Six talking points from Super Rugby Round 16

By Oliver Matthews / Expert

The finals might be so close that you can taste the excitement but there is still a lot of rugby to go yet before we know exactly where we all stand.

Excitingly many teams are still in the running for making the finals and that made this round very tense as teams knew the results mattered more than most rounds.

It was interesting to see where this brought a new level of intensity and quality to some teams while others stumbled on the big night.

Not surprisingly there’s plenty to talk about so let’s get stuck into some of the key talking points from Round 16…

Did no one read my Talking Point on kicking recently?!
A few weeks ago there was a round of rugby that saw some terrible kicking performances from teams all across the competition.

Clearly no coaches or teams picked up on that and adjusted their training schedule which is a) not surprising at all, and b) incredibly frustrating because this weekend highlighted yet again how essential a good kicking game is in today’s rugby.

Far too often this weekend teams were kicking away possession without actually gaining anything. If you’re going to give the opposition the ball then you want something back in return surely – we live in a capitalist society after all, and we’re definitely not looking for unselfish generosity from our rugby team.

Aimless kicks that look good because they soar 60m down the field more often than not end up costing the original kicking team dearly, and yet the team will continue to use that plan.

For all the good from the Brumbies’ performance this weekend, there were some very poor examples of kicking from hand.

The Sunwolves showed that while they might have a good few weaknesses, their kicking game is better than many in the league.

Early in the match the Brumbies kicked poorly down the middle of the field, didn’t find touch or grass and didn’t chase up well enough.

In return the Sunwolves showed them how to do it – the bomb went up and there were plenty of Sunwolves players contesting the ball as it dropped to earth, winger Hosea Saumaki ending up with the ball.

He then sprinted to the line and the home side scored inside 50 seconds.

The Rebels were also their own worse enemy at times against the Tahs and kicked so often and so poorly that you started to wonder if they were allergic to the ball.

The Brumbies managed to survive the fast start from the Sunwolves but the Rebels went down to the Tahs and really dented their finals hopes. A lot of the loss was down to kicking away possession time after time.

The Canes have kicked pretty well this season too and have shown the value of being able to pin a team back deep in their own 22 and wait for the error.

But far too many teams are well behind the curve on this relatively basic skill and plan and they really need to sort it out.

Did Quade Cooper help or hinder his cause?
Speaking of the Rebels and Tahs, there was lots of chat ahead of this clash about the head to head battle between Bernard Foley and Quade Cooper.

If Cooper was going to stake his claim to the Wallabies No.10 jersey then this was the perfect time – he had to step up, dominate the incumbent and show Michael Cheika that he’d be crazy to ignore him.

Now there were definitely high points from Cooper including his try that came off the back of some good support running, but his team lost the game and it did feel like he needed to do a little bit more to get his side going forward and dictate the pace to the Tahs.

Foley on the other hand was much more in control. He helped his team get points when they had the chance and just seemed to be able to steer the Tahs around the field in a more effective manner than his counterpart.

Overall, it feels like both fly halves have struggled to put their stamp on the season or the Wallabies starting position. But with no one truly threatening Foley, the honour will go to the incumbent.

So sounds like Cheika and Hansen both have tricky decisions to make about who starts in their team’s No.10 jersey – I know which one I’d rather be!

(Photo by Bradley Kanaris/Getty Images)

That tackle!
While we’re on the topic of the Rebels vs Tahs game there is “the tackle” that we need to touch on briefly.

If you haven’t seen the footage of Curtis Rona’s tackle on Marika Koroibete then check it out and maybe also check out Vaea Fifita’s sending off from this weekend and Owen Farrell’s hit on André Esterhuizen in last Spring’s internationals.

Each of them are big hits and each of them have potentially illegal aspects to them and each of them received a different decision from no penalty, to a simple penalty and finally a red card in Fifita’s case.

Now if you’re a Rebels fan you are most likely pretty frustrated that Rona got away with just a penalty. But beyond that – the thing that is most frustrating is the inconsistency with which these sorts of tackles are being dealt with by referees.

Rona was pinged with a penalty while Fifita was sent off. Yes Fifita’s tackle ended up making contact with the head so perhaps a red is justified – but how can Rona’s no-arms, clear shoulder charge on a player who was otherwise going to score only get a penalty?

As we go through these final rounds and then the finals themselves, we must have consistency in the way these key decisions are being made.

One legend leaves, another returns
There was sad, if perhaps not unexpected, news during the week when David Pocock confirmed that he was not going to play again for the Brumbies this year and that he wouldn’t be playing rugby in Australia again.

Following that have come the deserved stories about Pocock’s incredible performances and contributions to Australian rugby this week and lots of debate about where he sits on the all-time best players list.

