What ails the All Blacks? Marginal pack decline

By Harry Jones / Expert

I watched the Argentina victory over New Zealand again.

I decided to look closely at the ‘nots’. Not-Brodie Retallick lock. Not-Kieran Read at eight. Not-really-a-Test-six: Shannon Frizell. And not-Dane Coles, who is currently inhabiting Dane Coles’ body.

First, I looked at Patrick Tuipulotu, every single involvement in ten-minute chukkas. Paddy was dynamic in club rugby this year. In fact, he was a revelation. Strong, dynamic and a leader for the Blues. It was easy to focus on him because of his blonde hair and luminescent boots.

Also, he moved quite slowly. I want to say he looked a bit heavy in contrast to the Argentine locks as well as Sam Whitelock. If you are going to carry that extra five kg, then you better use it to shift bodies at the ruck or be a bulwark in the scrum.

The other thing about a lock four is at Test level, you have to be ‘that guy’. The guy in the team that scares you a bit. Not just the other team, but your own mates need to watch out for you as you steamroll or grapple or tackle-second or attack a maul. Think of Bakkies Botha, Eben Etzebeth, George Kruis, Courtney Lawes, Paul O’Connell or the great Retallick himself.

And this is the point: when we talk about elite sport, we always say it is small margins.

The gap between the best All Black team of all time (2015) and a pretty ordinary version of the Springboks who lost to Japan, was one penalty goal (Pat Lambie was going to make it, maybe, until the penalty was reversed for a silly Victor Matfield neckroll) or a drop goal made by Dan Carter because neither team was going to score a try in that last quarter in the semi-final rain.

And that was an All Black team stacked with once-in-a-generation talent and tested nous.

So, how much more will a negative margin cost you when rebuilding with a new coach?

Case in point: the margin between Retallick’s energy, venom, rate of involvement and skill, and that of new lock Tuipulotu is perhaps more than ‘small’.

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Tuipulotu’s four chukkas in the first half, when the All Blacks fell behind 3-16, were notable for how his energy levels went from average to poor. In contrast, Retallick often finished Tests playing harder than when he started. He also put himself in strong positions on the field – he did not wait.

I found ‘involvements’, which meant actions in which Paddy was integral, not merely a scrum, for example. I classified each as positive, neutral or negative.

First ten minutes (11 total involvements)
Positive: one good maul guide, two neat passes, one good ruck clean.

Neutral: four normal ruck attendances, one tackle, one lineout take and one carry.

He never left the left side of the field.

Second ten (seven involvements)
Positive: one good pass out the back, one strong maul swim.

Neutral: three soft ruck shows, one tackle made.

Negative: one missed tackle.

His pace had slowed to a jog. None of his ruck actions were forceful or painful to the opposition. He stayed at home.

Third ten (seven involvements)
Positive: one very good lineout win above a compete.

Neutral: four rucks attended tamely, one tackle.

Negative: one knock-on (it was a bad pass, but Retallick scoops that).

Fourth ten (one involvement only)
Positive: one great lineout disrupt (forced All Black scrum from Puma lineout).

Paddy did not sprint back (as Sam Whitelock did) on the Tomas Cubelli break, so he was not the one to slow the ball and save the try. He did not run hard during the Nico Sanchez chip and chase try, and you have to think Retallick would have run with his hair on fire and maybe smashed someone or early tackled or dove into the mix to make it harder.

Halftime would have been brutal. Involvements had gone 11-7-7-1 by chukka, with the vast percentage merely neutral. Twice as many neutral as positive. Retallick is almost never in that ratio, which is why he is almost always in MOTM contention.

If I was Sam Whitelock, I would have told Tuipulotu he had to keep up with me, the old man.

So, did Paddy wake up in the second half? No, he started even slower.

First ten in the second half (five involvements)
Neutral: two soft ruck contributions.

Negative: one bad maul defence from 44:00 to 44:45, where he had to reload twice, ball ripped out his carry and missed the lift on Whitelock in a lineout, resulting in a steal.

He did not explode into both of his box charge-down attempts and never worked himself into a good carrying space.

(Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

Second ten in the second half (eight involvements)
Positive: helped Sam Cane over the try line, but probably unnecessary, one good cleanout.

Neutral: one maul ride, two ruck stands, one good tackle.

Negative: one maul detach. One missed tackle.

Paddy seemed to lift a bit, as the whole team lifted with the try. But his charge-down attempts were ineffective, a key point for a four. He never even got in Cubelli’s view.

Third ten in the second half (four involvements)
Positive: cleaned out Pablo Matera and won a penalty.

Neutral: attended a ruck on attack in the 22 but fell off, supported another.

Negative: did not fall on a loose ball which could have ignited a broken play counter, waited for the scrum.

Again, Paddy was outworked by Whitelock. He did not look angry. He played decoy on running lanes. He faded. He was replaced.

So, I noted 43 discrete involvements: 11 good, 24 okay and eight poor. His work rate dipped in both halves.

This is not to bash Tuipulotu. This is to praise Retallick and study how big a loss he is. He is one of those margins in elite sport. Not a small one, in fact.

And what about the margin between Kieran Read’s typical performances and this one by Ardie Savea? First, there is the margin of the tale of the tape. Someone reading this will contest my measurements and point to Ardie’s off-the-charts leg drive.

But Read is five to seven cm taller than Ardie with a very wide shoulder frame and easily has ten kilograms on him – forget the team sheet. So, Savea has to be that much more active than Read.

Read was an underrated defender. He made game-changing tackles. He could jar even big carriers.

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I did not look at every involvement by Savea. But he won just over one metre per carry, broke no tackles, made no breaks and made the same number of tackles as Richie Mo’unga. He was not as passive as Paddy (and he did win four lineouts) but he did not exactly go looking for extra work, either.

The thing is if you lose ten per cent by having Tuipulotu instead of Retallick, and then you lose five per cent from substituting Savea for Read, you had better make that up somewhere. Sam Cane is Sam Cane, the same as he ever was. Better than most, but not as good as Richie McCaw, and on this day, shaded by Pablo Matera and Marcos Kremer.

So, Frizell? Well, both Paddy and Frizell only made six tackles apiece. Frizell made no passes, no offloads and broke no tackles.

Dane Coles needs to find Dane Coles again. The angst-ridden face is getting old. Less time lecturing Pumas on how they must behave, more time finding seams to run in.

The challenge for the All Blacks is to find more muscle and malice from their forwards, and perhaps selection is an issue at four, six and eight.

Roarers, who do you least appreciate?

The Crowd Says:

2020-11-26T14:02:00+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


He was a beast before he went to France

2020-11-26T13:56:39+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


In retrospect it shouldn't be a surprise. Argentina have come very close at least 3-4 times in the last decade.

2020-11-25T00:45:32+00:00

Muglair

Roar Rookie


Even then, too little too late. The game possibly lost days before the opening whistle. The Pumas must be tiring going into the third game and I expect the ABs to step up big time and put the trophy beyond doubt. Confident on the former but if the latter fails to emerge from the dressing room we might not see Foster again either. In the good old days I am sure their team mates would have promptly doused the flames in the traditional way using the supplied facilities, but I noted their hair was not wet either!

AUTHOR

2020-11-23T13:18:28+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


The Irish anglicized the game.

AUTHOR

2020-11-23T13:18:03+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Dalton-Cane-Sotutu (Ardie) would be what I roll out there to defuse Kremer-Matera-Isa (Bruni).

AUTHOR

2020-11-23T13:16:31+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


The rule changes were probably influenced by the Irish Kiwi (Joe) and best understood by the Irish Saffa (Rassie) who had the best players to fit the new interpretations, because Ireland is too small, and the rules reward big (SA, FR, ENG) or fast (NZ, Wales), but then all the big-fast Kiwis went away or got hurt or old (BR, BR, KR/SW) and now they wish the old laws were back. Advantage SA as they get 25 million new fast guys (some of them big) into the sport.

