Eight talking points from NRL Round 6

By Scott Pryde / Expert

It’s been another week of entertaining matches, intriguing storylines and a surprise coach sacking. There is plenty to dissect, so let’s get into NRL talking points for Round 6.

The coaching apocalypse has arrived
It’s been simmering away under the surface for weeks, but after the Warriors moved Stephen Kearney on, there could be plenty of coaching movement ahead.

With the divide between the top and bottom teams growing, it wouldn’t be far fetched to say Paul McGregor, Dean Pay, Paul Green, Anthony Seibold and John Morris are all hanging by a thread.

Couple that with the number of high-quality coaches available – there aren’t many – and teams may jump sooner rather than later to ensure they don’t miss out.

Run through the list and the names which come up are Geoff Toovey, Anthony Griffin, Neil Henry, John Cartwright, Nathan Brown and the unproven duo of Jason Ryles and Craig Fitzgibbon.

Between them, they hold one NRL premiership. It’s not exactly heart-warming for fans thinking a change of coach is the answer.

But with the Cowboys trounced by the Tigers on Saturday and having to play the top seven teams in the next seven weeks, Pay, Morris and McGregor all struggling at the foot of the table, and Seibold seemingly having no idea how to get the best from his youthful roster, the music on the coaching merry-go-round is beginning to play.

While Green may be next to go, the Dragons’ upcoming draw is a nightmare too.

The Warriors moved first, and it wouldn’t be a surprise to see the speculation, rumours and sackings begin in a hurry.

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The Sydney Roosters are favourites… again
Five-day turnaround? No worries.

Lose your fullback and come from behind to win? Easy.

Go on to drive the nail in and win the best game of the season so far by 14 points? Piece of cake.

The clash between the Roosters and Eels might have been the best of the season so far, but by the time it was all said and done, there are few questions remaining about who the premiership favourites are.

Twelve months ago, most people thought going back-to-back was impossible. Now the line is “surely they can’t make it a three-peat?”

But they can. Trent Robinson has got something very special happening at Bondi.

With Cooper Cronk and his nine grand finals of experience no longer around, Kyle Flanagan has come on in leaps and bounds and Luke Keary continues to go from strength to strength. The Sydney forwards are unbelievably well-coached, too.

Saturday was supposed to be a test, but the Roosters, even without James Tedesco for a portion of the second half after he was steamrolled by Maika Sivo, passed with flying colours.

Take nothing away from the Eels – they are right in the premiership race after proving themselves against a powerhouse. But it’s going to take something very special to stop the Roosters.

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South Sydney are better with Cameron Murray in the middle
It’s rare for any coach, let alone Wayne Bennett, to admit he was wrong.

But full credit to the longest-reigning coach in the NRL – he has done just that with Cameron Murray.

Eyebrows were raised in the pre-season when it was announced Murray was going to have a go in the second row. Why would you move one of the top three locks in the competition to the edge?

It was even more baffling when you consider how much the South Sydney style of play needs Murray in the middle third of the field.

They play fast, and the NSW Blue’s play-the-ball speed is lightning. That gives players like Damien Cook and Cody Walker time and space to do what they do best.

It’s little surprise then that Souths’ best two games of the season have been in the last fortnight, with big wins over the Titans and Warriors.

And yeah, it was only the Titans and Warriors, so judgement on this side’s true potential should be reserved, but the signs are more than positive with Murray back to his regular middle-third role.

The numbers aren’t there yet, but they won’t tell the whole story anyhow. It’s his play the ball speed, creativity, and ability to make defenders sweat on his every move that creates scoring opportunities.

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Brisbane are a rabble, but can it be fixed?
As mentioned earlier, Anthony Seibold is under the pump.

Brisbane don’t take failure lightly, and while they have made the finals two years in a row, it hasn’t ended well on either occasion.

2020 is looking like an absolute mess, and another shocking loss to the Knights on Thursday is only going to heap the pressure on.

