Discovering the blueprint for Super Rugby success: How Kiss managed to get away from a one-dimensional style

By W Evans / Roar Rookie

It may just be that Queensland have identified a coaching blue print for Australian Rugby to follow.

After spending 15 years serving an apprenticeship and becoming a master overseas, Les Kiss has returned looking by far the most equipped of the Australian provincial coaches.

That perhaps should not be surprising when you consider his resume which includes a stint under none other than Joe Schmidt with Ireland, time with the Springboks as well as eight years at Ulster and London Irish.

But a look beyond Kiss at his assistants, is both a rarity and instructive. There’s classic Northern Hemisphere Rugby grounding combined with Queensland grassroots and a liberal sprinkling of league.

Kissy’s assistants are arguably each more well-rounded coaches already than say Stephen Larkham, Simon Cron and Darren Coleman.

Before I go on, let me be clear. The Reds are not yet world beaters, Kiss would be the first to admit that they are 4 games into a long season.

That said, there is a noticeable change of approach up north in every aspect. From improved fitness to breakdown accuracy to ball distribution.

As John Ferguson highlighted last week, what is most significant is how the Reds are playing, not their position on the table. There is a clarity and conviction translating to execution.

After the Chiefs game, Kiss was asked to identify the most significant change made since his arrival to which he responded, “my assistants, they’ve been great.”

Reds Coach Les Kiss. (Photo by Bradley Kanaris/Getty Images)

So where did Kissy’s assistants come from, what is their story?

Those in the know claim Red’s skills coach Jonathan Fisher is one of English Rugby’s brightest coaching talents. If not for a twist of fate leading him to join Kiss at London Irish before that club’s insolvency, it’s doubtful Fisher would have landed with the Reds.

Fisher was schooled at the English rugby institution, Wellington College. He played for the First XV as both a lock and back row for two seasons, joining alumni such as James Haskell. Leo Tolstoy and George Orwell went there too.

It was after his schooling though where arguably Fisher really received his rugby education. Playing stints across Irish, Bedford Blues, Northampton and Bristol exposed him to a multitude of high-performance environments.

Jim Mallinder for example was Director of Rugby during Fisher’s time at Northampton. Later Mallinder would take prominent roles with both English and Scottish Rugby where he became Director of Performance in 2019.

After playing alongside established and street smart internationals like Dylan Hartley and Courtney Lawes for multiple seasons, Fisher was forced to retire at just 28 due to a severe concussion. The twist of fate that ultimately led him to take up coaching with Kiss at London Irish.

For four seasons, Fisher played a prominent and very successful role with Irish’s academy, under none other than Director of Rugby Declan Kidney.

In February 2020, he told the Times that coaching the London Irish U18s had made him fall in love with Rugby again. Before one match he said: “As a coach, you are always trying to sell a vision and are trying to engage the group…We have a great sense of transparency between coaching and playing groups, but honestly, that’s necessary to improve chances of decision-making in tough moments.”

Transparency, clarity, call it what you will. Fisher’s players know what is required of them and why.

(Photo by Albert Perez/Getty Images)

In contrast to Fisher, forwards coach Zane Hilton is less exotic, if you can call England that.

Hilton, if my memory serves me correctly, played hooker for Queensland Schoolboys in 1998 before beginning his rugby coaching career as manager of the Regional College for the Reds between 2002 and 2006. Stints in Italy and Japan followed before he became assistant to Toutai Kefu with Tonga.

When announcing Hilton’s appointment, Kiss said: “With his coaching experience, Zane has great knowledge of all levels of the game in Queensland including both club and Super Rugby. It’s great to see him return to his home state armed with the lessons he’s learnt over the years.”

In many ways, that’s an acknowledgment of just how important a grasp of local grass roots as well as professional rugby is. But it was also a nod to what is becoming increasingly obvious. Australian coaches are best served spending time overseas on extended apprenticeships in multiple environments.

