Twist in NRL expansion debate as powerbrokers say ‘Aloha!’ to Dirty Reds return bid

By Redcap / Roar Guru

NRL expansion hopefuls in Perth, Port Moresby and North Sydney have been thrown into disarray by reports that the long-dormant Glebe Dirty Reds are set to throw their hat into the ring to be the NRL’s 18th team.

While a new team in Perth enjoys strong support and could open a new market for the game, the PNG option is backed by the Australian Government and the North Sydney Bears reportedly retain a significant fan base, the Dirty Reds’ bid is expected to erode the support of all other expansion hopefuls.

Sources close to the Dirty Reds have indicated the club was encouraged by the NRL’s recent interest in exploring the American market through the forthcoming fixtures in Las Vegas, with the bid’s impetus gathering pace after recent comments from Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) chair Peter V’landys opened the door to legacy bids.

And while the PNG and Bears’ bids dither over where their teams should be based, the Dirty Reds are set unveil a bold and definitive plan that avoids all the complications of blending a new location with an old team.

Say aloha to the Honolulu Dirty Reds.

The Dirty Reds will probably be forever associated with Glebe in Sydney’s inner-city and the club’s traditional home at Wentworth Park. So, why not take Wentworth Park with them?

Yes, that’s right, the plan is to relocate Wentworth Park to Honolulu where it will form the centrepiece of a new sport and leisure precinct, the Dirty Red Politburo; a ‘Little Glebe’ just a stone’s throw from the city’s tourist hotspots.

With this master plan, Dirty Reds officials think they’ve got the other bids covered, and they might just be right.

The island of Oahu is home to just under one million people, fewer than Perth but without the AFL, and close to a broader Hawaiian market of about half a million more potential Dirty Reds fanatics.

The USA remains a stable democracy, at least compared to PNG, and investment dollars are rife, so it would be an immensely attractive destination for top-end talent.

There’s no local NFL team, and it’s only a few hours more on the plane compared to the trip from Sydney to Perth.

University of Hawaii quarterback Ikaika Woolsey throws a pass (Photo: Jack Prichard)

A recent study identified tens of thousands of potential Dirty Reds supporters in Sydney, still seething at the club’s ongoing exclusion from the NRL, poised to provide a strong supporter base in Australia and drive even more tourism for and rugby league awareness in the American market.

The Dirty Reds seem to have all their bases covered and key players in the NRL expansion debate have already taken notice.

A spokesperson claiming to represent Prime Minister Anthony Albanese addressed rumours of the new expansion bid, stating that “the Albanese Government has made no secret of its support for an NRL team in PNG, but it would be great to see the Dirty Reds in the big league”.

“While PNG is a good fit with the government’s strategic objectives in the Pacific, the Dirty Reds’ proposal would pave the way for a whole-of-Pacific approach to rugby league diplomacy”.

“There’s more detail to work through, but the Government has alerted our AUKUS partners to the Dirty Reds bid and will consider resource allocation in due course”.

Sources near ARLC headquarters in Moore Park told media that upon hearing of the new bid, Mr V’landys told colleagues “Everywhere I go, people ask when are you bringing back the Dirty Reds? I didn’t realise they were a rugby league team”.

Anthony Albanese watches a South Sydney Rabbitohs NRL game at Accor Stadium, Australia. (Photo by Mark Metcalfe/Getty Images)

“They’ve got to be in the equation, and they can certainly be part of a new team, wherever they want, just so long as the Government’s paying for it…”

“Sorry, I mean they’re so passionate and it makes sense that we bring them back in some capacity, because they’ve got thousands of supporters. That’s important”.

“They did a study and showed they’d bring all these new people to rugby league. That’s vital. You want to bring the casual viewer in to become an engaged fan. The Dirty Reds have got that.”

Glebe were the first team to join the NSWRL in 1908 but were excluded from the competition after the 1928 season following a behind-the-scenes putsch orchestrated by then Balmain Secretary Bob Savage, breaking the hearts of the Dirty Reds’ faithful.

They were premiership finalists in 1911, City Cup winners in 1913 and produced one of rugby league’s 13 Immortals, the great try-scoring back-rower Frank Burge.

87 years after their exclusion, the Dirty Reds were reborn as part of the Glebe-Burwood Wolves and now compete in the Ron Massey Cup, where they’ve been regathering strength and preparing for a belated assault on the NRL.

When contacted (by himself) for comment about the Dirty Reds’ NRL bid, Roar Guru and outspoken proponent of ‘bringing back the Dirty Reds’, David Thompson was typically bullish.

“Look, the data indicates that many of Glebe’s original supporters have left us since 1928, but the club has clearly built a silent mass of supporters,” said Thompson, better known as Redcap.

“Since day one – and mark my words, we’ve been planning this for years – I’ve said we should go back to Glebe and slowly strangle the life out of Balmain and Souths, but apparently the NRL doesn’t consider expansion bids which are mostly about revenge. What can you do?”

“Perth and PNG will have their day. Norths were bloody useless when they were in the league, so why anybody in their right mind would want to bring that mob back is beyond me”.

“It’s time. Bring back the Dirty Reds. I’ll go to Hawaii if I have to, as long as the old ground is there, and we can still stuff Balmain or whatever they’re called this week. Souths too!”

