The problem with 'bias': Why this Queenslander backs Phil Gould

By Lonnie Gilroy / Roar Rookie

I know I risk turning in my Queenslander card over this, but I have something to admit: I don’t mind Phil Gould. In fact… I kind of like him.

I understand the complaints. I agree with some.

I cannot abide the referee bashing. I detest his denigration of NRL head office and his obvious hold over those in power now. He has his agendas and his obsessions and his ego, like most successful media types, and his twittering sometimes grates.

I see all that. However, I also see an intelligent thinker, a football nerd with more experience than most of us punters.

Not that you can’t have an opinion as a fan – this website surely wouldn’t exist if that was the case – however, I just have to respect Gus as a bloke who played and coached at the highest levels, and up until recently, was still involved in the day-to-day operations of a football club.

Some NRL personalities are still riding high from long forgotten glories – legends, for sure, but identities whose rugby league experience ended quite some time previously. Gould’s ‘back in my day’ extends to the 1970s, but also to just last year (and perhaps even to today, with his new Warriors gig).

More than that, he’s articulate, witty and he undeniably loves the game. He’s done more for the sport than most of us put together. I’d never agree with him on everything, but I’d love to have a beer and pick his brain about the greatest game of all.

Phil Gould (Photo by Mark Metcalfe/Getty Images)

Yet the one aspect that most people dislike I can’t help but enjoy: Gould’s ‘biased’ commentary. After Sunday night’s Storm-Panthers grand final, Gould was criticised for being biased. To that I say… yes. And? So what?

He’s a Panthers man through and through. He’s not soley responsible for their success this year, but he certainly laid the groundwork as General Manager in the eight years prior. And the rugby league literate among us know where his loyalties lie.

So, really what’s being called for is for Gus to hide his true feelings. We want him to disguise emotions – emotions that we all know are there.

Is the goal here a sort of coy theatrical performance, where we understand what Gould is really thinking inside, yet expect him to play pretend as an impartial observer, all so that the commentary is (hollowly, falsely) ‘unbiased’? How bizarre.

The expectation is, of course, the issue. We do desire a certain level of professionalism from our commentators; balanced and even-handed observations chiefly among them. I think that’s appropriate.

If you’re supporting one team, you don’t want them to be disparaged unfairly, and if you’re a casual viewer, you hope the presentation is not unfairly favouring one side.

I’ll admit Gould tipped his hand here during the grand final telecast, too often focussing on how events would affect the Panthers and not enough time concentrating on the Storm’s stellar performance.

I think this is really where things went wrong – rather than overtly supporting his boys, Gould was forced to couch his support in impartial language. It didn’t work – we all knew what he was truly thinking. We understood that his heart was overriding his reasoning. The commentary suffered for it.

My solution? Let’s remove this expectation for commentators to be unbiased. We all know their leanings. Let’s allow them to sing it out proudly with no need to dance this delicate ‘neutral’ jig.

What harm is there? We might work out that if Johnathan Thurston reckons the Cowboys will be in the top eight next year, he might be a little deluded in their favour?

We’ll be forced to admit that Sterlo is partial to the Eels. We’ll have to recognise that Fatty is one of the funniest men in Australia. (That last one doesn’t really fit, but it’s still true).

Maybe if Gus had been allowed to state clearly and unequivocally that he was viewing everything with a Penrith slant on Sunday night, we’d be more accepting of his incongruous view that they were on top, despite being fourteen points down. We might also forgive him from making Suliasi Vunivalu’s magnificent try more about Nathan Cleary’s vision than the Fijan’s unbelievable speed and evasiveness.

If we can’t accept the commentators might have some personal feelings in such a game that trades on passion, well, maybe we shouldn’t have commentators at all. Or maybe we should prohibit any potentially biased voice from the commentary box… and ensure we have a passionless product.

Phil Gould. (Photo: Tony Feder/Getty Images)

Let me put it to you this way: you’ve identified a commentator is biased… what now? How does this change the game at all?

