Penrith want compensation for a fourth-choice half with six games to his name

By Joe Frost / Editor

Penrith are set to lose a player they saw fit for six first-grade matches over the past two seasons. And they are furious about it.

Last week, the Bulldogs signed Matt Burton and the Panthers reckon they should be compensated for the time they put in developing the young man.

“It’s disappointing for our fans when we’ve brought [Burton] up from 17 years of age and had coaches coaching him to get his skills where they are, and to have him snatched out of your hands and get no reward for the efforts we’ve put in to promoting the game [is hard to take],” Panthers CEO Brian Fletcher was quoted as saying in the Sydney Morning Herald.

“There’s something wrong with the system. It doesn’t encourage anybody to have a pathway system and development system like we’ve got.

“Why would you have one when they get to the potential of playing NRL, someone comes and grabs them?”

As for a workaround, Fletcher told Nine in a separate interview, “If he’s paid X amount of dollars to go there, part of that to the first year should go back to the club that developed him.”

It’s an issue worthy of discussion and one that the league has not paid sufficient respect to over the years.

But my question is: why should another club pay you for developing a guy you only consider worthy of your reserves?

My headline is admittedly facetious because Burton is considered up there with the best emerging talent in the NRL.

But it’s still the case that since making his debut for the Riff in August 2019, he’s played a total of six games.

This despite the fact Tyrone May, one of Burton’s main positional competitors, was ineligible to play for the entirety of 2019 and the first eight matches of 2020.

You want to hold on to your best players? The way I see it, there are two options.

You either pay them commensurate money to what they will receive elsewhere or, if that’s not really on the cards, you ensure they are enjoying their football so much that they are happy to take unders and stay.

What did Penrith do? Neither.

In the midst of this year’s 17-match winning streak, the club surely understood that they had a hell of a job ahead of them in keeping their squad together and big money wasn’t going to be available for Burton.

Matt Burton is on his way to the Dogs. (Photo by Matt King/Getty Images)

So why not give the youngster some game time in a team that was scoring tries for fun? Maybe he’d get in on the act and decide it’s worth staying and playing with your mates for a bit less.

Instead, Burton played in Rounds 3 and 4 – when Nathan Cleary was suspended over the TikTok incident – moved to the bench for Round 5, was named at 14 in Round 6 but didn’t get a run, then played one minute against Souths in Round 7 before being dropped from the 17 altogether.

He got a final game, scoring a try in a 20-minute cameo off the bench in the Panthers’ Round 20 romp over the Dogs, by which stage the club had already secured the minor premiership.

As for why he was not sighted between Rounds 7 and 20? The primary reason would be because May was back on board and was Ivan Cleary’s preferred 14 (or centre, who knows what they’re doing with that bloke).

So Burton isn’t the club’s dominant half, because they’ve got the reigning Players’ Champion in that role. And he’s not their second-choice half, because they’ve got a NSW Origin squad member in Jarome Luai there.

But he’s not even their third choice and therefore logical bench utility, because a bloke who hadn’t played footy for almost two full years was considered the better option the minute he was eligible to play again.

Panthers fans, you want to know why you lost Matt Burton? Because he hasn’t played any footy! More to the point, with three men in their early 20s established at the club, he isn’t likely to ever play in his preferred position.

As for compensation, Fletcher’s going to have to use a better argument than “we developed him from the age of 17” on a 20-year-old.

What’s more, where do we draw the line? If the Titans snare Cameron Smith for 2021, should they pay the Storm for developing him?

How many seasons of first grade is long enough to decide if you want to keep a player on your books or not and therefore do something about it?

Surely it has to be ‘use it or lose it’ and in Burton’s case, Penrith lost it. So why should his future employer be forced to pay extra for someone Penrith considers to have “the potential of playing NRL” when the Dogs clearly see Burton as ready now?

Furthermore, making another club pay to sign a young player would surely be considered a restraint of trade, as it hampers Burton’s ability to earn his worth – clubs would be far less willing to pay him the money he deserves if a percentage of that amount goes to a competitor.

