The Sydney Roosters are the most logical team for relocation

By Tim Gore / Expert

There has been a lot of talk recently about relocating a team from Sydney to either greater Brisbane or Perth.

It seems that the prevailing logic is that there are too many teams in the Sydney area to be viable.

I don’t necessarily agree with that logic at all. I’d rather my team die than relocate, and I don’t think I’m even close to the Lone Ranger in that view.

I view the suggestion that a side should be relocated from the Sydney area as the type of logic that could only emanate from people with only a financial attachment to the game, or those who know that their team is in no danger of relocation.

Uprooting a side from its historical heartland risks killing a little bit more of the game’s soul.

There is a hollow and distant look in the eyes of North Sydney Bears and Newtown supporters. It’s one I never want to have. It’s one I don’t want to have inflicted on another supporter.

Billy Moore of the Bears shows his frustration during a NRL match between the St George Dragons and the North Sydney Bears at Kogarah Oval 1998, in Sydney, Australia. (Photo by Getty Images)

They don’t really care. Sure, they might watch the grand finals and State of Origin, but their passionate love for the game has gone.

However, if a side is to be relocated, there is an obvious choice: The Sydney Roosters.

“WTF?!?!” I hear you cry.

“Not only are they the reigning NRL Premiers, they have been in seven of the last 19 grand finals. They are a foundation club. You can’t be serious!”

I’m deadly serious.

It makes perfect sense. It is completely logical. The numbers support it.

And that’s what controls the game these days: numbers.

The biggest number controlling the game is the numerical value of the broadcast deal. That dollar value influences all sorts of things including the absolute pre-eminence of State of Origin and how the NRL devises the draw for each season.

If a team is to be relocated it should be one for whom the numbers were the poorest. Not in regard to actual current success, but in regards to their actual fan-base and potential to grow that base.

The issue for the Roosters is that when you actually look at all of the numbers it is hard to see how they would not be the clear favourite for relocation.

Memberships and crowds
The first criteria that I would look at if I was contemplating relocating a team would be the side’s actual membership. These figures show the membership numbers for each of the teams in the greater Sydney area so far in 2019, as well as for the previous four seasons.

Club Name 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015
Rabbitohs 28,394 29,189 30,220 32,813 35,311
Eels 22,724 25,145 24,501 23,779 22,824
Dragons 19,232 21,197 19,181 17,932 18,117
Wests Tigers 18,895 20,794 18,074 14,879 9,342
Panthers 18,722 20,477 20,248 20,195 19,884
Bulldogs 15,138 19,570 18,833 20,703 18,240
Sharks 14,843 15,802 15,613 14,325 10,610
Roosters 13,710 16,044 16,001 14,458 16,682
Sea Eagles 11,375 12,430 13,163 13,351 12,265
Total Memberships 163,033 180,648 175,834 172,435 163,275
Average 18,114 20,072 19,537 19,159 18,141

As you can see, the Roosters – the current NRL Premiers – have the second lowest memberships so far this year. Only the Sea Eagles are below them.

Both the Bulldogs and the Eels are having a fairly rough time of it right now results wise and they are both in front of the Roosters. The Eels have over 9,000 more members in spite of collecting the wooden spoon in 2018.

Imagine how big the Bulldogs and Eels membership numbers would be if they were experiencing the type of good results that the Roosters are.

In every season from 2015 onwards the Roosters have been below the membership average of the Sydney NRL sides.

The actual attendance numbers aren’t much better either.

Club Name Aggregate 2018 Average 2017 Average
Rabbitohs 222,367 18,531 10.903
Wests Tigers 207,487 17,291 13,551
Dragons 199,268 16,606 13,334
Panthers 171,170 14,264 12,922
Bulldogs 170,182 14,182 14,039
Roosters 159,287 13,274 15,387
Sharks 152,397 12,700 12,953
Sea Eagles 134,778 11,232 13,493
Eels 134,096 11,175 14,346
Total 1,551,032 (172,336 avg) 14,362 (avg) 13,436 (avg)

As you can see, the Roosters’ 2018 home crowds were below the average in spite of it being a winning season.

If the Tri-Colours can’t generate large support when they are being successful, surely that casts great doubt over their long term viability in the market place.

Location and juniors
It is widely known that actual home-grown-from-juniors Roosters are as rare as hens teeth. A large part of that is where they are based.

The Eastern Suburbs of Sydney are affluent to say the least.