It can be annoying, sure. It affects your experience of the televised presentation. But if you’re smart enough to work out Gus is biased towards Penrith, then I reckon you’re smart enough to know it doesn’t matter that much, in the grand scheme of rugby league.

Why? Because it doesn’t affect the match’s outcome. There are only two groups of people we should demand unbiased, dispassionate views on sport: the match officials and the NRL. The result needs to be adjudicated by a disinterested party, and head office should have no concerns other than the good of the game.

I’m not arguing that the media has no impact on the game; just that we need to put this into perspective. If, as I suggested above, an obviously subjective commentator was able to clearly and explicitly offer subjective commentary – that wouldn’t be such a bad thing!

Instead, we should consider other imperatives for a professional sporting telecast, factors I reckon are far more important than the commentators having some skin in the game. Firstly, I’d wager fans want the best experts available (and sadly not rubes like me, however insightful my Roar articles might be).

Consequently, you’re going to end up with former players and coaches who will have strong associations with certain teams. They should present their opinions openly and honestly, and always report the truth. But should Billy Slater be overlooked for a commentary gig because he has an affinity for the Storm? Absolutely not.

I also consider the conduct and ‘spirit’ of broadcast hosts and commentators to be more important than occasional biases showing through. Thankfully we’re long past the The Footy Show and its (of the time, sure, but still) questionable treatment of women.

Nine’s coverage is only improved by the presence and perspectives of its female analysts, especially Allana Ferguson and Ruan Sims. Over the years, and especially during cricket season, we’ve all seen too many overly blokey commentary teams who are too focused on themselves, or excessively negative about the match at hand, especially about the match officials.

Ruan Sims made the transition from player to commentator – and has improved Nine’s league coverage. (NSWRL / Facebook)

Commentators, such as they have an influence on the game, play an important part in setting the overall tone of discussion. Constantly complaining about decisions, questioning the performance of match officials, whinging about NRL head office – these are all things that have a far more corrosive effect on rugby league discourse than a bloke supporting the team we know he played for.

Now I do I realise that complaining about decisions, questioning match officials and whinging about NRL head office all feature on the Gus Gould bingo card. I never said he was perfect. I wish he spent more time opening up his football brain and talking the game up.

In my view he’s not alone in directing too much righteous condemnation towards the imperfect human beings we call referees and offering too much leeway to reckless players (how many times can a swinging arm really bounce off a ball and hit someone on the chin?).

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Nevertheless, I take issue with Gould being critiqued for loving his team too much. For a game that lives and dies on tribalism, we shouldn’t lose our minds when someone has a tribe. As you sit there in the stands or in front of your TV, decked out with your jersey and your flag, consider whether it’s so bad our commentators might have personal feelings about who wins and loses.

Admit to yourself that if Gus turned up on TV with Panther facepaint, you wouldn’t outright respect him.

One thing I know for certain: Gould won’t care what anyone thinks. He’s said as much already.

Just like he coached his players to understand their role for his successful teams, Gus must appreciate the part he plays for Channel Nine’s commentary. He’s the provocateur. I do think he genuinely offers his honest opinions, but he also understands how to provoke outrage and stir us all up. In Queensland he knows he’s a villain, especially during State of Origin.

And that’s fine! You’re supposed to get passionate about your footy. You’re supposed to despise some players and barrack unrelentingly for your team and throw the remote at the TV when Gus says something stupid.

Honestly, it’s all rather good for this pantomime we call rugby league. You don’t get attention, clicks, Twitter outrage and articles like this without passion and that’s what Gus inspires. And you certainly wouldn’t get anything interesting if everyone was neutral, detached and, yes, unbiased.