Even if Seibold was to be let go by the club, it would take a special sort of coach to get this roster working. Think Craig Bellamy or Trent Robinson.

They have too much youth, their recruitment and retention strategies are horrific, and they lack players who are happy to roll the sleeves up and get the job done.

Think players like Dale Finucane or Mitchell Aubusson. They are crucial to the Storm and Roosters respectively, but Brisbane have no one in that class.

The blame heaped on Anthony Milford is unfounded. He might as well be sitting in the dressing rooms while his forward pack are chasing highlights like an NBA star at the slam dunk contest.

Until Brisbane can get an experienced, controlling half, a couple of forwards who will show the youngsters the ropes, and a cleanout from top to bottom, they aren’t going to challenge.

There is talent at the club, but it’s not premiership-winning talent… yet.

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Josh Mansour has finally rediscovered his form
Even for those who could see the Panthers making the top eight this season, their form is beyond anyone’s wildest expectations.

While plenty can be made of Melbourne’s plight thus far in 2020, it was a classy, hard-fought victory for the Panthers on Friday evening which has made rugby league fans sit up and take notice.

You could put it down to a number of factors. Maybe Nathan Cleary’s play since his return, the toughness of their forward pack, or Api Koroisau’s move to the foot of the mountains. But the single biggest driver is Josh Mansour’s return to form.

The modern game, particularly with the six-again rule, is driven by possession and territory. Therefore, getting sets off to a good start from the back is of paramount importance.

It’s little surprise that the top teams have wingers who excel here. Think Daniel Tupou or Blake Ferguson. They work and, more importantly, run hard.

Mansour was once at the top of his class in this area of the game, but had dropped off badly, struggling with injury.

In 2020, he is back to the sort of form that could score him an Origin jumper. While he may only have two tries, he is averaging a tick over 200 metres per game, and has been dangerous in that running, with 14 tackle busts and a line break in each game so far.

Couple that with ten offloads, and you understand why the Panthers are playing above all expectations.

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The Tigers are becoming Australia’s version of the Warriors
The perennially ninth-placed Tigers and their fans are fast learning what it feels like supporting the Warriors.

This season they have been, in a word, inconsistent.

Since returning from the shutdown, they haven’t looked like the same team two weeks in a row. A fast-paced, entertaining victory over the Sharks, an embarrassing loss to the Titans, a hard-fought loss the Raiders, and then this weekend an attacking masterclass before surviving something of a scare in the second half against North Queensland.

They are on a roller-coaster ride, but in a season where consistency is going to count for plenty, the Tigers appear to have none of it.

Michael Maguire’s side have shown their class with the ball, and Harry Grant has made an immense difference playing at hooker. His enthusiasm and vision to play fast suits the Tigers’ young and agile forward pack.

But then they fall asleep, like they did against the Gold Coast, or in the second half on Saturday, and when they fall asleep, particularly in defence, things tend to get messy.

Unless Maguire can find a way to get his side playing 80 minutes week in and week out, another failed campaign will be the result, no matter how exciting they are to watch when things are clicking.

Harry Grant. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

Manly’s Achilles heel strikes
Manly’s biggest problem in 2019 was injuries. Unfortunately for the club, it’s the same again in 2020.

Heading into Sunday’s surprise win over Canberra already minus Martin Taupau, Jorge Taufua and Moses Suli, Des Hasler’s biggest fear has been realised, with Tom Trbojevic now added to the casualty list.

Manly’s numbers last year playing without Trbojevic were horrific. Of the 12 games he played, they won ten. Of the 12 he missed, it was just four.

It shows just how important the star fullback is, and while Manly’s backline is more experienced and in a better spot to handle such an injury than they were last year, they need a lot to go right in the coming weeks.

However, Sunday’s win shows they are up to the challenge. Already missing the aforementioned trio, they lost another three players to finish the game with just 14 fit players. It’s impossible to fault their attitude and commitment.

To win without Trbojevic on a regular basis over the next six weeks, the formula is simple. The forwards must dominate, and Daly Cherry-Evans must cement his status as the best kicking halfback in the competition.

