The best rugby league players don’t have to play State of Origin

By Daniel John / Roar Pro

State of Origin was born in 1980, pitting New South Wales against Queensland, in a three-game series played under residential eligibility rules.

After two years, the rules were altered to represent where a player was raised and nurtured throughout their junior league days. This is more or less where current eligibility laws sit.

Built on legitimate rivalry, and serving as a selection trial for the Australian Kangaroos Test team, Origin has elevated itself to become arguably the biggest event in the Australian sporting calendar.

Since its inception over 40 years ago, the concept of Origin has evolved into a behemoth. This growth has masked a problem that administrators are still trying to solve – how to figure out a sensible eligibility criterion.

In December 2012, the Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) attempted to do just that, with an updated set of eligibility rules.

These rules ultimately allowed appropriate players to be selected, while maintaining the bitter rivalry and still acting as a focal point for Kangaroos Test squad selection.

This week, ARLC chairman Peter V’Landys announced that he and the board will look into tweaking eligibility laws.

This would allow Tier two nations like Tonga, Samoa, Fiji, Papua New Guinea to be available for State of Origin selection. V’Landy’s also stated that Kiwi players shouldn’t be prevented from participating either.

“We should have the best players in the State of Origin … it’s a pretty stupid rule where we force all those players to play for Australia”.

Firstly, English and Kiwi Test representatives are not eligible for State of Origin because it is essentially still a selection trial for the Kangaroos squad. Under current international eligibility rules, players can only align with one tier one nation in their career regardless of how many they are eligible for.

Historically, England and New Zealand have operated professionally and have earned their status as Tier one nations.

With Origin involving two heartland states of Australia, it makes no sense that a player born and raised in another country, where they’ve played all or a majority of their junior football, could call NSW or Queensland their state of origin.

Ask a Kiwi or Englishman what the pinnacle of the game is, and they will tell you it is playing for your country – as it should be.

However, there is some merit to the idea of involving Tier two nations in Origin. As it stands, players that qualify for both a Tier one and Tier two nation can choose to play for either, without being permanently tied to one.

Examples of this are James Tedesco playing for Italy, and Josh Papalii playing for Samoa in the 2017 rugby league World Cup. Both players have since turned out for the Kangaroos.

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There’s one important thing to remember: Any player representing a Tier two nation who wishes to be selected for State of Origin, must have played the majority of their junior football in either state.

Secondly, they must align with the Kangaroos as their Tier one nation. As long as these qualifiers are satisfied, there is no reason to omit Tier two players from selection.

An example of it not working would be Jason Taumalolo, who currently plays for the Tier two nation of Tonga but is already aligned to tier one with New Zealand. Therefore, Taumalolo is no chance of turning out for Queensland.

Another point to make is that not every Australian player qualifies for Origin either. Take Curtis Rona for example. It wouldn’t matter if he was an absolute gun of a player, under the eligibility rules he would not qualify for either state. This is because the majority of his junior football was played in Western Australia, meaning he can only turn out for Australia or New Zealand.

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In May I wrote an article outlining a revised draw catering for both club and representative football.

The month of June was dedicated to State of Origin and various international Tests and tournaments, with the post-season being dedicated to the usual assortment of international matches.

Although there may be clashes for Tier two nations turning out for Origin in the mid-season, their post-season international involvement will not be hindered. Those lucky enough to be selected for Origin would undoubtedly take that experience back to their respective Tier two nations, making them stronger sides in the process.

Ultimately, State of Origin needs to revolve around players aligning with the Australian Kangaroos whether they represent a Tier two nation or not, while omitting the involvement of Kiwi and English-aligned players. The best players aren’t all from NSW and Queensland.

Opening the eligibility floodgates will tinker too much with the fabric of what makes Origin so special.

So leave the best of the best for the international game.

The Crowd Says:

2020-09-05T04:32:41+00:00

Brisguy51

Roar Rookie


I think it would be interesting as for there has been such an influx of players from the Pacific islands and New Zealand into the NRL. I work in schools in the Brisbane area and a lot of the schools have quite a few students who have come to this region. The majority of them play rugby league and some have already been signed up as schoolboys to NRL clubs. Maybe the NRL when a club signs up a player they can ask the player that if they come under selection whether they want to play SOO or not and which country they would like to represent.

2020-09-04T09:23:32+00:00

Greg

Roar Pro


"but ultimately with this concept still utilised as a Kangaroos trial". See I don't see origin as being a Kangaroos trial at all, and in my opinion nor should it be. Each state coach as well as the national coach will have different plans and want different players suited to their individual plans. The most recent example is Latrell Mitchell being selected for Australia last year despite being dropped by NSW but has been occurring since Steve Roach in 89. The duration between an origin game and an Australian test match means it wont ever be used as a trial as form and fitness changes. If scheduling was to ever change, or your proposed NZ v England series ever came to fruition id probably lean more towards your opinion but until such a time will have to agree to disagree.

2020-09-04T03:23:43+00:00

Dwanye

Roar Rookie


What they are best to do is leave Origin as is and ‘build’ or make/promote international games as a big event.