2020-11-23T13:10:21+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


It's mostly interpretation changes. Driven from the north to improve Rugby as an entertaining sport It doesn't matter to NZ where the changes come from. But they are the best and fastest to adapt

2020-11-23T11:25:23+00:00

BrewsterBandit

Roar Rookie


Right up there with Kronfeld, Jones, Zinzan. Or Smith, Finnegan, Kefu. Or Kruger, Venter, Teishman/SKinnstad....

2020-11-23T08:15:29+00:00

valleybeanie

Roar Rookie


It's fair to say there area number of locks, loose forwards and half backs in particular with plenty to play for in 2021 Super Rugby, though I'm not sure how plentiful the lock stocks are. Surely Foster will start with Akira Ioane at no.6 and Sotutu should get plenty of game time.

AUTHOR

2020-11-23T08:00:39+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Yes, but Brodie is faster/fitter than Paddy, hits more rucks, and passes better. But your points are tasty. Testy. Delicious. Especially the rule change point. Where did the rules come from? Not kiwis.

2020-11-23T07:06:35+00:00

H

Guest


Kaino was so good he left 2011 came back 2014 and still outplayed mccaw

2020-11-22T23:33:06+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


Thanks Haazaaaa. ABs were defeated even with Brodie and Ichiban around, especially in the past few years. They are not strong compared to other teams, but they are faster and fitter. They use their group intelligence and fitness to undermine the relative power of other teams. The laws and interpretations change around so much, other nations take time to adjust and train to apply them - Kiwis dont. They adjust immediately as a team and play well no matter what. - They play the Ref on the day, better than most - Now the law and interpretations are much more stables, other teams are preparing well, and catching up Heck apparently even ARG is doing it. Though I think ABs are going to bounce back!

2020-11-22T23:28:07+00:00

mzilikazi

Roar Pro


Johnson ...forgot him...probably a defence mechanism :happy:

2020-11-21T21:38:46+00:00

moaman

Roar Guru


If i recall correctly (and it's a big if) Kaino wasn't that well-regarded when he first moved into Jerry Collins' shoes. It took years before the commentators even began to pronounce his name properly! Ma'a Nonu had a similar modest beginning and developed his game wonderfully. Ended up in the GOAT conversation category. It's for that reason I regard Shannon Frizzell a bit more highly than many people here do. I think Frizzell is playing his heart out. He isn't breaking the line like I would hope but nor is anyone else.He is having to play very tight. When Ardie is only making a bare one metre then you know there is some system failures.

AUTHOR

2020-11-21T21:24:18+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Fine post, sir!

AUTHOR

2020-11-21T21:23:04+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


10 kg at least !

2020-11-21T21:16:05+00:00

moaman

Roar Guru


Isa looked fantastic when he came on last night.

2020-11-21T21:13:52+00:00

moaman

Roar Guru


"Don’t underestimate boring rugby. Its a myth if you ask me." It is definitely not a myth if you get too much of it! We could be heading for an era dominated by 10-man rugby and defensive walls, resetting of reset -scrums and watching the latest iteration of Jonny Wilkinson psyching himself up for yet another kick at goal. Be careful what you wish for!

2020-11-21T21:08:29+00:00

moaman

Roar Guru


I blamed Reiko Ioane for doing that too--live---but had a good look later and ended up exonerating him.Angles deceived me, I think.

2020-11-21T21:07:44+00:00

Sinclair Whitbourne

Roar Rookie


I found Mains an unattractive, perplexing and cantankerous individual but he was a very smart thinker on the game. His selections at test level (and bits and pieces of his published thoughts) really suggested to me that he saw other sides as able to do what NZ had been doing but that one thing very few would be able to do was to keep up with the ability to play very fast, accurate rugby combined with high levels of physicality. I felt that he struggled to find the players with the balance of qualities he needed until things clicked after the disastrous 1994 season. That 1995 RWC side played some of the most wonderful rugby I have ever seen. Hart then benefited from what Mains had set up. Hart had a difficult transition in players in 1998, which i think he botched and then Smith really took things on but also had a difficult transition to manage - sadly for him at a time when Oz had a very good system in place, with players to match. Mains and Smith are two of my rugby thinking permanent politburo members. Huge statues, embalming, mausoleums, songs etc. to follow.

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