This is becoming an all-too-familiar sight for Manly fans. (AAP Image/Dave Hunt)

Brandon Wakeham must be given a long run
The Bulldogs have plenty of young talent to play alongside Kieran Foran. So much so that their result against Cronulla didn’t matter.

What did was the way the new halves combination played, with Brandon Wakeham coming back into the side for Lachlan Lewis.

While the match was still scrappy, Canterbury offered more in attack with Wakeham in the side than what they have wither either Lewis or Jack Cogger playing.

The finally fit Foran’s spot won’t come under threat, which means it’s up to the three youngsters to fight for the other spot.

Cogger, whose decision-making has been far too slow, is at the back of the line, while Lewis hasn’t kicked on at first-grade level.

It’s difficult to lay the blame for the Bulldogs’ struggles at his feet given the other problems facing the club, but Wakeham provides something the other duo doesn’t appear to. He must be given a long run in the halves to find his feet.

The Crowd Says:

2020-06-24T01:58:48+00:00

Geoff from Bruce Stadium

Roar Rookie


Interesting comments from a Roosters perspective - maybe I'll have another look if I can bear it. My biggest grip is Jack Wighton dies with the ball with the false belief that he has 6 again. If he was convinced that it was last tackle he would have come up with a completely different option - maybe a grubber in goal for a repeat set - or a bomb to the right wing. And who knows what would have resulted from that. By dying with the ball in the middle of the park it provided the opportunity for the play that then unfolded. The Roosters marching up the middle and then spreading it wide to a Raiders defence out of position. The ref erred by signalling 6 again in the first place which impacted on the positioning and possibly possession of the next play. Don't think Soliola's play was worthy of a send off - penalty maybe on second or third viewing - but you got the ball back anyway with a scrum when the ricochet hit one of your trainers who shouldn't have been where he was. I could argue that Papalii should have been awarded a penalty try when Cronk tackled him on suspicion 10 metres from the try line. I would have backed Papalii to score if Cronk hadn't tackled him so the Roosters dodged a bullet and a 6 point deficit there and then managed to keep the Raiders out over the next 10 minutes.

2020-06-24T00:06:08+00:00

ppa19696837

Roar Rookie


I've heard this argument before...that the Raiders didn't have time to reset....that is absolute rubbish that even I believed until re-watching the game (several times now as all us loopy footy heads do when our team wins) By the time the roosters played the ball after the hand over, there was a good 1 to 2 minutes to reset. Then the roosters had 3 hit ups to the centre and right hand side then on the 4th went left wide to Lielua. The defence was set and had 4 tackles to reset, but BJ was left on the ground by Cordner and this is where Keary exposed them down their right edge with numbers. BJ was spent by this stage and found out. Seriously, the Raiders only try came off an incorrect 6 again call also... talk about getting help from the ref. The raiders should have played the game with 12 men after Sia Sliola took out Kearys legs when the ball hit the trainer. The raiders got more dodgy calls go their way than the roosters or at least even. Except people watched with one eye because we love a fairy tale and also hate the roosters. Most peoples comments only came when viewing the game the one time live or on TV or the subsequent news reports that don't show the whole passage of play from bomb to try where most people think the try came in the next tackle!

2020-06-22T21:52:30+00:00

Herewegoagain

Guest


There have been plenty of players that have become “top cattle” under Robbo and Bellamy ,who were identified young. And with Bellamy especially, ( probably because he’s been around longer) players quite often leave and go backwards. The argument that they wouldn’t do well elsewhere has some merit, but when you consider the system they are in at the moment is largely of their doing , why would you leave to prove something to people that don’t really matter.

2020-06-22T13:14:03+00:00

The Spectator

Roar Guru


Jake is the NSW and Au lock so get over it under it who cares! Murray lol! Jake will snap him in half haha!