2020-09-04T01:38:49+00:00

Ray Paks

Roar Rookie


I couldn't imagine seeing Shaun Johnson playing for NSW or Qld. Just leave it as it is or you'll spoil it.

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2020-09-04T01:28:40+00:00

Daniel John

Roar Pro


In my opinion it shouldn’t because Lebanon is still a tier two nation and Josh is still aligned with NSW - he effectively fits the criteria I believe should be set out which is: 1. Must have grown up and played all or majority of junior footy in said state; 2. Align with Australia as your tier one nation, regardless if you qualify for a tier 2 nation

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2020-09-04T01:25:19+00:00

Daniel John

Roar Pro


Hi Greg, My opinion for not letting NZ or England players participate in State of Origin is the fact they’re tier one nations. . There is an argument that if you grew up in one of the states but have tier one heritage (e.g. hypothetically if Kalyn Ponga chose NZ) that you should be able to play - but ultimately with this concept still utilised as a Kangaroos trial then players that cannot play for Australia (tier one reps aligning with nz or eng) effectively take up a spot. . I am a strong supporter of the international game, so this isnt the matter of strengthening Australia, because if tier two nations satisfy the stated criteria then I dont mind if they play SOO, I just feel that NZ should play England in their own three-game series during origin for more rep exposure.

2020-09-04T00:28:44+00:00

Greg

Roar Pro


in this same example what if a tier two qualifying player, we will just use Mansour for the sake of argument, does choose Australia as their tier one nation. However, chooses Lebanon as his first choice, so in World Cups or say a weekend where Lebanon and Australia both have test matches he puts Lebanon before Australia. Should this affect his origin eligibility?

2020-09-04T00:19:33+00:00

Greg

Roar Pro


I agree with The Barry, if a NSW or Qld player wants to represent both NSW and their Nation of heritage I don't see the issue, so long as they fit the eligibility of both. I don't see why there should be a difference for someone who has English or NZ heritage compared to someone who has Italian, Lebanese, Samoan etc heritage.

2020-09-03T15:34:02+00:00

Pickett

Roar Rookie


I'm a big fan of Vlandys, but don't agree with him on this one. Leave SOO as is.

2020-09-03T11:51:30+00:00

B. Flower

Guest


State of Origin is and always will be the pinnacle of Rugby League. Atleast people respect State of Origin

2020-09-03T11:49:58+00:00

Armidale Armadillo

Guest


And the diehard International Rugby League fans wonder why the rest of society just shake their heads at International Rugby League..

2020-09-03T10:38:48+00:00

DAVEC

Roar Rookie


be interesting to see how it works

AUTHOR

2020-09-03T08:24:21+00:00

Daniel John

Roar Pro


I agree with tier two reps that grew up in NSW/QLD turning out for their respective side as long as they also align with Aus as their tier 1 nation. Any player aligned to NZ or England shouldn’t be able to play. . I still believe SOO is used as the main focal point for the makeup of the Kangaroos squad. Besides Keary, Meninga has chosen squads filled with SOO reps.

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2020-09-03T08:12:57+00:00

Daniel John

Roar Pro


The passion for country and state may be similar for some, especially for those that have choices. That isn’t the issue. I just feel Kiwi and Englishmen shouldn’t be able to play considering their stance in the game as tier one nations. There is an argument that if a Kiwi or Pom grows up in NSW or QLD then why shouldnt they be picked, but I am still not a fan. . On Tonga/Samoa/PNG/Fiji/Lebanon/Italy etc. these tier two nations have not got the same professional setup as the tier one nations do, therefore if a tier two rep can satisfy criteria that their juniors and upbringing falls in NSW/QLD then why not let them play? So’s long as they also choose Australia as their tier one nation. This means someone like Josh Mansour could be passionate for where he grew up (NSW) and his heritage (Lebanon).

2020-09-03T05:18:17+00:00

Adam Bagnall

Roar Guru


That was the interstate games. Specifically under Origin it didn't start until 1983 when

2020-09-03T03:48:20+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


There has always been a minimum 3 game interstate series right since 1909. Prior to the 1970's these series were sometimes four, five or even six games. The only difference between the history of interstate games and current Origin set up since 1983 is the eligibility. From 1980 to 1981 there was still a 3 match series, it's just that two of them were played under residential rules. So there is a fair bit of history to say a 3 game series is fair enough.

2020-09-03T01:59:50+00:00

Nick

Roar Guru


Bang on GH. Perfectly possible to have dual loyalties (although the architects of our constitution & current high court clearly thought otherwise with section 44 - lol).

2020-09-03T01:56:45+00:00

Nick

Roar Guru


Yeah, but it's not the fault of SOO or Australia the other countries are crap. Look at this North v South rugby match that will take place in NZ. That will be of a higher quality than any Bledisloe match.

2020-09-03T01:53:47+00:00

Nat

Roar Rookie


Sry GH, I did reply. Not sure if it went to Mod - shouldn't have. Fair comment though.

2020-09-03T01:46:52+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


“why would a Tongan/Kiwi/Pom etc want to represent Qld/NSW?” Someone brought up in NSW or Qld cheering for their Origin side, but electing to play for Tonga for heritage reasons is a very realistic situation The emotional reasoning is understandable but they also potentially satisfy eligibility criteria for both

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