The Australian Super Rugby Championship XV challenge

By Brett McKay / Expert

Right then, enough with the off-field power struggles and boardroom shenanigans, in these times of crisis, it’s time to return to our roots: selecting fictional teams!

But this isn’t going to your bog standard ‘Pick your best ever Australian Super Rugby XV’. Oh no, this is going much more focussed than that.

And you won’t be able to just pick fifteen individuals, either. That’s where the challenge element comes into it. More on that shortly.

Australian teams have played in ten Super Rugby Finals all up, winning four titles. And they’ve played in another twelve losing semi-finals across eleven different seasons.

The Brumbies lead the way with two titles in 2001 and 2004, and they played in another four Finals, while losing another four semi-finals, the most recent being last season to the Jaguares in Argentina.

The Waratahs one title came in 2014, and they also lost finals in 2005 and 2008. And they’ve lost five semi-finals all up, the last in 2018.

The Reds’ 2011 title was their only appearance in a final, while they lost three semi-finals between 1996 and 2001.

Much has been said about Australia having a poor record in Super Rugby, but four titles, ten appearances in finals and another twelve semi-final appearances over 25 years is not terrible.

In those four Championship sides, there was some serious talent. And all four were genuinely great sides, too; any team that goes all the way generally is. But more importantly, all four teams had really good units and combinations within their respective teams.

And this is where the challenge comes into it.

Australia’s Championship-winning XVs

2001 Brumbies 2004 Brumbies 2011 Reds 2014 Waratahs
15 Andrew Walker Joe Roff Jono Lance Israel Folau
14 Graeme Bond Clyde Rathbone Rodney Davies Alofa Alofa
13 James Holbeck Joel Wilson Anthony Fainga’a Adam Ashley-Cooper
12 Rod Kafer Matt Giteau Ben Tapuai Kurtley Beale
11 Joe Roff Mark Gerrard Digby Ioane Rob Horne
10 Stephen Larkham Stephen Larkham Quade Cooper Bernard Foley
9 George Gregan(c) George Gregan Will Genia (vc) Nick Phipps
8 Jim Williams Scott Fava Radike Samo Wycliff Palu
7 George Smith George Smith Beau Robinson Michael Hooper (c)
6 Peter Ryan Owen Finegan (c) Scott Higginbotham Stephen Hoiles
5 David Giffin Radike Samo James Horwill (c) Jacques Potgieter
4 Justin Harrison Mark Chisholm Rob Simmons Kane Douglas
3 Ben Darwin Nic Henderson Greg Holmes Sekope Kepu
2 Jeremy Paul Jeremy Paul Saia Fainga’a Tatafu Polota-Nau
1 Bill Young Bill Young Ben Daley Benn Robinson

The Challenge
This is how it works. Pick your best XV from the four Championship starting sides, but not individual players.

• You need to break each XV into units, and how you create the units is up to you: whole backlines or combinations – back five and halves, or back three and midfield and halves. Similarly, whole scrums or combinations – back row and tight five, or the three rows separately.
• Which means while you can break the units up how you like, you have to be able to make a complete XV.
• The important bit: you can only pick one unit from the four Championship XVs.

My thinking
This sounds easy enough, and I can imagine that my strategy of starting with a certain player within a unit will be a common one.

For me, the team was always going to be built around the Brumbies’ halves of George Gregan and Stephen Larkham. But 2001 Gregan and Larkham, or 2004 Gregan and Larkham? That’s when you start having to look elsewhere.

George Gregan and Stephen Larkham: two Wallabies legends who honed their combination in Super Rugby. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

Part of my thinking of specifying halves was there wasn’t a midfield/halves unit that stood out for me. So I then started looking at back five units to go with the halves.

And this is where the Reds of 2011 did stand out. The halves combination of Quade Cooper and Will Genia got all the headlines, but their centre pairing of Ben Tapuai and Anthony Fainga’a was unheralded in attack and especially in defence.

Add some genuine speedsters out wide in Digby Ioane and Rod Davies – who’s still playing Sevens now, nine years on – and just a proper footballer at fullback in Jono Lance, and that’s a pretty solid unit right there.

I was always leaning towards a backrow/tight five breakup, and as much as I loved that Brumbies tight five of 2001 – most of them going on to knock off the British and Irish Lions that year – there was simply no way I was leaving George Smith out of a selection like this.

When you remember the Brumbies pack of 2004, Owen Finegan was still at his annoying best prior to heading to Newcastle in England the following season. And Scott Fava at no.8 was truly underrated in that side, too, but did so much of the hard work.

So the 2004 Brumbies backrow is in, which in turn means it’s the 2001 Gregan-Larkham combination getting the nod.

And that leaves the 2014 Waratahs tight five, which is almost worthy on its own just for the inclusion of South African wrecking ball, Jacques Potgieter. Kane Douglas was no slouch beside him, and it was an all-Wallabies front row as well. It’s actually not a bad pack to be left with.