When combined, Hilton and Fisher bring a diverse but complimentary skill set to Queensland. They make for a dynamic and relatively youthful duo already brimming with lessons learnt.

Working under people such as Mallinder, Kidney, Kefu and Kiss is invaluable. Coaching trees count.

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If Rugby Australia has any sense, they immediately would start sponsoring coaches to take up junior positions in England, Ireland or even New Zealand.

Pursuing reciprocal placements even for coaches like Mick Heenan would be wise.

Stephen Larkham had a hugely disappointing stint at Munster. When Larkham left, Gavin Cummiskey of the Irish Times commented that: “Stephen Larkham the player and Stephen Larkham the coach are two completely different entities, if Larkham was of the same coaching standard as Andy Friend we would have heard or seen it by now as an attack coach. We just simply haven’t. Now he’s off.”

Was handing Larkham the keys to one of Australian Rugby’s Crown Jewels after Munster wise? Was it really the blueprint for success?

Brad Davis of course rounds out the trio of assistants under Kiss. He infamously fell out with one Eddie Jones last year and was replaced by ‘Leaguies’. Oh the outrage.

The interesting thing is that like Les Kiss, Davis played League for 15 years, making 215 appearances in the English Super League before becoming predominantly a Defence Coach first at Bath and then at Wasps as well as Ospreys.

When Davis was released for a ‘secondment’ by Irish to pursue his stint with the Wallabies he said: “It’s a hugely exciting opportunity and I’m looking forward to gaining some fantastic experience from Eddie Jones and the rest of the Australia coaches. Like at London Irish, I will be working with an extremely talented group of players.”

We all know it didn’t work out and the reasons are far from clear. But that didn’t stop Kiss from reuniting with Davis more or less immediately.

Interestingly, Jones chose Davis as his attack coach whereas most of Davis’ experience was in defence. Is it a coincidence that the Reds now have an 85% tackle success rate and 95% ruck success rate?

Regardless, things are looking up.

One Roarer posted last week: “Ask yourself a couple of questions. Are the Reds good to watch this year? Are they playing with heart and fight? Are they the type of team that people want to watch and get behind? I think the answer to all three questions is yes. I am not a Queenslander, but I am actively checking the fixtures each week to pencil in watching them. Can’t say I have done that in a long time.”

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Well, that was three questions, but I am a Queenslander, and I couldn’t have said it better myself.

As an Australian desperate to see the Wallabies do well, I hope other states are paying close attention to what Les Kiss and his assistants are doing and how it is they got here.

The Crowd Says:

2024-03-21T07:30:47+00:00

Honest Max

Roar Rookie


AFAIK, Les Kiss never coached league - he played it. Same goes for Shaun Edwards, John Muggleton and Andy Farrell.

2024-03-21T07:29:12+00:00

Honest Max

Roar Rookie


I’d back the Reds and Canes over anyone in the Premiership.

2024-03-21T00:58:05+00:00

kingplaymaker

Roar Guru


The wider question this might raise is whether league coaches are better than rugby coaches and whether the body of ideas and development of coaches is simply superior as it has been professional for so much longer.

2024-03-21T00:04:03+00:00

Dualcode

Roar Rookie


Excellent article, now if only the RA bozos in charge took note ASAP.

2024-03-20T23:03:39+00:00

ShortBlind

Roar Rookie


Larkham could be the Wally Lewis of union (speaking about his fame as a player and ‘nothing burger’ as a coach). I’ve never rated Larkham as a coach – he was handed a well structured Brumbies system and players and has not improved it or added much IMHO. Nothing personal, brilliant player just not a good coach. He shouldn’t get near the Wallabies again.

2024-03-20T19:46:26+00:00

Honest Max

Roar Rookie


By your rationale, Scott Robertson didn't have pro/elite experience before he coached the Saders to 100 consecutive titles. Neither did Dave Rennie, Jamie Joseph or Clarke Dermody. In fact, it seems that the last SR winning coach that had the requisite experience (pro-elite head coach) was Michael Cheika.

