An MCG grand final probably can't happen - but where else works?

By Stirling Coates / Editor

I never thought I’d be nodding in agreement with a tweet by Campbell Brown, but 2020 has been full of surprises.

The former Hawthorn and Gold Coast player said Victoria “doesn’t deserve” to host the AFL grand final this year and that it should instead be hosted by the state “most helpful in saving the season”.

Now, I’ll qualify; I don’t believe Victoria doesn’t deserve to host the grand final, but the possibility of having 100,000 people at the decider in a state suffering the worst COVID outbreak by far is getting slimmer by the day.

The horrid nature of this virus – and 2020 – means the situation could be unrecognisable compared to now by the time the decider actually rolls around.

But, even if Victoria starts to recover tomorrow – which I sincerely hope for – it’s unlikely they’ll be in a position to fill the MCG this year. So, where can we take the grand final? Let’s look at the candidates.

‘The most helpful state’ – Queensland

Having the Gold Coast hub for South Australia and Western Australia’s teams has been an utter godsend. We simply wouldn’t have been able to get the season underway without Queensland’s help and it would be nice to reward them.

Metricon Stadium is obviously too small and should be ruled out, with The Gabba obviously the state’s better choice.

With a seating capacity of 41,794, it’s a lot smaller than the MCG, but about the same size as most American baseball venues. You don’t need six-digit crowds to get a good atmosphere – the World Series, among plenty of other events, is proof.

But there are two big problems with the Queensland plan. The first is The Gabba’s status as a cricket venue.

This will be a stumbling block for every venue, but the fact The Gabba is traditionally the venue of the first Test of the summer could be a bigger problem here.

The second is the Queensland heat. The average high for Brisbane in October is 27 degrees, a full three to four degrees higher than every other mainland state capital. That could be enough to see it beaten by somewhere else.

Victoria’s other venues

I can see the pros and cons to a Marvel Stadium grand final. Obviously, if the T20 World Cup goes ahead (which is unlikely) and rules the MCG out, it appears to be the ‘natural’ second choice.

But, given the MCG’s superior capacity has often been used as justification for the grand final’s permanent MCG residence (which, as a non-Victorian, I say is fair enough), hosting the decider at Marvel – when there are two bigger venues outside of Melbourne – would be downright insulting.

While there’s plenty of Vic bias in football media, I don’t believe it’s anywhere near as prevalent in AFL House as is claimed.

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I can appreciate that the AFL’s ownership of Marvel Stadium is a compelling plus, but putting the decider in front of fewer live spectators just to keep it in the ‘home’ city is a bad look and one I can’t get behind.

The shiny new stadium – Western Australia

‘But what about Optus Stadium?’ they ask from Perth. Its capacity can be expanded to a very Super Bowl-esque 70,000 and, being one of the newest venues in the country, would no doubt be a joy to attend for all those involved.

With WA also welcoming back full crowds to their venues soon, there’s a possibility they’ll be the only state prepared to fill their venue up. You’ve also got the added bonus of cricket potentially being shifted to the WACA Ground.

But, on the flip side of the coin, if they’re the only state with COVID under control, nobody will be able to travel to Perth and the conversation could be moot.

The boutique option – South Australia

Another state promisingly close to having COVID under control is South Australia, another football heartland state with a shiny new venue befitting of big events.

(Photo by Mark Brake/Getty Images)

The new and improved Adelaide Oval is vastly more beautiful than Optus Stadium, but its max capacity of 53,583 is smaller than the MCG, Optus and Marvel and, like WA, has the double-edged sword problem in regards to COVID as well.

Still, on aesthetics alone, a grand final at the Adelaide Oval would be my choice if the MCG doesn’t work.

The second biggest venue – New South Wales

Now, however, it’s time to talk the most controversial but – in my view – the most logical solution.

The SCG is smaller still than most other venues suggested here, while Giants Stadium is obviously way too small.

But there’s a long-forgotten (in AFL circles) venue that, once upon a time, hosted the largest non-Victorian crowd for an AFL match ever. ANZ Stadium.

With the NSW Government’s ridiculous plans to renovate the venue scrapped, we’ve got an 81,000-seat (in oval configuration) venue that won’t have any cricket clashes just sitting there, waiting to be used.

Could the AFL return to ANZ Stadium this year? (Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

If you want to put the grand final in front of as many passionate fans as possible, that’s the way to do it. If the Giants do manage to reach the decider again this year, imagine the incredible boost for the game.

This is hardly the most analytical piece I’ve ever written, but I really didn’t feel like talking about Alastair Clarkson and holding the ball again, nor do I feel like telling people with newborn children whether they should or shouldn’t head interstate for a month.

Should the grand final be held at an empty MCG? Where would you want to see it played if not? Keen to hear your thoughts in the comments below.

The Crowd Says:

2020-07-10T11:28:07+00:00

Seano

Roar Rookie


It’s has to be the Gabba, no way the QLD govt will let this slip out of there grip in an election year. They bid 20 mil on the nrl gf, thats good coin straight into the afl coffers.

2020-07-10T08:05:28+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


It was that or nothing. It comes under no known political or financial system I know.