Final team
Back five: Jono Lance, Rodney Davies, Anthony Fainga’a, Ben Tapuai, Digby Ioane (2011 Reds)
Halves: Stephen Larkham, George Gregan (2001 Brumbies)
Backrow: Scott Fava, George Smith, Owen Finegan (2004 Brumbies)
Tight five: Jacques Potgieter, Kane Douglas, Sekope Kepu, Tatafu Polota-Nau, Benn Robinson (2014 Waratahs)

Tatafu Polota-Nau was always a dedicated club man. (Image: Hpeterswald CC BY-SA 4.0)

For the Kiwis and Saffas
I’m keen to see this played out to Australia’s east and west, so it’s over to you guys in New Zealand and South Africa.

Of course, it’s a bit easier for South Africa: picking one unit each out of the 2007 Bulls, the 2009 Bulls, and the 2010 Bulls. Which Morne Steyn will make the cut?

The Kiwis I’ll be interested in. All five teams have won titles, so I want you to pick one unit from one (or the one) Championship side from each franchise.

Obviously centre pairings or second row specifications will be required to create a fifth unit. I’ll try and have a crack at this in the comments myself.

Arguments about which virtually identical Crusaders unit beats another one should be very entertaining! (Also means you can have Dan Carter or Richie McCaw, but not both.)

And keep an eye out for next week, where we’ll go all-in across all three countries and 25 years of Super Rugby Champions.

Find a complete list of Super Rugby Champions here.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2020-04-15T11:13:17+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


Right, finally go that Bulls side, and I had to get a little inventive. Remember, one unit from each of the three teams. First up: the 2007 tight five - Steenkamp, G.Botha, Gerber, B.Botha, Matfield (C) Matfield and B. Botha played together in the first two Bulls titles, but I reckon 2007 was prime Bakkies! Next: the 2010 backrow - Stegman, Potgieter, Spies. Spies played in all three titles, Stegman and Potgieter in the 2009-2010 double. And there's a reason to pick the 2010 version... Finally: the 2009 backline - du Preez, Steyn, Habana, Olivier, Pretorius, Ndungane, Kirchner. ..and that reason is this backline. The back five in particular was the pick of the three sides, and Steyn and du Preez were together again in 2010, so getting them all in a job lot in 2009 was perfect.

2020-04-15T05:28:50+00:00

Hoges

Roar Rookie


I missed that bit. Oh well had a crack.

2020-04-15T03:48:45+00:00

Tooly

Roar Rookie


Pretty simple. The entire 2004 Brumbies side. The earthquake in Canterbury gifted the Reds and Kiwis were resting players for the WC in 2014 when Potieger won.

2020-04-15T03:27:09+00:00

terrykidd

Roar Pro


Yeah I concede that but he was a regular starter as a lock before his injury

2020-04-15T01:31:29+00:00

Carlin

Roar Rookie


Makes that 2016 win more impressive. I also think the conditions that night were not the best either.

2020-04-14T23:12:16+00:00

cookie

Roar Guru


Wee bit of fun Brett. My main issue is that the first player I would like to pick can’t be if I have to take the combo… Radike Samo the only Aussie to win 2 titles with different teams! None of the Aussie loose heads fill me with confidence.. all are renowned for going down.. I’m gonna break the rules and pick Radike in the 2nd row and then I’m gonna run Andrew Walker at FB whilst shifting Roff to the wing and dumping Gerrard. 15. Andrew Walker 14. Clyde Rathbone 13. Joel Wilson 12. Matt Giteau 11. Joe Roff 10. Stephen Larkham 9. George Gregan 8. Jim Williams 7. George Smith 6. Owen Finegan 5. Radike Samo 4. Jaques Pottgeiter 3. Sekope Kepu 2. Tatafu polota-nau 1. Benn Robinson… (actually scrummaged well that super season)

AUTHOR

2020-04-14T22:57:23+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


That's an interesting break-up, Busted, yours might be the first three-quarter line unit selected..

AUTHOR

2020-04-14T22:55:57+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


I am going to look at these Bulls teams, if it's the last thing I do today... :mad:

AUTHOR

2020-04-14T22:55:15+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


nice one Adsa!

AUTHOR

2020-04-14T22:54:03+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


I did Hoges, but I also said you could only pick one unit from each of the four teams! You've doubled up on the Reds..

AUTHOR

2020-04-14T22:52:30+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


That's certainly true, and still carries forward today with the references to first and second five-eighth..