The Crowd Says:

2020-10-29T05:17:49+00:00

U

Roar Rookie


Wally is like Sterlo. A true professional as a broadcaster. Too often they’re swept aside for loudmouths like Gus and Ray Hadley

2020-10-29T05:16:37+00:00

U

Roar Rookie


Good point. An opposing viewpoint would be good come origin time. Vautin is past it

2020-10-29T05:15:40+00:00

U

Roar Rookie


I’ve always said that no commentator should ever say “we” when talking about a team that’s playing the game they’re calling. But Gould, Warren and Fatty do that all the time. Ray at least gives credit where credit is due most of the time and Fatty has mellowed in his barracking for the maroons. No sign of that from Gus. Time for young blood in the box at 9. It’s tragic how they kicked out Vossy years ago. He should’ve taken the top job and then Warren could’ve been put out to pasture a decade ago

2020-10-27T15:24:32+00:00

Mike B

Guest


Gus is obviously a brilliant league coach/admin person but he isn't a great commentator. I think it would be best to use him solely for pre-game, half time and post game analysis as he really can relay some wisdom there. Rabs needs to retire. So many gaffs now and incorrect word choices. At the start of the GF he pointed out that Penrith's two previous GF wins had "ironically" happened in years they had also won the minor premiership! How is that ironic? Interesting perhaps - but ironic? I would suggest it actually happens quite often. I know that's a minor gaff but I've heard dozens this year from Rabs. Wrong names (Craig Cook instead of Damien Cook) and a host of errors that his fellow commentators just let go through to the keeper. Or should we just embrace his growing quirks and gaffs? - as we did with Rex Mossop who talked of players "plumbing the heights" and teams "reversing backwards".

2020-10-27T13:38:51+00:00

M

Guest


Great article Lonnie. I enjoyed his bias and like his comments. In fact, his opinion was not too far from reality. If Gus was coaching the Panthers in the GF, that is exactly what he would be telling his team at half time.

2020-10-27T11:41:27+00:00

Marlin

Roar Rookie


When the score was 20 - 0 I thought to myself The hapless Panthers are bloody lucky to be nil

2020-10-27T06:06:33+00:00

JOHN ALLAN

Guest


If Ruan Sims has improved Channel 9’s NRL coverage, then it must have been worse than dire beforehand.

2020-10-27T05:51:43+00:00

Big Daddy

Guest


Gould has a passion for the game and is loyal to the club he first played and I don't doubt his knowledge. Then he opens his opinionated mouth and the rest of the fools on CH 9 hang off every word. But what intrigues me is not one of them will disagree with each other wether it be it player or commentator.

2020-10-27T05:44:22+00:00

Big Daddy

Guest


Why would Wally step that low. You've got to be kidding.

2020-10-27T03:38:19+00:00

jimmmy

Roar Rookie


I like the guy. Yeah, he doesn't quite get the contrast between shade and light right , but he loves the game and his enthusiasm for it makes up for a few. deficiencies . Still each to his own. In his prime Rabs was a great caller. It's just that his prime was 20 years ago.

2020-10-27T03:13:50+00:00

Big Mig

Roar Rookie


Well put Lonnie, Gould has done more for the good of the game than most, he is the "supremo' and deserves the respect. He is unashamedly Panthers, and so he should be. When I hear commentators like Anasta (unfortunately) speak I know it will be roosters drivel, so whenever the roosters are playing you just tune off his commentary or accept them for what their worth. For all those criticising Gould on Channel 9, they should stop and count their blessings for it could be much much much worse, you could have Peter FitzSimon (the ‘twit’ or ‘Pirate’ as Larry Pickering would call him), with all his virtue signalling of identity politics, now that is really ugly, he deserves to be unheard, he has done nothing of good anytime, anywhere unlike the good man Gould.

2020-10-27T03:05:56+00:00

Randy

Roar Rookie


Gould's problem is his agendas, which is a shame because he is otherwise a treasure of the game. He is incredibly articulate and even shows some deep thinking which you wouldn't expect for Rugby League. He is horribly sydney centric though and stuck in the past.