2020-06-22T12:40:35+00:00

Worlds Biggest

Guest


Cheers Scotty, chiming in for the first time this season. I was like most others very impressed with the Chooks win, that was a heavyweight bout and they were outstanding. The Eels were also impressive. My Rabbitohs are a much better team with Walker however the issue will be the forwards.

2020-06-22T12:35:32+00:00

The Spectator

Roar Guru


Funny how no one WANTS to acknowledge the cocks losing to manly haha but we ain’t scared of any team down at Brooky, bring your best let’s get it on!

2020-06-22T10:37:55+00:00

Forty Twenty

Roar Rookie


It's a good chance for Madge to show his worth in coaching and recruitment over the next couple of years. If the stories were accurate , Madge knocked back approaches from Manly to coach them. Time will tell if that was the wise move that many voiced at the time.

2020-06-22T10:35:17+00:00

SourD

Roar Rookie


I'd say CNK hasn't had the same impact so far this year?

2020-06-22T09:37:17+00:00

no one in particular

Roar Guru


So not recently? They were one trick ponies who got found out very quickly

2020-06-22T09:01:00+00:00

DP Schaefer

Roar Rookie


ooohhhh Burn! :shocked:

2020-06-22T08:56:13+00:00

DP Schaefer

Roar Rookie


sweet, fair point :thumbup:

2020-06-22T08:33:50+00:00

Ja ja klazo

Guest


I'm not saying that he should have changed the call as he did. All I'm saying is that this issue gets totally blown out of proportion and the fact that the correct decision was made in the end is ignored. If you're relying on the ref to make the incorrect decision to win a premiership then you don't really deserve the premiership.

2020-06-22T07:56:37+00:00

Hard Yards

Roar Rookie


Excellent observation souvalis. Cust also has plenty of big game experience. He’s had some outstanding games.

2020-06-22T06:43:41+00:00

Dwanye

Roar Rookie


Yeah, those coach guys are good, but the have top cattle, not sure how much ‘developing’ ticks easts couch can Be given

2020-06-22T06:41:18+00:00

Rellum

Roar Guru


When was the last time anybody other than Robinson did anything?

2020-06-22T06:38:03+00:00

Dwanye

Roar Rookie


Excellent comment DP. Totally a 9 team comp, it sad and it weakens it.

2020-06-22T05:43:06+00:00

Chris Love

Roar Guru


I agree. Seibold was given a long long contract for a reason. It’s also the reason the recruitment and retention has been as it has. They’re overloaded with young star forward talent that I’m sure Seibold was setting up for a long term solution. He’s done the opposite of what Bennett did I’m trying to find short term success at the expense of long term roster problems under the cap. When hose plans were put in place, surely the brains trust at red hill was consulted about the longer term plan and he need to restructure with a big chunk of cap space either perennially injured or consistently under performing. With this forward pack, Bird, Boyd and possibly Milford’s wages either coming into full play or re-signed on far less than current, 2021/22 looks quite good for Brisbane. I think he needs a little slack.

2020-06-22T05:40:27+00:00

Cadfael

Roar Guru


Some good games on the weekend, better than last season. The Manly/Canberra and Easts/Parra were crackers. I did think Easts a touch lucky with the rub of the green going their way. Tedesco should have been binned in the first half.

2020-06-22T05:31:50+00:00

Geoff from Bruce Stadium

Roar Rookie


Nat - I have so many Raiders members scarves and caps I don't know what to do with them. If you ever decide to cross over to greener pastures let me know and I'll mail a couple up to you! You'd think the club might come up with something innovative like a warm club jumper given how flippin cold it gets here but nah - same old cap and scarves! I've got about 10 of each! Mind you I got a green poncho last year and that has got a couple of wears.

2020-06-22T05:30:19+00:00

Nick

Roar Guru


There's no origin to disrupt the season this year, so therefore no club to fool us pre-origin (like the Storm did) and no club to mount the post-origin charge up the ladder. It's only injuries that will get in the way now. I saw enough against the Eels to call it now. Note the time and day. Roosters to win the premiership.

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