Go ahead, move my team

By Dutski / Roar Guru

Every few years it comes up. Growing the game. Expanding into new markets. And hand-in-hand with the concept of expansion comes relocation.

But we’re looking at it all wrong.

We pick the struggling clubs to go. The ones with debt, years of poor performance, the taint of peptides or salary-cap breaches. It’s like relocation is a punishment.

And we ask a new market to accept this castoff as if it were their own. So both the club and the new market are being punished.

New markets deserve better. Clubs deserve better. So go ahead, move my team.

Move the Roosters.

Photo by Mark Metcalfe/Getty Images

Hang on! Move the reigning premiers? A team that’s enjoyed sustained success in recent times?

Sure. Let’s go.

Why not? Will the club lose fans? Probably. So what? The Roosters are routinely criticised for low crowd numbers. We lose from an already small attendance on game day, but we will pick up in a new market – be that Perth or the Central Coast or wherever.

And rusted-on fans – like me, who haven’t lived within 400km of the club in 20 years – will follow no matter what.

But what about Nick Politis? Isn’t he entrenched in the Eastern Suburbs elite? Won’t the club lose him and his toffy mates with all their cash?

Nope. Uncle Nick is an astute businessman, as evidenced by the ability of the club to attract and retain not only top-shelf talent but the third-party deals to fund them. You can bet he would be across the risk-benefit of a move. It’s not just a new market for the team, it’s a new market for sponsorship dollars too.

What about the local talent pathways and junior nursery? The Roosters are criticised for this too. Keep the Bears as a feeder club and tap into the juniors wherever they are. Nursery and pathway sorted.

Tribalism? Oh please. Aren’t Roosters fans too busy sipping lattes and talking about the Swans? That’s what the supporters of other clubs tell me.

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Will the new market, wherever that may be, embrace the Roosters? You bet they will. Oh sure, some people will continue to support the team that they have for years, but many will, especially if they are offered a high-performing, successful team.

A team that chose to be there. A team that wants to be there. Not one sent as punishment.

The club has something to gain in an improved junior nursery and improved crowd potential, while a new market gains a championship club. Win-win.

So go ahead. Move my team.

The Crowd Says:

2019-04-01T02:09:22+00:00

clipper

Roar Rookie


I fully realise that they will ensure they don't fold, just stating that crowds will fall, interest will wane if they fall out of the finals - their attendance is below the worst performing AFL team in Melbourne now. It's quite possible that all 4 AFL teams you mention will hit a bad patch of form at the same time - perhaps the Swans might get close to being overtaken by the best performing NRL side in Sydney if that happens.

2019-03-29T13:54:02+00:00

BeastieBoy

Roar Rookie


Move the Roosters to Gosford

2019-03-28T11:51:47+00:00

dynamite dave

Guest


Yes relocate the successful clubs. Lets move the Broncos to Perth, and introduce a new team into Brisbane. Move the Storm to Adelaide and introduce a new team in melbourne. Move the roosters to auckland - at least that way the "Easts" part of their historic name would mean something

2019-03-28T05:02:04+00:00

Adam Bagnall

Roar Guru


That would make more sense. I think all Eastern/Southern/Northern teams should play out of Allianz stadium. Home ground advantage is a myth and it would mean games played at a good stadium

2019-03-28T04:37:21+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


hi John, I'm very cautious with ANYTHING the NRL does, simply because they don't seem to do it at all well; case in point, stopping deBelin from playing using a rule that had not even been drafted and agreed! I'd love to see expansion, I'd love to see teams in ALL capital cities, out bush in NSW and so on, I'm just not even 50% sure these guys in charge will get it right. If they don't get it right in places like the NSW bush or Brisbane, it will hurt badly but not cause lasting damage. If they get in wrong in centres like Perth, Adelaide, etc, the damage to the game's reputation could literally take decades to repair. Let Greenburg and co show they can successfully put another Club in Brisbane before they have a go at a more difficult project. If they get the first one right, there's no reason why they couldn't leverage off that success and do a more ambitious move into Perth, Adelaide or where ever, fairly quickly, but if they screw up a second Brisbane Club, no harm, no foul.

2019-03-28T03:59:16+00:00

John

Guest


NRL's days of crawling should have stopped after signing a $2 billion broadcasting deal, expansion is supposed to build on this. Melbourne Rugby League as it stands has 17 clubs in the competition, 10 of which were founded in 2010 or after. I'm just going off wikipedia by the way so take that information with a grain of salt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melbourne_Rugby_League So with the success of Storm, their local comp has also increased. Sure they may not have produced any juniors that have set the NRL on fire, but that I do believe takes time. That's something that wouldn't have happened if they had opted for Brisbane 2 or north Sydney instead of Melbourne all those years ago. That's something that won't have a chance of happening in WA/SA if they "strengthen the heartlands". "Expansion is mostly about business opportunities and money. A team in Perth for example will attract sponsorship money & give the NRL additional negotiating space when talking about TV rights. Everything else you mentioned above comes a distant second to these." So I do wonder why you would want to strengthen the heartlands if you already have this view.

