the 2019 World Cup, ruled out being in the running to take over from Jones earlier in the month. His next job, possibly with World Rugby, is likely to be unveiled in the coming weeks.

Former Wallabies coach Michael Cheika is another option, with the 2015 World Rugby coach of the year weighing up his future with Argentina.

Yet, given the messy circumstances surrounding his departure at the end of 2019, as well as the circus surrounding Jones’ departure, it’s unlikely RA would seriously consider him so soon following another turbulent year in the game’s history.

RA wants to have its new Wallabies head coach in place by the time Super Rugby gets underway on February 23.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2024-01-19T02:37:51+00:00

Christy Doran

Editor


Dreaming, hey?

2023-11-28T00:50:54+00:00

fiwiboy7042

Roar Rookie


Oz media coverage of the JS reign in Ireland was non-existent hence why he is being judged by his deeds in the SR and with the ABs.

2023-11-27T23:10:42+00:00

P2R2

Roar Rookie


He doesnt need a job in Australia....who would

2023-11-27T23:09:07+00:00

P2R2

Roar Rookie


Not sure TWAS he wants to coach international rugby - he has family commitments, said so when he was approached by NZR - said he would only do it until end of RWC..... I think AUS need to find their OWN (as in AUSTRALIAN) coach.....otherwise its too easy to fire them and bring Eddie back....

2023-11-27T23:06:17+00:00

P2R2

Roar Rookie


Why would Joe want to go to RA as Coach given the way RA deals with NZ Coaches....find your own....

2023-11-27T18:10:19+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


I am not sure how the JS regin in Ireland was covered in Oz media but he is adverse to risk and believes you are better to kick when in certain areas. If you didn't like Eddie you will like JS less. Players still can't kick or run a breakdown which means either lots of broken eggs or magically SRP produces a different type of player. Look how NZ played when he came on board.

2023-11-27T06:12:50+00:00

DaveJ

Roar Rookie


“We haven’t gone to market for the Wallaby coach”. Ouch, yuk, ugh, wash your mouth out. As for “cultural differences” between Australia and NZ – Jeezus H. Effing C! Some people need to get out more. Unless he means Kiwis are more used to winning at rugby. But Farrell (a Pom) has done well with Ireland, with much bigger such differences, as have the likes of Gatland with Wales, and dare I say Rennie with Aus? P.S. What happened to the CEO of RA? Why are the chairmen pontificating about about these management decisions all the time now?

2023-11-26T14:13:12+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


This is such an insane comment. Without Skelton La Roche and Saracens might be without a few Heinecken cups - the man wins forward battles just by himself ...

2023-11-26T01:03:57+00:00

fiwiboy7042

Roar Rookie


Isn't Mickey Mouse already director of high performance, RD? Or is it Goofy? :stoked:

2023-11-26T01:03:10+00:00

Passit2me

Roar Rookie


Yes, but driven by Hamish.

2023-11-26T01:02:32+00:00

fiwiboy7042

Roar Rookie


AA, the man is a dinosaur and not just in terms of his age! Keep AK in the far outer paddocks where he has been sent!

2023-11-26T00:59:27+00:00

fiwiboy7042

Roar Rookie


The optics of an IF/JS coaching combo for the Wallabies would be bad indeed. This would really drive the point home about how wretched RA's governance has been! :shocked:

2023-11-26T00:11:46+00:00

Biscuit man

Roar Rookie


What we have discovered the holy grail to turn S^& into caviar? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

2023-11-25T22:09:35+00:00

Hughi

Roar Rookie


I think policy has to be implemented in RA to standardize coach rotation on a 2 monthly basis, new Wallabies selection to start by bringing in a whole new squad of young players one week before the Bledsloe kick-off. We then change the whole RA board every month we aren't changing coach. With the new 80 ml loan we put 60 ml into lotto tickets to raise more funding and the other 20 into fishing trips out of Darwin. The next thing is to introduce a new royal role to RA, Emperor of Rugby, we will get Eddie back to fill that role, his main job will be to maintain a constant media presence through an endless session of crazy decisions and foreign relations which he constantly denies. Next, we bring Hamish back and set him up in a seaside villa on Manus Island from here he will oversee the whole of RA but unfortunately be cut off from all means of communication. The voices in my head please make them stop, I just want Rugby 2023 to end.

2023-11-25T22:07:09+00:00

Old Bugger

Roar Rookie


Irrespective of any aussie coach coming close or near to Razor's success, the point still remains - aussie rugby has to start somewhere, when looking inwards for coaching guidance, is all I'm saying. Perhaps, it's not just a fault of the farmer.....perhaps, the livestock just don't have, what is an absolute necessity???

2023-11-25T21:31:59+00:00

Objective Observer

Roar Rookie


I think you may find that all of the actions in the past were board decision, the whole point of a board is that one person does not make the decision. It reads like a new episode of Yes Minister.

2023-11-25T20:47:13+00:00

EWAF

Roar Rookie


Good point Luke. I can't believe Friend isn't being looked at...or maybe he is but not in this forum. The guy has had incredible success os. He took the minnows Connacht to places they had never been before with wins against Leinster, Ulster (great record against them), Munster, beating all three at their home grounds. Qualifying for knockouts of the HC and league. Great wins over Montpellier, Bordeaux, Lions, Perpignan, Sale, Bulls, Gloucester, Paris, Stromers, matching it with teams with far more strike power. Connacht played with a running style and a belief in themselves that was inspiring. Furthermore, he builds culture, promoting grassroots players, inspiring younger players to stay the course and buy-in to the club. He's off contract and ready to go.

2023-11-25T20:16:37+00:00

BBR

Roar Rookie


You can't do much about a red card. Your game plan has to change to accommodate that and it's almost impossible to get a result when you are a man down against a team like SA. Hardy Schmidt's fault.

2023-11-25T19:19:50+00:00

Phantom

Roar Rookie


Ryan made a huge difference as the forwards were clearly lacking. Schmidt not so much.

2023-11-25T19:17:40+00:00

Phantom

Roar Rookie


In his own mind.

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