Prestige, but with a cost: Can A-League teams afford to play in Asian competitions?

By Cale Hellyer / Roar Rookie

For a long time, there has been a sense Australian football clubs don’t take Asian competition seriously enough. And when the other Asian countries who consistently perform well internationally, like Japan, South Korea, Saudi Arabia and Iran, also consistently have dominant clubs in Asian competition, it’s hard not to feel slightly jealous.

The Socceroos generally perform at a similar level to these countries, but the performances of our clubs in the Asian Champions League (ACL) are so far behind, we appear to be more of a footballing minnow nation. With a league system that produces far less money than the leagues in the aforementioned countries, it’s very tough to justify wanting to compete. A recent report by FIFPRO was a damning indictment on the financial incentive structure for clubs competing in the ACL.

Central Coast’s Jacob Farrell goes on a run against Brisbane Roar. (Photo by Scott Gardiner/Getty Images)

Many of us will remember back to the days of the Brisbane Roar selling a one-legged home ACL qualifier overseas so they wouldn’t have to eat the cost of hosting. They lost on penalties. One wonders if the club preferred that option.

Generally though, we don’t hear too much about the actual structure.

Chair of FIFPRO Asia/Oceania Takuya Yamazaki, argued that “the merits do not outweigh the drawbacks for most players and clubs, making it an unsustainable system”. And it’s little wonder.

Clubs travelling away from home in the ACL are given $60k USD to cover their expenses. This is often not enough. For example, an Australian club travelling to Japan – as Melbourne City did this year – costs around $100k USD even when flying economy, which is not the best option for high performance athletes.

Such a situation might have left Australian clubs short of necessary preparations when playing away from home in the past. Yes, other clubs have to deal with it too, but the A-League produces far less money than many others.

Even worse, Melbourne City says it costs around $50k USD to remove advertisements from their stadium. And then there’s the final kicker – host clubs must provide 5-star hotels for officials.

So let’s get this straight: clubs lose money on travel even after their travel allowance, they aren’t allowed to advertise, they have to pay extra money to host ACL officials, AND if clubs refuse to participate they face sanctions.

Brisbane Roar’s James O’Shea lobs over a corner. (Photo by Kelly Defina/Getty Images)

This is, diplomatically, an unsustainable situation. Someone must be profiting off the ACL, or else it wouldn’t exist. That clubs lose money just by being involved suggests the money distribution structure needs a serious overhaul.

Melbourne City competed reasonably well without shooting the lights out in their ACL group stage elimination. Central Coast and Macarthur are doing exactly what they should in the AFC Cup; a competition Australian clubs are way too good for. Instinctively, my reaction is that this is a positive – that Australian clubs doing well on the continental stage is great for the game. But is it?

Clubs are struggling to turn a profit in general, and basically no one attends these games anymore. Even Sydney FC and Melbourne Victory get crowds of around 5,000 when they qualify.

Hopefully the new, three-tiered system being introduced next season will allow for greater financial rewards for competing teams. It would be great to see our team compete well, but also be incentivised to actually want to compete well.

For now, though, the winner of Macarthur vs Central Coast in the AFC Cup on Thursday should probably go on to win the whole thing, but the loser will save money by being knocked out. That is not a sustainable incentive structure.

The Crowd Says:

2024-02-26T22:41:55+00:00

Ferno

Roar Rookie


Hopefully, Mariners are going to pocket 1.5 million and maybe people will understand the fun of a meritocratic system. Want money? Earn it! That is life.

2024-02-22T12:18:57+00:00

Brainstrust

Roar Rookie


AFC cup Zonal final 100k US Runner Up 750k US Winner 1.5 m US

2024-02-22T11:41:34+00:00

Brainstrust

Roar Rookie


MAriners looked like they wanted to win and Macarthur looked the reverse. Lachie Rose he seems to be a political prisoner of dodgy Sterkjovski. Sterjovski said Zad and Arnie hold my beer, I will show you how its done, then Rose scores a goal straight after he goes to a back 5 after getting rid of an attacker who has been on for 20 min. Mariners look on their last legs for the weekend. I dont understand how this Macarthur Squad keeps getting bigger and bigger. What does he want with Tommy Smith as well.

2024-02-22T11:15:51+00:00

Brainstrust

Roar Rookie


Wanderers could have made another 10 million by playing the semi final and final at the 80k Homebush. They were conned by a coach and other management who could have well been doing the bidding of the Eels and the Eels leagues club had 20-30 million more revenue that year with those sold out home games.

2024-02-22T10:52:00+00:00

Brendan

Roar Pro


There will be some tired legs this A-League weekend. Well done, Mariners.

2024-02-22T10:51:13+00:00

Jordan Sports Fan

Roar Rookie


Minimal prestige is involved because our teams do so consistently poorly in it. If our teams did consistently well in it like Japanese, Korean or Saudi teams did, it would be a different matter. Asian football is definetly building I think. Strong performances in last WC, a lot of solid crowds at Asian Cup, Japan beating Germany a couple of times, decent crowds in many ACL games now. Soon enough, AFC will have four teams competing in the Club World Cup against the giants of world football. Who wouldn’t want to be in that?

2024-02-22T10:48:27+00:00

Jordan Sports Fan

Roar Rookie


This is ideally what happens eventually. All of Oceania though not just NZ.

2024-02-22T04:02:30+00:00

Kitwally

Roar Rookie


True. Didn’t give much prestige or add to Wanderers’ support, but unless my memory deceives me, back in 2014 & 2015 almost all Wanderers’ home games were sold-out anyway(?). Wanderers winning the ACL against the odds did bring a measure of respect to Aussie football, as did Adelaide making the final in 2008.

2024-02-22T02:55:16+00:00

Kitwally

Roar Rookie


What is the prize money?

2024-02-21T23:47:51+00:00

Mister Football

Roar Guru


Prestige? I think the key point is that the hundreds of thousands of dollars in losses incurred in taking part in the comp is not worth it. Minimal prestige is involved. The Wanderers won it in their 2nd year of existence and it did not do anything for their level of support in Australia.

2024-02-21T23:26:43+00:00

Garry

Roar Rookie


split asia into 2 confeds and add NZ to ours.

2024-02-21T22:37:05+00:00

Brainstrust

Roar Rookie


If they go on to win the whole thing they get 1.5 million US. Macarthur and Gosford wont be in the same situation as at AAMI Stadium , I think Suncorp would be worse . The winner of the play off might have to spend more but they end making money if they make the final plus the cash for winning the playoff. Buriram an electricity company in Thailand and the Bakries who mine coal in Indonesia was a match made in heaven. In the early years Adelaide United would get games rescheduled for away games etc. There were endless articles if Adelaide United were denied any favourable treatment. Sydney FC recently they had to play a match the day before they left.

2024-02-21T22:23:34+00:00

Brendan

Roar Pro


A great article, thank you. Geographically, Australia isn’t the centre of Asian football, meaning travel costs are particularly steep for our Down Under representatives. On a domestic scale, I empathises with Glory, as they’re isolated in Perth.

AUTHOR

2024-02-21T22:04:58+00:00

Cale Hellyer

Roar Rookie


***I'm aware the the last point on Macarthur and CCM is incorrect. Information around prize money was made available after I wrote the article***

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