Finally, how about Penrith decide once and for all whether they’re going to crow or complain about their juniors.

Credit where credit is due, the Panthers have done an outstanding job creating development pathways, as evidenced by the fact their 2020 grand final team consisted of 13 players who had never featured in first grade for another club.

But while their development systems are said to be the bees’ knees, they’ve also got a bit of a John West situation: it’s the players Penrith reject…

See, they make a big song and dance about the work they do in developing talent all over the state, but that also means they have access to talent all over the state.

According to the club’s website, “Penrith District Junior Rugby League consists of 24 clubs and over 9500 registered players.”

They also lay claim to a significant chunk of the 99 junior and senior clubs that are part of the Western Region Rams program.

“We have so many clubs to look after,” is a fair whinge, but only if you don’t then turn around and boast, “We’ve got so many Penrith-developed juniors in our first-grade team.”

You can have one, you don’t get both.

And you definitely don’t get to ask for financial compensation when one of your close-to 10,000 local juniors ends up at a different club if the circumstances leading to his departure were that you didn’t pay him or play him.

Brian To’o celebrates with his Penrith teammates. (Photo by Jason McCawley/Getty Images)

Matt Burton just ended up being a good headache to have: a potential rep player who you can’t keep because of all the current rep players you’ve got.

At the end of the day, maybe all clubs should chip in an equal amount to a development fund or perhaps the annual grant should be decreased to finance it.

But if we centralise talent development, we have to centralise talent distribution, and all of a sudden Penrith’s 13 juniors in a grand final team will be a thing of the past – as will, I suspect, Penrith actually making a grand final.

Ultimately, just because this is a tough topic to solve, doesn’t mean we should stop trying.

However, Penrith would do well to pick their battles when it comes to the issue of developing talent – as with the battle for players’ signatures, you can’t win them all.

The Crowd Says:

2020-12-07T03:17:00+00:00

criag

Roar Rookie


Perhaps if the Raiders didn't sign so many Englishmen, there'd be more room for local juniors.

2020-12-07T03:00:11+00:00

criag

Roar Rookie


You're exactly right! 10,000 local juniors is great, but 10,000 local juniors can't get a place in the local first grade team. He will presumably get some decent game time at the Bulldogs, where his skills can develop further.

2020-12-07T02:57:58+00:00

criag

Roar Rookie


Roosters do a great job in player development despite being allocated a tiny junior area. Development doesn't stop at 17.

2020-12-04T01:44:55+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


But the job of the local not for profit clubs is to provide a benefit for the community, not develop players for the commercial NRL. If we're saying their focus is different, they should lose their favourable status and be treated as corporations.

2020-12-02T07:46:04+00:00

Ron Norton

Guest


Poor Penrith! This has been happening to the Canberra Raiders - and a few other clubs - for as long as they've been in the NRL. It's the penalty clubs pay for having a strong junior development program, unlike clubs like the Roosters who have no development program and want every good player other clubs develop - just ask Souths.

2020-12-02T00:58:26+00:00

Censored Often

Roar Rookie


What percentage of the compo will the Panthers pass onto the Dubbo JR for producing the junior player in the first place.

2020-12-01T23:24:07+00:00

Nick Maguire

Roar Rookie


From the Penrith 2019 Annual report: Junior development $468 000 on T/O of $35M or 1.34% “Penrith District Junior Rugby League consists of 24 clubs and over 9500 registered players.” I wouldn't have thought half a million bucks out of that business to guarantee a production line of talent was excessive. Easts Annual Report shows "Football development expenses" of $443K but it's not clear that is for juniors. Don't know about the rest.