2020-07-10T08:03:52+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


Any part of Tassie would be good. I haven’t been for a while.

2020-07-10T05:27:05+00:00

Captain Obvious

Roar Rookie


ANZ is the worst playing surface in the country, it shouldn't ever have serious sport played on it. There are better junior grounds in Sydney than that awful ground.

2020-07-10T02:15:59+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


Well of all the places in Australia that gets a bad wrap it is Adelaide. I often felt living there was different to what ppl from the Eastern States said it was like. Nowhere suffers from perception is reality syndrome like Adelaide.

2020-07-10T02:06:56+00:00

Yattuzzi

Roar Rookie


I read your name change post :shocked:

2020-07-10T00:58:51+00:00

RT

Roar Rookie


Petro, were you trying to get in first before someone made an Adelaide joke?

2020-07-10T00:55:33+00:00

RT

Roar Rookie


Rowdy, the fact was that those "clubs" agreed to pay those license fees to join the premier competition, so they obviously thought it was a good idea. West Coast (also Brisbane) was privately owned and investors don't part with their money unless they can see a return. I think $4 million was a pretty good investment by West Coast considering the money they are now generating. (Even your club was keen to join well before the West Coast did.) In terms of infrastructure, the AFL owned Waverley but not much else. All clubs provided their own grounds. So I don't think you have much of a case there.

2020-07-10T00:26:39+00:00

SimplySimon

Guest


"The interstate clubs should meet and declare the contract void given it does not fairly represent teams from outside of Victoria" Fair! On what warped and twisted planet can anything about this season be classed as fair ? The reason it doesn't rotate and can never ever rotate is $ Nowhere other than the MCG will you ever put 90k bums on seats, Nowhere other than Victoria will you ever get a public holiday declared for the final and nowhere but Melbourne will you get a GF Parade like they put on through the city centre. That is why you will never have the GF rotated away from Melbourne. This year, well who cares - might as well play it in Alice Springs for all the relevance it has got.

2020-07-09T23:55:00+00:00

Ben Waterworth

Roar Guru


Snug for the Grand Final. Case closed

2020-07-09T21:30:33+00:00

Bangkokpussey

Roar Rookie


As the second oldest football state you would think Adelaide should get a chance at hosting the Grand final, but in the interest of promoting football in the city with a large population and the most potential for growth and at a large venue, Sydney at the ANZ stadium would be too tempting for the AFL to pass up. I'm sure the NSW government would offer some incentives to be able to play the biggest and second biggest grand finals in their city. My unbiased opinion for the venue though is Kardinia Park.

2020-07-09T08:50:32+00:00

Naughty's Headband

Roar Rookie


I got it. It’s just not true. It’s a nice old wives tale to make the fans of the second tier comps feel better. The reality is that the non-Vics couldn’t wait to be part of the premier comp and we’re silly enough to pay us to join our comp. Anyone who thinks Victorian football wouldn’t have survived without them doesn’t know Victorian football and doesn’t know Victorians.

2020-07-09T08:41:22+00:00

The Brazilian

Roar Rookie


Wow. They supplied all that. Legen . . . dary. Disagree big time.

2020-07-09T07:55:46+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


Pittance!!! They had to pay to SUPPLY the league with players, infrastructure and a saleable commodity. Namely bums on seats and lounges to make a pauper's payment to ailing Vic clubs.

2020-07-09T07:39:37+00:00

Fairsuckofthesav

Roar Rookie


Isn't this the same advantage Richmond have had over the last 3 years?

2020-07-09T07:25:18+00:00

Fairsuckofthesav

Roar Rookie


Straight thru to the keeper that one ;)

2020-07-09T06:37:45+00:00

RT

Roar Rookie


When you say AFL freeloaders, are you talking about AFL life members (ex players and the like) and freeloaders who work for a sponsor? I am not sure they will not be invited to a Grand Final regardless of location, though I guess many will not be able to get to some locations. Doesn't Adelaide Oval at least have cricket members too? I wonder if they would be invited. (We established on another thread that the SACA Chairman demands the view of the Cathedral during the cricket, I wonder if that also applies for footy.) Cricket members a moot really, not many would join the MCC if it wasn't for footy. Cricket club by name only. It could stand for Chess Club and it wouldn't matter.

2020-07-09T05:11:05+00:00

Naughty's Headband

Roar Rookie


No, the medicore comps that are the poor cousins to the might of the VFL.

2020-07-09T05:11:02+00:00

Fairsuckofthesav

Roar Rookie


The contract done between the AFL, the Victorian Government and the MCG was not representative of a national competition. No other State Governments or Grounds were consulted. In what world is it equitable for four clubs to be guaranteed home ground advantage in a national competition? The interstate clubs should meet and declare the contract void given it does not fairly represent teams from outside of Victoria. The AFL GF should be rotated between Mebourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide. Until that is acheived it is not a truly national competition. The rotation can start this year.

2020-07-09T04:57:58+00:00

Fairsuckofthesav

Roar Rookie


Do you mean the sanfl and wafl who propped up a bankrupt vfl?

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