It is not an area that teems with junior rugby league clubs or the sort of families that want them. Further, it is extremely unlikely that demographic is going to start moving there in significant numbers. That is unlike the areas further west, south and north that are inhabited by the fans of the Sharks, the Bulldogs, the Wests Tigers, the Eels and the Panthers.

The Dragons can pull from both the areas around Kogarah and Wollongong.

While the Rabbitohs are based virtually in the same spot as the Roosters, their membership numbers are massive and dwarf their immediate neighbours. Further, like the Dragons, the Rabbitohs have diversified their fan-base by regularly taking matches to Gosford and to Cairns.

Adam Reynolds and Souths at Barlow Park in Cairns. (Photo by Ian Hitchcock/Getty Images)

The Sharks are drawing plenty of attention in regard to relocation. However, the Shire is a cul-de-sac. If you remove the Sharks from that area you are likely to lose those fans to the game.

That’s a stupid move.

While the Sea Eagles are in poor shape at the present moment, they are the only Sydney club north of the harbour. The NRL would be out of their minds to cede that market.

The NRL needs to get in there to help fix both those teams issues.

Then we come to the biggest market for sports fans in Australia: Western Sydney. From Campbelltown in the South, to Penrith in the West, and Blacktown in the North, the area is teeming with league fans and junior league players.

Any sports administrator who isn’t trying to get and grow a large piece of that market is an idiot. Why do you think the AFL is ploughing so much time, effort and money into GWS – a side that no one asked for and could only get a crowd of 21,290 to a home preliminary final in 2016?

Because they know that Western Sydney is key to any major sporting code in Australia being truly successful going forward.

It follows that anyone suggesting that the Eels, Bulldogs, Panthers and Wests Tigers should be relocated have little understanding of where the NRL’s strongest market is.

Giving up on any of these clubs would be totally foolhardy. You have to nurture and support them. If you aren’t irretrievably stupid that is…

Clearly the Roosters have a great administration. They are excellent at assembling very competitive sides. However, it is mostly from talent that is not from the Eastern Suburbs.

So why do they need to be based there? The crowds certainly don’t justify it.

The Roosters celebrate (Photo by Matt King/Getty Images)

Further, with 50 per cent of their games routinely broadcast on free-to-air each season (something their supporter base and ratings –unlike those of the Broncos or Rabbitohs – don’t obviously justify), it will still be easy for their meagre band of fans to watch them whether they are in Perth, Wellington or Brisbane.

And don’t try and use the “tradition” argument. It wasn’t able to save Newtown or North Sydney – or Western Suburbs or Balmain.

The Roosters really are the most logical candidate for relocation when the realities are examined.

However, the likelihood is that they have both the money and the influence to ensure that they are not even mentioned if and when the subject is seriously discussed.

Sports opinion delivered daily 

   

The Crowd Says:

2019-04-01T05:47:22+00:00

Tone

Guest


I wouldn’t be trusting membership numbers as clubs regularly fudge the figures. Take Souths for instance, all juniors are automatically counted as members. Compare club membership numbers to their actual attendance figures. Top of the table Parra couldn’t pull much over 12k against the reigning premiers on a Fridee night with perfect weather.

2019-04-01T00:22:48+00:00

Robert Szemeti

Roar Rookie


WAAAAAAA??????

2019-03-31T17:53:15+00:00

David

Guest


Statistics can be distorted into so many ways Roosters only 13000 membership but average 13000 crowds whilst Souths have 29000 membership but only 18000 crowds So the percentage of supporters actually turning up to watch their team favours heavily to the Roosters and gives reason to relocate Souths too

2019-03-31T03:24:20+00:00

Tommo

Guest


A well researched and logically presented argument... ...except for the well known fact that Uncle Nick knows where all the bodies are buried...which explains how Easts can afford: Friend Cronk JWH Tedesco Angus Crichton and remain under the salary cap.

2019-03-31T01:26:51+00:00

CallmeDragon

Roar Rookie


true. and enough Broncos haters to fill suncorp every second week

2019-03-31T01:25:05+00:00

CallmeDragon

Roar Rookie


Northern Roosters. Every second match at Brookie. Every other match at the football stadium. Manly to Central Coast - fan base,great stadium, juniors.