AUTHOR

2020-04-14T22:51:12+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


So I've finally got around to having a crack at the NZ team, and it took some time because I was going about it the wrong way. Foolishly, I tried to narrow down the Crusaders unit first, which is incredibly difficult to do. Instead, I wen the other way and picked out the standout units from the Highlanders (the back five) and the Hurricanes (their halves) from their one and only title. Similarly, lining the Chiefs' two sides up quickly had their lock pairing as the standouts, and then of the three Blues sides, I had to agree with several of you who have already highlighted that wonder front row of theirs from the first two seasons. That just left a Crusaders backrow to pick. The last three stick in the memory for obvious recent reasons, with the 2017 version standing out of them for taking a title the hard way, on the road (Taufua, Todd, Read). 2008 was indeed the only time Read and McCaw played in a Championship side (Read at 6), but in the end, I go right back to that incredible side of 2002, who remain the only side to take a title undefeated... So in the end: 1997 BLU Front row: Dowd, Fitzpatrick, Brown 2013 CHI Locks: Clarke, Retallick 2002 CRU Back row: Jack, McCaw, Robertson 2016 HUR Halves: Perenara, Barrett 2015 HIG Back five: Osborne, Buckman, Fekitoa, Naholo, Smith

2020-04-14T22:34:46+00:00

Armchair Halfback

Roar Rookie


I think back in the 60's and 70's NZ rugby treated 12 & 10 as a unit distinct from the outside backs. So an NZ backline was picked as full back, threequarters, five eighths & scrum half. I'm sure the august Mr Zavos can confirm the accuracy of this...! That said, I think they had 2 man front rows at one time, but I wasn't keen on reviving that practice! I watched the 2004 final a few weeks ago - great fun, Giteau really was kid dynamite. Thanks Brett!

2020-04-14T22:20:05+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


Yes, the 2015 losing Canes backline was so much stronger Nonu, Smith, Julian Savea and Milner Skidder in his pomp. None of them in 2016, and Laumape, Jordie and Lam hadn't arrived either!

2020-04-14T21:29:29+00:00

Carlin

Roar Rookie


Yeah mate. To be honest I saw your team and tried not to come up with the same but couldnt think of the right combinations. I had to have McCaw in there. The hard part was the 9/10 combo. That was the key for the Hurricanes and when you look at the team they fielded in that 2016 final it is not overly strong on paper in comparison to other squads. The only other unit that I would have considered for them was their loose forwards (Shields, Savea and Vito) but I did rate the Crusaders 08 trio better.

2020-04-14T19:43:15+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Danie Roussow not a bad bench guy

2020-04-14T14:28:03+00:00

Busted Fullback

Guest


Thanks Brett, challenge accepted. I've started "old-school". Pick your thight head first and build your team around him. My TH is Greg Holmes. Greatly underrated until towards the end of his Australian career I fear. With limitations in mind, the rest of this unit is the full Reds pack, each a Wallaby, including a fairly successful captain at Super and international level. Now I get to cheat. The 9-10 combination: Gregan-Larkam (Brums 2001). The 3/4's (old school for 11-14): Gerrard, Giteau, Wilson, Rathbone (Brums 2004) Fullback: Folau It hurts me to have to leave out some players, most notably Anthony Fainga'a. I mentioned in a previous post that I think the first quality of a player should be his defensive skills and of those 13's I think Fainga'a was the best. But we have our constraints. And I'm sure there will be those who disagree. I'd be disappointed if there weren't.

2020-04-14T14:14:33+00:00

Adrian

Roar Rookie


My team starts with the need to have about half of the players as "class" players because this is a final. I won't define my definition of "class" here, but I would say that Gregan had "class", and Jonno Lance didn't. I also have a requirement for a "worker" in about half of the positions, and a "game reader" in about half of the positions. Obviously someone can have more than one of these attributes, and it could be argued that a few had all 3. My team also must has someone that can manufacture a try out of nothing, someone who can save a try when all is lost and ideally a great goal kicker,... but none listed. The captain is crucial, and has to be able to relate to all players and the coach. I break the team into back 3, centres, halves, back rowers, second rowers and a front row. Ideally there is a "class" player, a "worker" and a "game reader" in each of these categories. Back 3: Brumbies 04 Centres: Tahs 14 Halves: Brumbies 04 Back Row: Brumbies 04 Second Row: Reds 11 Front Row: Tahs 14. I know, I know,...fancy picking someone like Simmons or Robinson, but I couldn't work out a formula not to. I also couldn't work out a method to get Digby Ioane into the team. The obvious captain to me is Horwill. The team therefore is: Roff Rathbone AAC Beale Gerard Larkham Gregan Favs Smith Finegan Horwill (C) Simmons Kepu TPN Robinson

2020-04-14T13:33:43+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


I tried to Google it, but it didn't come up. Although you did say nice things about him in your final preview and team of the year articles. BTW no Chiefs in your team of the year, shows that we were a true team. Although I liked the way you *ahem* imaginatively got "Gomer" Pyle in ahead of Brodie!

2020-04-14T12:42:17+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Well a 4/5/9/10/11/12/13 combo...... :laughing: I like the 9/10/11 idea - that works, IMO!

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