Wherever you put him on that list, it’s obvious the game will be worse off without him. Interestingly for the Brumbies though they will take heart from the fact that they’ve achieved great things already this season without much of his input on the field. However that shouldn’t detract from the hero that he is.

In some sort of yin and yang moment though, Pocock’s exit from Super Rugby has been mirrored by another back rower returning in the form of Sam Cane.

Another hero of the game has recovered from his broken neck and over the past couple of weeks has been making his presence felt back in Super Rugby.

And boy what a presence! With him back in their side, the Chiefs have looked like a different side and while they obviously still miss the attacking flair of Damian McKenzie, having Cane back has been the shot in the arm this team really needed.

For those who doubt that – do you really think that the Chiefs would have beaten the Crusaders this weekend if Cane wasn’t playing?

(Photo by Mark Nolan/Getty Images)

A blue future for the Blues
The men from Auckland have been better this season compared to 2018 and at times they have looked like they could even put on a run to the finals.

Unfortunately though they haven’t been able to turn often huge amounts of possession and territory into the points that matter – but, overall, things have been moving in the right direction.

It’s then sad to hear that two of the players who would be exciting parts of their 2020 plans are not going to be at the club.

Leon MacDonald has confirmed that he doesn’t think the club will be seeing Ma’a Nonu or Sonny Bill Williams next year and that is a big blow.

Even though SBW has hardly been seen on the field this year due to injury, and Ma’a Nonu is fast approaching 40 years of age, what those two players bring to the club on and off the field is impressive.

With them both gone, the Blues are going to have some huge holes to fill in terms of on field talent and overall experience.

Not only that, but overall the Blues are going to find it hard to attract top talent given the rut they are in.

Saracens vs Crusaders
There are plenty more exciting things from Super Rugby this weekend ranging from the Chiefs impressive win over the Crusaders, the Jaguares clean sweep on their Australian tour and the battling Lions winning big and getting back into Finals contention. But let’s wrap up on a “what if”…..

Up north in England they are wrapping up their season and had their own Grand Final on Saturday as the Exeter Chiefs took on Saracens at Twickenham. It was a great game with points being scored from the first minute to the very last and tension throughout.

With Saracens also winning the European Rugby Champions Cup they have cemented themselves as legends of northern hemisphere club rugby. But how would they do against the best that Super Rugby has to offer?

What if Saracens took on the Crusaders in a best-of-the-best match? It’s a game that we’d surely all love to see and if there’s a way to make it happen then that would be fantastic.

But until then we’ll just have to let our imagination do the hard work – who do you think would take home the gold?

The Crowd Says:

2019-06-05T23:10:54+00:00

Timbo (L)

Roar Guru


Ronas Tackle: Koribete wasn't going to score, If Koribete had kept his line he would likely have been legally tackled into touch. But he didn't, he stepped into Rona, leading with his shoulder, and head, closing the distance, messing up the timing of the tackle. Rona went into a position of self defense to protect his ribs, and if you look at the footage closely, also got a bump to the chin for his troubles. I think the outcome was fair. The attacking player is responsible for their safety too, Korebete put himself in harms way, leading with his head, you can't blame the defender. I am not sure on the current interpretation of the rules, but I belive there should be mor focus on attacking players having some responsibility for their own safety.

2019-06-05T01:26:38+00:00

Waxhead

Roar Rookie


Agree Charlie Beale has always been a rubbish defender except for once I've seen. At last RWC he actually defended ok cos he decided to put his body on the line and add some commitment to the cause. After RWC he reverted back to normal defensive form (rubbish) and as time goes by those players increasingly get found out. It's the main reason he was such an ordinary WB centre and why he should never be fullback imo :)

2019-06-05T00:35:37+00:00

Charlie Turner

Guest


Fair enough mate. I'm not sure if this is right but Beale seems to be getting worse. Could be that he was always poor.

2019-06-04T23:58:18+00:00

Waxhead

Roar Rookie


Yeah Charlie :) I agree on your technique comments. I just think Quade has greatly improved his defence this year and is now more reliable than Foley who - like Genia and Beale - is basically a road hump :) I understand that Genia and Foley don't have size but there's many other good defenders around with similar size or smaller like .... Smith, Parker, Weber, Perenara, De Clerk, Cubelli, Sanchez etc etc. Good technique and commitment are the most important factors in defence - not size. Beale has no excuses - he just won't put his body on the line.

