The Aussies got off to the best possible start against England with Starc’s first-ball wicket – just the fourth dismissal in Ashes history to begin a Test match. The left-arm quick ended up with first-innings figures of 2/35 but who called that instantly-iconic moment best?
DaveJ
Roar Rookie
I did say please explain? This is why I asked. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/iconic
DaveJ
Roar Rookie
Nothing like. Just being pedantic and fighting a losing battle on the use of iconic. https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/iconic
DaveJ
Roar Rookie
Fair enough. I'll concede that could become the case if the Poms have a real stinker.
Jeff
Roar Rookie
you could say that Harmison's ball came to be symbolic and representative of the way England fell over in that series.
DaveJ
Roar Rookie
Iconic doesn't mean just notable, memorable or very good, at least it didn't used to. It means - or meant - an image or individual that is symbolic, representative or worshipped/adored. Maybe Bradman was an icon, or there are iconic photos of Marilyn Monroe, Elvis or Chairman Mao, or so-and-so gets called a fashion icon. Maybe Warne's ball of the century was iconic. But it's true, I am a dinosaur, and nowadays anything that is mildly famous, well-liked or very good gets called iconic, so I am fighting a losing battle.
boes
Roar Pro
I miss Richie.
Big Daddy
Roar Rookie
Nothing Iconic about Brayshaw, Warne or Howard . Throw in Hamish McLachlan. Crickets on and all the pretend commentators come out of the woodwork.
Jeff
Roar Rookie
Harmison 06-07
Micko
Roar Rookie
What's the one you're referring to? #1: Ashes 2005? #2: Ashes 2006-2007?
Jeff
Roar Rookie
What's the other?
Micko
Roar Rookie
Actually...which one? Harmison has two iconic first balls of a series.
Son of Coco
Guest
Bad day at work Dave?
Mungbean74
Roar Rookie
Awesome! I could watch this all day! Gilly and whately for me.
JGK
Roar Guru
I could watch that again and again.
Rabbitz
Roar Guru
If I hear Brayshaw's voice on any program I instantly change channels or turn it off. He is worse than the combined efforts of all the "footy Shows".
13th Man
Roar Rookie
Brayshaw or Maxwell I reckon.
Tony Harper
Editor
Second time in 140 years that a wicket has fallen on the first ball of an Ashes series. 4th time ever on first ball of an Ashes Test. Pretty comfortable with that description.
Johnny
Guest
How wasn't it? Very strange comment, clearly need a hug.
Jeff
Roar Rookie
1st ball of the series. That makes it pretty iconic. Will be talked about for a long time when Ashes contests are reflected upon. As Harmison's ball is iconic. One just has to say "Harmision's first ball of the series" and most cricket followers recognise what you're talking about.
DaveJ
Roar Rookie
How was Starc's first ball wicket "iconic". Please explain.