The Quick Questions: If this is it, it’s been fun

By The Roar / Editor

It’s been a rather remarkable year of rugby in our part of the world.

The Wallabies and Pumas will on Saturday night in Sydney bring down the curtain on what has been a tumultuous season of southern hemisphere rugby. Super Rugby was thrown on its head, Super Rugby then re-emerged in three separate forms and with more teams than ever.

Then the Rugby Championship was salvaged. Then the Rugby Championship was thrown on its head. Then it was salvaged again. Then back on its head. Then the old Tri Nations had the dust blown off it, and the international season was salvaged once again.

And everything we thought we knew about the three teams was thrown out the window in a series that won’t be forgotten.

All thing considered, it might be time for the panel to reminisce a little.

Question 1

In a year we’re not likely to forget for any number of reasons, what has been your southern hemisphere rugby highlight in 2020?

Harry
Watching big old Mario Ledesma turn from the cameras to hide his tears, as his proud and tormented nation exulted.

There is a reason beating New Zealand far from home brings every team tears. Who can forget Pieter-Steph du Toit’s sobs of triumphant relief and release? The utter exhaustion of the Pumas’ famous win, built almost solely on fortitude, burst from Mario’s huge heart.

And now, the winter of our discontent is made even less glorious by the summer shame of old and discredited tweets that made the Pumas remove a captain and a star; a cringing, awful way to end this awful year, this torture called 2020.

Nobes
Besides this serious matter of the horrendous tweets, I think Los Pumas defeating the All Blacks for the first time, and the sadness for not have been able to see the Springboks play as world champions.

Dan
Pick one highlight from that year? But there are so many to choose from: the Wallabies’ win in Brisbane, the thrilling first game of Super Rugby Aotearoa, Harry Wilson and Noah Lolesio both delivering star turns on trips to New Zealand before COVID hit, the Force returning to Super Rugby, the Waratahs putting 38 unanswered points on the Reds in one half of footy at the SCG…

Two moments really stand out: the first, Bledisloe 1. After such a long time without a Test match, that opening encounter between Australia and New Zealand was unreal. It mightn’t have been the purest display of rugby, but it was a thrilling, pulsating affair which had me screaming at the telly for all 88 minutes.

The other is, of course, Argentina’s win over the All Blacks. Yes, the team’s performances this year have been overshadowed by the disgusting tweets which were unearthed this week, but from a pure rugby point of view, it was as big an upset as you’ll ever see.

(Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

Digger
Tough one. The fact we have been able to have rugby played in front of fans, all things considered, has been a highlight and while I didn’t really want to see it, it is difficult to ignore the sheer joy and celebrations of the Argentinian players and fans after achieving their first win over the All Blacks.

Rugby sure is great, and of course it would be remiss of me to also not highlight the Hurricanes beating the Crusaders in Christchurch this season, always an achievement.

Geoff
The obvious highlight is the Pumas breaking their duck against New Zealand; not just for the result, but for the quality of their performance. A single handling error and deadly tackling is a winning recipe against any team, but to sustain that level against the All Blacks for 80 minutes, fresh out of quarantine, was scarcely believable.

An honourable mention to Super Rugby Aotearoa reconnecting fans with franchise rugby. No matter the fun everyone takes from bagging Auckland, the sight of Eden Park full of fans behind a genuinely competitive and entertaining Blues side is great for rugby in our region.

Brett
Just that fact that rugby got back onto the field at all this year is the highlight.

Back in mid-March, at the end of the Brumbies-Waratahs game that was the last of Super Rugby in its old form, we tried to comprehend on radio that it was entirely possible we might not see any more rugby – or any sport at all, for that matter – played in 2020. There was just no way of knowing when or if we’d be back.

Super Rugby did return, but a global pandemic has forced the changes that so many of us have been calling for for years. There is no doubt the game will never be the same again, all because of 2020.

I guess that’s my way of saying we really shouldn’t take for granted the way the game was able to return at all. Things still aren’t great in so many parts of the world, but in Australia and New Zealand at least, our countries have done a great job of controlling what still looks well out of control in so many other nations.

Of course, there have been so many great rugby moments this year. But really, in the grand scheme of things, it all still runs second at best.

(Photo by Bradley Kanaris/Getty Images)

Question 2

Wallabies versus Pumas: Who wins the final game of 2020 and why?

Harry
Australia by a fair amount.

By now it is clear: notwithstanding the miracle win and the stubborn draw, Argentina were not ready for a four-Test series. Nobody would be.