2019-03-28T00:28:57+00:00

michael holland

Guest


Why not move Souths to Allianz back to their home land & share with Roosters & the Waratahs can play at Brookvale

2019-03-27T22:42:45+00:00

Adam Bagnall

Roar Guru


Relocate Souths. Where is their home ground? Certainly not Redfern. They barely represent the area anymore. Plus with random Souths guy you know they'll get a crowd anywhere.

2019-03-27T22:23:06+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


hi John, I think Rugby League needs to "crawl before it can walk" in terms of increasing the size of the competition. Right now, there are a number of traditional Rugby League areas that could have a team, but do not. I'm saying putting teams in these locations and above all, making sure they work successfully, is a necessary first step BEFORE any additional movements outside this space. "relocating a team to another place in the heartland doesn’t really address expanding the grassroots, doesn’t really try to establish new nurseries, doesn’t really try to attract a new eyeballs to the game. Which expansion is supposed to be all about." I disagree with the premise these points you've made are what expansion is all about. These are what we would LIKE expansion to be all about. In other words you've created an expansion wishlist. The Melbourne Storm have been in the comp for 20 years, have been highly successful on the field, yet I ask you to name ALL the youngsters that should have come through their junior system out of Melbourne? I'm not aware of one Victorian junior who has come through as they would in NSW or Qld and by now there should have been several. Expansion is mostly about business opportunities and money. A team in Perth for example will attract sponsorship money & give the NRL additional negotiating space when talking about TV rights. Everything else you mentioned above comes a distant second to these.

AUTHOR

2019-03-27T21:36:00+00:00

Dutski

Roar Guru


East West Coast Roosters sounds like an alcoholic beverage!

2019-03-27T10:55:09+00:00

WarHorse

Roar Rookie


Politics and sport, just like politics and religion or oil and water, should never mix.

2019-03-27T10:17:15+00:00

Jay Wright

Roar Rookie


Excellent rebuttal

2019-03-27T09:50:11+00:00

MarkD

Guest


Don't know about coup, reckon uncle Nick still has him on speed dial! East West Coast Roosters ??

2019-03-27T09:27:08+00:00

jamesb

Roar Guru


Pretty simple. The NRL will nurse them through. The NRL is not going to fold the Storm if they hit a poor patch of form. Much to your disappointment. I hope Clipper, for your sake, that the Swans, Giants, Suns and Lions don't all hit a bad patch of form at the same time.

2019-03-27T08:27:13+00:00

john

Guest


Your idea of "covered completely" sounds more like saturation. You also seem to work off the idea that there is a limit to the number of fans a club can maintain. The other thing, if you want to cover this area so that the AFL doesn't expand into it, then you aren't really addressing the entire states that AFL has free reign in and will continue to do so, which effectively makes expanding into those territories much harder later on down the track. Not saying the two areas you pointed out couldn't support another team, but relocating a team to another place in the heartland doesn't really address expanding the grassroots, doesn't really try to establish new nurseries, doesn't really try to attract a new eyeballs to the game. Which expansion is supposed to be all about.

2019-03-27T07:32:27+00:00

Dwanye

Roar Rookie


I wonder if management just want to wing it, hoping when push comes to shove, don’t make cut, then take NRL to court, then ‘win that like souths’. I hope they don’t take that option. From listening to commentators who have talked to lawyers and people involved, if the league had appealed they would have one, but didn’t want to fight ‘fans’ any longer after doing it since 95.

2019-03-27T06:49:43+00:00

Justin Credible

Roar Rookie


running ten metres from the try line and running through a gap big enough to dry a truck through or other a couple of guys to score aint that important it U12's stuff. He was always prepared to run 10 metres from the oppostion try line to score but he was nowhere to be found 10 metres from his own tryline.

AUTHOR

2019-03-27T06:34:01+00:00

Dutski

Roar Guru


I think he was pretty important in the Roosters premiership a few years back.

AUTHOR

2019-03-27T06:30:29+00:00

Dutski

Roar Guru


That’s cool mate. Perth Eels has a nice ring. Taking all the emotion out, the more I think about it the more I feel the Roosters have been squeezed out geographically to the point where they haven’t been Easts for ages. So does it matter where they are? Eels still own Parramatta though, and vice versa

2019-03-27T06:26:40+00:00

Justin Credible

Roar Rookie


oh god no, he didnt do anything the first two times he played in the NRL

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