2020-12-01T20:31:29+00:00

Mr Right

Roar Rookie


100% correct Barry. A strong club like Penrith is easily going to retain him if he is offered a reasonable contract & first grade selection. Penrith can't offer him both so they are trying to get some benefit for losing him. Our current system isn't set up to accommodate this. In the AFL & American sports like Baseball & NFL, the clubs would come to an agreement & compensate a team with something like a 2nd round draft pick. Penrith would either accept this or Burton goes into the draft at the end 2021 & would be picked up by the first club that selects him. That means they get nothing for him. It’s easy to theorise on compensation, but I can’t see any practical way to place value on a player to compensate a club for the loss. Should a team losing an unproven junior receive the same for losing a proven international like Josh Morris?

2020-12-01T11:46:44+00:00

Hairy

Roar Rookie


I agree. The benefit for Penrith lies in having access to so much talent, more so than any other team. This gives them first access to best talent in possibly the largest area. It may cost more to facilitate this process, but no doubt Penrith have made a financial decision they could sustain the junior development in order to gain access to the best talent to win games and premierships. Having surplus is just proof their system is finally working. Burton also has the right to get the best offer he can for first grade experience and salary and owes very little to Penrith in that regard

2020-12-01T09:13:19+00:00

Brian Westlake

Roar Rookie


Aaaaahhhh But will the penny pamfers have to pay the titans compensation for that cartwright lad? Swings and roundabouts

2020-12-01T07:55:48+00:00

Emcie

Roar Guru


"registered juniors" can be misleading. Clubs have ties to established junior clubs that aren't neccessarily under their own umbrella. And dont the Storm have a junior academy on the sunshine coast? lot of effort for 16 kids...

2020-12-01T07:04:16+00:00

andrew

Roar Rookie


Spruce Moose, you're saying it's a bit of a whinge fest. Geez, it's nothing compared to Saints problems.

2020-12-01T06:56:30+00:00

andrew

Roar Rookie


What's all this about Roosters and their sombreros? Am I missing something. Every time i see it i immediately think of Foghorn Leghorn.

2020-12-01T05:49:00+00:00

Big Daddy

Guest


Big chance he'll play centre next year as the bloke with the horse nostrils has been found out. Long off season of incidents will guarantee a lot of bloke's step up earlier than they thought. More incidents off season than during the regular season . Must be the hot weather.

2020-12-01T05:47:13+00:00

JOHN ALLAN

Guest


It would be an interesting statistical comparison between how many players remained with one club for their entire career in the 60’s compared with subsequent decades. I know players had jobs back then & didn’t earn big money from the sport however there seemed to be more reciprocal loyalty between club & players.

2020-12-01T05:21:27+00:00

jimmmy

Roar Rookie


To summarise. I think the clubs that represent areas where all the players come from ( hyperbole) should be compensated to some degree by the clubs that come from areas where none of the players come from ( not really hyperbole). This will result in a small improvement in the performance of those clubs that produce the most players. It won't flip the competition on its head but it tilts the field slightly. Not as much as a mil $ in TPAs does but a little. The obvious one is that the Warriors will be benefit. Maybe Rugby League is better off if the most successful clubs come from areas that don't play the game. I just don't happen to think so.

2020-12-01T04:42:58+00:00

Tom G

Roar Rookie


May must be there for his versatility off the field.. he doubles as Penriths unofficial videographer

2020-12-01T04:42:42+00:00

jimmmy

Roar Rookie


One Sombrero of sugar equals 3 pots of honey and one pot of honey equals 12 carrots. It's a messy business when the players need to be paid though.

2020-12-01T04:38:24+00:00

Tom G

Roar Rookie


Tough on the kid being told he has to wait his turn behind really young first stringers. It’s a really small window a rugby league career and he is clearly first grade standard. So I don’t blame him for seizing the opportunity. Having said that his manager did the deal and got a signed contract for an agreed term. I don’t blame the club for trying to recoup some of their investment.

2020-12-01T04:28:25+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


how many Clubs didn't want Cameron Smith? West Tigers gave up Ryan Papenhuyzen. We could both come up with at least a dozen or more examples of players who have moved on, or been moved on as juniors, till they found the Club that made them welcome, safe and comfortable.

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