2019-06-04T23:30:35+00:00

Charlie Turner

Guest


Waxy, I can't agree that Foley is normally a worse defender than Cooper. They're both about the same in reality and both about par with their effective percentages year on year in the high 60's or low 70's. Foley has a better technique when tackling low and Cooper seems to prefer the ball and all technique of putting his leading foot in the metre circle under the attacker. Modern coaches favour the latter as it prevents offloading so the movement dies with the tackle but it takes committment to place your foot close enough to be effective.

2019-06-04T23:10:09+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


ESPN Scrum has him making 18 of 20 - not sure how many he made but possibly it was the most he's ever done.

2019-06-04T22:48:38+00:00

Waxhead

Roar Rookie


@Terry IF Foley made that many tackles - I say IF because I don't trust the Fox Sports alleged stats - then for Foley that will double the amount of tackles he's made all year and will be THE most number of tackles he's ever made in any game. Normally Foley (and Beale also) is a worse defender than Quade. One of the reasons I prefer Lealiifano now to both of them is cos he's a good fearless defender.

2019-06-04T08:58:38+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Actually it was 4 of 8. And a one off defensive performance is hardly what you pick a fly half off.

2019-06-04T04:49:02+00:00

smoothy

Roar Rookie


You're delving into some 'touchy' subjects here Oliver: Crusaders vs Saracens - that has a historic ring to it that our Kiwi politicians wouldn't want to be anywhere near!! But as a rugby fan I'd be all for it - take it to Jerusalem and the really get the atmosphere going...

2019-06-04T04:27:25+00:00

terrykidd

Roar Pro


Mate I know you don't like anything Tahs or Foley but on the weekend Foley made 16 of 18 tackles. Quade made 1 of 5. Now even with all that defence work to tire him, Foley at worst evened the game management with Quade and at best out did him.

2019-06-04T04:24:25+00:00

terrykidd

Roar Pro


Things obviously change but earlier in the season it was QC and Foley for the 10 at the RWC with CLL an afterthought. However, over the last three weeks it is probably CLL and Foley with QC as an afterthought.

2019-06-04T00:41:41+00:00

RaroAuz

Roar Rookie


The kick I hate the most, the highly overused and telegraphed Box-Kick. I've seen so many tries scored directly from them (for the team formerly without the ball) that I wonder why they bother. They're such a low percentage play with little upside and even less distance gained that I drop my head every time a Halfback sets up for one. That and you can tell they're coming about 10 seconds before they attempt it. As for the Blues, the first player they should look for is a descent half-back. Jonathan Ruru is so far out of his depth it's not funny. He single-handedly gifted Canterbury their big lead half-time lead in the Mitre 10 Cup final last year, and is giving away try after try from his errors this year at a level of rugby he has no business being anywhere near. As for their 12 problem. The Blues *had* Orban Ledger in their squad last year, one of their best performers and the U20 second-five (alongside Braydon Ennor). And...they let him go. The Blues are the best around at losing talent.

2019-06-03T23:38:16+00:00

taylorman

Roar Guru


Yea easy. Funny how this comp has multiple sides as good as the Crusaders. Leinster were touted as the best NH side. No, it’s someone else. And we only have on that good. Such a shame.

2019-06-03T22:04:32+00:00

Waxhead

Roar Rookie


Good rap up Oliver and I agree with you except on the flyhalf issue. I thought both Quade and Foley were equally ordinary in the Tahs / Rebels game. Both had poor kicking games but at least Quades are longer. Lealiifano is the best flyhalf in Aust in 2019 imo with Quade as no 2. Lealiifano is far more solid, has good defence and is not as error prone as the other 2. But to be far none of our flyhalf options are good enough to get WBs past a quarter final at RWC.

2019-06-03T10:03:11+00:00

The Neutral View From Sweden

Roar Guru


Nah the Saders to win that one easy You can't really be serious Jacko. Sure, the Saders would have a good chance to win, but easy? No way Jose. It would be 50/50 who would win it.

2019-06-03T08:58:54+00:00

Phantom

Roar Rookie


Hansen has no real choice.

2019-06-03T08:43:06+00:00

GWSingapore

Guest


The highlight of the weekend was the Chiefs vs Crusaders in Suva, Fiji. It was a grand game featuring open running rugby. A full stadium with enthusiastic rugby supporters. A sight for sore eyes.

2019-06-03T03:17:17+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Not really. The conditions kind of dictated it. Basically rained right up to kick off after raining most of the week. I also think it was somewhere around 7 degrees.

2019-06-03T01:31:22+00:00

Crash Ball2

Roar Rookie


Banks for FB.

2019-06-03T01:29:22+00:00

numpty

Roar Rookie


Cannot see the tahs competing with the brumbies forward pack. Tahs seem to be kept in games by mistakes. Brumbies make few of these.

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