2020-10-27T01:58:22+00:00

qwetzen

Roar Rookie


Nope. There's a lot there which I disagree with Lonnie. Strongly. But rather than go through it line by line, my bottom line is that media bias in this day and age is a bad, bad thing. The best example of this is Rupert Murdoch. With his unequaled media clout, he's been decisive in getting the government he wanted in the USA, GB & Oz for decades now. And the main benefit he gets from the bias he aggressively promotes is the same benefit that sportspeople gain from bias. Money. Do you doubt that the smear campaign against Cam Smith has cost him a few dollars in product deals? And what about the difference between what a Sheffield Shield player earns to a Test player. It's vast. So in say, cricket, with a heavy bias towards players from one State (hint: It's the State where every TV network has its HQ) we've seen decades worth of lesser players being disproportionately rewarded. Forget hiding bias behind "passion", some of us want impartiality.

2020-10-27T01:58:17+00:00

Ben Pobjie

Expert


It's not so much that Gould wants his team to win, as that he deludes himself into thinking they ARE winning, when they're not. Also, "witty". Heh, good one.

2020-10-27T01:45:45+00:00

JOHN ALLAN

Guest


Agree about Richie. At the conclusion of the “Underarm ODI” he said “That was one of the worst things I have seen on the cricket field”. Wonder how he would have rated Sandpapergate? Successful journalist and a true gentleman. I was at the SCG when his brother John as NSW captain recalled a WA batsman when he was given out as there was doubt about a catch. Used to be called The Gentlemen’s Game. Apologies for going off topic.

2020-10-27T01:43:11+00:00

jimmmy

Roar Rookie


They would have won by 20 if Artie had played.!

2020-10-27T01:32:16+00:00

qwetzen

Roar Rookie


Smith (with a tragic mullet in the clip jimmmy mentions) also occasionally lets it slip that attends Tigers' practices. He's one of the gang of commentators who believe that Shouting Makes It Exciting! I'm not a fan of that clan.

2020-10-27T01:29:00+00:00

Phil

Roar Rookie


Gould has an inflated ego and thrives on it. For a team to be down 22-0 and say they were the better side is silly comment. His bias towards Penrith did nothing for the quality of the telecast which caused a lot of negative feedback with him going on radio to defend his inane comments. The best callers are the ones who enhance the viewing experience. The best co-hosts give a critique of certain plays, with Andrew Johns and Sterlo being the best two at ch9. This year is the first time I've watched all games on Kayo except for the GF and it is much better than nine. The only poor co-host they have is Michael Ennis who overtalks the caller too much. As for the best sport commentator I've heard, it was Richie Benaud who only said what was needed to say. Sometimes a couple of words can have more impact than a long winded monologue.

2020-10-27T01:18:33+00:00

Walter Black

Guest


I have nothing against Gould nor his bias towards Penrith but the big issue I have is when the entire commentary panel are sydney siders giving none NSW clubs and particularly the Storm a tough ride from every angle, disputing every single decision that goes their way. The Rugby League media were relentless in sticking the boot into the storm during the finals (yet again) and especially in the build up to the Grand Final. Some of that mud raking was vicious and nasty like dragging up a statement from Alex McKinnon (all respect to Alex) 2 days before the Grand Final. We had players considering moving on, contract dramas, Smith's retirement (every other day), Salary Cap, Smith is the Goat, Smith is not the goat, wrestling techniques, chicken wings and tons of other stuff I can't even remember. That is the sort of bias that is sickening, the Penrith favouring Gould is positively inconsequential in comparison.

2020-10-27T01:06:53+00:00

Forty Twenty

Roar Rookie


I've watched the 2008 GF a couple of times and despite Manly winning 40 nil , with a bit of luck the Storm could have been well in front at half time. In 2020 the Storm had most of the luck and when they combined that with good play and some poor play and mistakes from the Pennies they were in front at half time and the game was close to decided . This GF was there to be won by the Pennies and if they played to their potential I reckon they would have. Goulds comment was accurate in my opinion taken in the context it was clearly delivered in.

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