With the NRL’s current broadcast deal expiring at the end of 2027, bringing the Dirty Reds back exactly 100 years after their exclusion would be fitting.

Can Perth, PNG and the Bears stop the Dirty Reds revival? Good luck to them.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2024-02-20T02:47:55+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


"Would Glebe consider coming back in as an interstate team? Not from what is above." I recommend having another look at what's above. :happy:

2024-02-20T02:06:31+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


It's satire.

2024-02-20T01:53:19+00:00

Cadfael

Roar Guru


Can't see it. There are presently nine Sydney clubs out of `17 clubs in the NRL. That is more than half the sides are in Sydney. So no way will the NRL include another Sydney based side. Ideally, existing Sydney sides should look at relocating but this won't happen. Would Glebe consider coming back in as an interstate team? Not from what is above.

AUTHOR

2024-02-19T04:12:58+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


I'm finding a few curly ones in the early BRL chaos - of course the belt was in play in the infamous Ricketty Johnson affair, and then in another disputed game in 1925. The BRL's fun!

AUTHOR

2024-02-19T02:20:46+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


I'm not sure we know what the NRL's preferred choice is - there seems to be a bit of cat-and-mouse and subtle messaging going on behind the scenes. I actually think the government is quite happy to keep the possibility of an NRL team dangling in-front of PNG for a while yet. They don't urgently need there to be a team; just the plausible prospect of one. It's also possible the recent unrest in PNG might actually make a PNG/Pacific team more likely in the short-term as it strengthens the argument for any prospective team to be based in northern Australia and entirely subject to Australian jurisdiction. Like I say, though, it's hard to know.

2024-02-19T01:24:19+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


Forget some trophy of two muddy guys, the only thing worth competing for is the Challenge Belt!

2024-02-19T01:07:06+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


Bring Back The Bridget's

2024-02-19T01:04:21+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


I'd just have them play them play in one overly bloated, uneven division where there is no possible way that every team can play one another, and the match-ups are determined by arbitrary rankings. Imagine US College sport, but with much smaller crowds!

2024-02-19T00:37:00+00:00

Duncan Smith

Roar Guru


Glebe and Annandale are literally neighbours, taking up a combined length of about 3-4km. You can't get any more local derby than that. Let's hope they never merge!

2024-02-19T00:10:28+00:00

BeastieBoy

Roar Rookie


The NRL say they have a steady commercial hand and want to make sure bets one at a time when they expand. RECKON? Their current preferred choice because ALBO wants it.. is PNG. Is Peter V serious. TODAY.. More than 50 shot dead in Papua New Guinea ambush... Rioting and more Dead in Past Weeks. Corruption in high Places... Give this one a Miss... NEXT choice please..

AUTHOR

2024-02-19T00:02:40+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


The Dirty Bears in San Francisco. You're terrible, Tim! :laughing:

AUTHOR

2024-02-19T00:01:20+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


What about the pre-BRL teams? We don't want Milton, St Bridget's or North Brisbane B feeling jilted.

AUTHOR

2024-02-18T23:59:43+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


Balmain! We'll fry them and have them for breakfast like the schwein they are! We're largely indifferent toward Annandale, despite all that business with Laddo Davies in 1917.

2024-02-18T23:54:12+00:00

Duncan Smith

Roar Guru


I would like that. Then we could have four divisions and an FA cup like in English soccer.

2024-02-18T23:07:37+00:00

Ouch

Roar Rookie


I disagree it will be the end of the NRL. We are not talking rugby here. The NRL has exponentially more business acumen than RA. Besides, I believe the PNG govt will be assisting financially with a Moresby-based NRL side.

2024-02-18T22:08:47+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


Bring back all the extinct clubs, I say. Aside from the ones you mentioned, Cumberland, Newcastle Rebels, University, South Queensland, the Reds, Hunter Mariners, Adelaide, Gold Coast - Tweed Heads, Illawarra, St George (yes, they're extinct!), Norths, Western Suburbs, Northern Eagles, and the 87 or so clubs that ran around in the QRL and the BRL. Plus the two teams in the Wally Lewis Celebrity Challenge circa 1992, obviously.

2024-02-18T21:22:36+00:00

Nico

Roar Rookie


Too many expansion sides focus on potential junior numbers, while the genius of the Dirty Reds' bid is their potential niche focus on senior/geriatric/centenarian numbers, a truly untapped market, which let's face it, is where much more of the money is tied up. The rivalry with Balmain and Souths will be electric, I just fear there could he some competition with Annandale fans looking to resurrect their side after 104 years out of the comp, surely they've suffered long enough

2024-02-18T20:27:33+00:00

Duncan Smith

Roar Guru


Finally, the Dirty Reds are back. I want Newtown, Annandale, and Balmain back to for maximum derbies.

2024-02-18T18:55:37+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


You're close to the mark, but I have it on reliable authority (ie- none) that the side will be on mainland American soil and that North Sydney will also be involved. The San Francisco Dirty Bears will have a uniform that's both rugged and fabulous.

2024-02-18T09:40:17+00:00

Nick Maguire

Roar Rookie


Rob, My intel says he had arranged a Regional NSW funding grant for a "women's change room and 50m pool" to be built in Hawaii that would become home to a relocated Cronulla Sharks, so as to be close to his recently acquired holiday home. I don't know what to say, this source has been impeccable before so I'm going to go with it.

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