2024-03-20T19:39:34+00:00

Honest Max

Roar Rookie


Sure. Imagine if the guy that was good enough to win the NRC, before moving to the Reds before quickly turning them from the worst to the best team in Australia in SR, was able to spend a few more years in the lower levels. Imagine that, eh? Think about that! Just imagine..... the Reds might still be a rabble if it wasn't for Thorn, but I guess he'd soon be 'ready' to finish his all-important NRC apprenticeship and turn the Reds around. And Rugby Australia is flush with cash so the expense of running a pro comp for many years, despite no public support, wouldn't have been a concern. Genius!

AUTHOR

2024-03-20T04:33:38+00:00

W Evans

Roar Rookie


Intersting question Max. I’d say that super isn’t necessarily better than European Rugby - it used to be but the opposite is now probably true. European Rugby is showing the way in terms of breakdown work…

AUTHOR

2024-03-20T04:27:29+00:00

W Evans

Roar Rookie


Times have changed I think Max. Firstly, all those guys had margin for error, time to feel their way. Secondly, the majority had better and more experienced squads of players to coach. Thirdly, the professional game, even over the last 5 years but certainly over the last 10-20 is unrecognizable in terms of preparation, resource use, demand on time etc.

2024-03-19T06:19:12+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Well you are certainly paying for not having one. Wouldnt it have been great if Thorn could have spent 1 more year at NRC, Then assisted at SR for 3-4 years before progressing up or heading OS. Think about that

2024-03-19T06:17:45+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Quality of player

2024-03-19T06:15:23+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Going OS is the only option in Aus. With no NRC teams its a struggle to give improved opportunities as they move up.

2024-03-19T06:12:15+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


I think Thorn v Kiss is the perfect example JD. Thorn made them tough and bought thru a lot of young guys who are now early to mid 20s with a lot of SR game time but the experience of Kiss is now required to take them beyond Thorns ability.

2024-03-19T06:08:55+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


W Evens Kiss himself credits Thorn with making the side tough and uncompromising and many arr now still 23-24 yo. Ive seen articles saying BT did as much as he could with his skillset and he left them in a great place.

2024-03-18T17:09:45+00:00

Honest Max

Roar Rookie


Why is SR above European pro rugby?

2024-03-18T17:09:13+00:00

Honest Max

Roar Rookie


Brad Thorne won the NRC as head coach. Twice! if it was such a great development path then why is he getting so much criticism? Who’s going to pay for this NRC btw?

2024-03-18T17:07:38+00:00

Honest Max

Roar Rookie


Other coaches that didn’t have head coaching experience before leading a SR team include Robbie Deans, Ewen McKenzie, Dave Rennie, Scott Robertson, Rod McQueen…. I dare say, most of the successful ones.

2024-03-18T17:02:08+00:00

Honest Max

Roar Rookie


Three Reds’ players were in that Oz u20s team, so that’s a hard rationale to justify. We don’t have to make stuff up, right?

2024-03-18T10:49:40+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


I was not sure how Kiss would do without the person above him like Kidney at LI. In order for teams like LI or Ulster to play fast ball they must be able to secure the ball quickly sometimes against other fast teams and sometimes against teams akin to the Boks in size. This means his players not just need to be in the right place but have the skill to keep a stronger player away meaning players no exactly what to do be it the ball carrier, the cleaners or the scrumhalf. If you think Kiss has improved then Friend should be getting the next SRP Oz job as he would do as good Kiss has done.

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2024-03-18T09:54:52+00:00

W Evans

Roar Rookie


Hi Ray - I would describe the NRC as a step on the ladder rather than a pathway. It was a semi-professional comp miles off the professional standard of Super Rugby. Coaches need a step or maybe 2 or 3 steps, between them. E.g Shute Shield, NRC, Japan, Europe, Super, Test….

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