2019-03-31T01:12:55+00:00

Patrick Mahed

Guest


People who say that South Sydney Rabbitohs aren't the same entity as began in 1908 must operate under the notion that if you lose your driver's licence for 2 years then get it back you're somehow a different person. The club is still the South Sydney District Rugby Football League Club that was established in 1908 and still 25% owned by the members. And while Souths Leagues club no longer operates, let's face it Redfern really didn't have the demographic for a successful leagues club operation, they are now closely bound with Souths Juniors which has three clubs.

2019-03-30T06:21:37+00:00

liquorbox_

Roar Rookie


But they are a fellow NSWRL team, just like the Broncos

2019-03-29T23:30:52+00:00

Logic

Guest


They got booted. The modern day Rabbitohs were established in 2002. Sorry bout claiming everything from before is just sad. The titans dont claim their 7 other brands in the same location. Souths dont even have a home ground in their own suburb hence why they aren't the same club as the one established in 1908. Just a poor attempt to claim titles from an era with 7 clubs. In terms of the article I'm 100% behind it. poor fan base, poor memberships, no junior establishment in 112 seasons but highly competitive and well branded / sponsored. strongest team to survive a move in an overpopulated region of teams. Bring on the Perth Roosters.

2019-03-29T13:51:36+00:00

BeastieBoy

Roar Rookie


the Roosters already own clubs in Gosford. Move them there ..

2019-03-29T12:17:13+00:00

Dogforlife

Roar Rookie


So long as Uncle Nicks anus points to the ground the Red White and Blue are going nowhere. A year of two after that is no longer the case the three other fans will be reminiscing and reciting the words to candle in the wind with tears streaming down their face. Sydney needs to lose clubs for NRL to grow. Nothing is forever and humans are quite adept at adaptation despite the resistance to change they fear. If you love the game and the colours / team you chose you will follow your team regardless. If not remain stuck in the past believing it used to be better in your time and stop being part of the problem. I'm a Canterbury supporter since 79 born and bred in Brisbane and if they were relocated I'm not going to stop watching the game I grew up with or vocally supporting MY TEAM.

2019-03-29T09:44:08+00:00

Dunning Kruger

Roar Rookie


Depends on your measure of growth. And the one that matters isn't bums on seats at the ground.

2019-03-29T05:32:33+00:00

Chris

Guest


...and won!!

2019-03-29T03:59:33+00:00

db

Guest


Mark, the article and most of the posters here aren't saying this is likely to happen. The article focuses on which team is most likely to be able to successfully make such a move. The Roosters and the Rabbitohs are best placed of the Sydney clubs with regard to making a move interstate. This is a different argument to whether a move will actually happen.

2019-03-29T03:36:20+00:00

greg mckenzie

Guest


an redfern is now 5000 capacity. dipstick

2019-03-29T01:39:34+00:00

Papi Smurf

Roar Rookie


Where do the Rabbitohs train MF? Where are all their club videos and media interviews recorded? Redfern oval is the answer MF. The original Souths Leagues club is more of a museum piece now I agree and the functioning Leagues club NOT owned by Souths is run by their sister club Souths Juniors in Kingsford. In the heart of Rabbitohs territory. There next one will be purpose built in Perth. ;-)

2019-03-29T01:38:21+00:00

Mark Ferguson

Roar Rookie


You guys are crazy this will never happen, The Roosters are a very successful, financially viable club that has millions of dollars in assets. The Easter Bunny knocking on my door has a greater chance of happening than this...

2019-03-29T01:30:39+00:00

Papi Smurf

Roar Rookie


So you are a “Souths junior” then TB. Welcome to the club! LOL Btw you made a typo, it’s Zetland not Zealand and Nathan Merritt’s Dad played for them before playing for the Redfern All Blacks even though Nathan played for the Alexandria Rovers. I played most of my junior football with the Chelsea Eagles before playing for the All Blacks with Nathan’s Dad for my last 2 years. We also went to the same high school along with Kyle Turner’s Dad.

2019-03-29T01:26:26+00:00

Mark Ferguson

Roar Rookie


Sorry to burst your bubble but South Sydney died when they were majority taken over by Blackcourt League Investments. South's doesn't even have a leagues club anymore and don't play anywhere near Redfern either. This version of South Sydney was born with Homes a Court and Crowe.

2019-03-29T01:20:25+00:00

Jacks

Roar Guru


Not sure of the logic? That would mean we can move every club? Or it makes more sense to move Souths cause of their success?

More Comments on The Roar

Read more at The Roar