Playing stocks depleted, stars dropping, walking wounded, and no tries; the Pumas are undermanned. Even before Pablogate. I honestly would understand it if the Pumas just pull out.

Nobes
The Wallabies will win now.

What has happened this week took any possible win away for Los Pumas. Too many distractions away from the game.

(Photo by Amilcar Orfali/Getty Images)

Dan
The Wallabies. Not by 101, but still by a lot.

Even before Pablo Matera, Guido Petti and Santiago Socino were stood down it was going to take a special effort for Los Pumas to get up for a fourth Test in 22 days.

Without their (former) captain and one of the best locks in world rugby, I can’t see them making much of a game of it.

Digger
After the events of this week, Argentina’s fourth game in a row and a rested Australian side, it is very difficult to see anything other than a comfortable Wallabies victory.

Probably very comfortable.

Geoff
Has there ever been a rugby rollercoaster as crazy as the one ridden by the Pumas over the last few weeks?

Infelicitous tweeting exposed, this week is surely a ride too far for the Pumas.

Wallabies by plenty.

(Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

Brett
I was reasonably confident the Wallabies would win this weekend, though the hundred required is obviously a bit much.

But it does feel like a Wallabies win will be a bit more comfortable now. No team is going to do well without its talisman, and while I don’t for a second underestimate the motivating factor of Argentinean passion and anger, like the rest of the tired squad, I don’t think it can last 80 minutes.

The Crowd Says:

2020-12-07T08:27:34+00:00

Bobby

Roar Rookie


Be NICE.

2020-12-07T07:04:29+00:00

J Jones

Roar Rookie


how` did that prediction work out

2020-12-05T03:53:21+00:00

Woodsy

Guest


I don't think the AB's loss to Argentina was a massive upset. Much like Ireland they had been close many times and it was bound to happen eventually. It's not like they are a minnow, they have beaten Aussie, England and the Springboks several times in recent years. All those teams have also beaten the AB's when they play well too. It's great for Argentina, especially after what they have been through. Hopefully they something left in the tank after the heatwave game last week.

2020-12-04T02:58:28+00:00

Bobwire

Guest


Highlights—Puma’s over AB. Also good to see posts about rugby, some thought provoking stuff, and some innovative analysis.

2020-12-03T17:03:43+00:00

JRVJ

Roar Rookie


It's an utter shame that the Pumas were caught in the TwitterGate scandal, because they are clearly not going to be playing at their best. One would hope it's a competitive Test, and if nothing else, it seems that 3 young players will be getting their first Caps for the Pumas (Hooker José Luis González, Flanker Francisco Gorrisen and Fly Half Domingo Miotti). Lucas Paulos will be getting his second Cap (he debuted against the ABs).

2020-12-03T14:53:38+00:00

Nobrain

Roar Guru


It does!! thanks for your concern!!!

2020-12-03T14:51:37+00:00

Nobrain

Roar Guru


I do not think I have to explain that, if live in Argentina you know why.

2020-12-03T13:59:24+00:00

No Arms

Roar Rookie


Erm why are they not welcome here? If it’s because of an owed apology for the old tweets then I reckon ‘we’ as a country should give an opportunity to give that apology- & from what I see the captain is willing to do so- then maybe we can get going on the long journey to reco

2020-12-03T09:51:15+00:00

Paul D

Roar Rookie


Highlights for me were the Bledisloe draw and the Argies win. Yes I rate the draw over the win in Brisbane for the pure heart thumping excitement of it. These two games should go down in folklore and were amazing showcases of the game just when it needed it. That and I loved the partial resurgence of the Tahs in SRAU after a terrible Super Rugby start. Next year will be tough but if we can hang on the young guys will get there. Hopefully a little quicker than it took the Reds :stoked: And yes, Wallabies by something in between enough and a bit more

2020-12-03T09:17:46+00:00

Machooka

Roar Guru


Thanks gents... again! :thumbup: Firstly, a sincere big ups for all youse for your contributions this season, especially all things considered... well done. And how good was it!?! :happy: Q1: Harry, yep it was lovely to see Super Mario show his real side in what it meant to get a first historical win against those almighty ABs. Sadly it was a side that then copped shyte from it's own a week or so later. Shameful! Dan, love you man... a 38 points unanswered score put on those north of the border wall types was precious, just as precious as that princess of precious who closed those borders due to her election issues. It's a Queensland thingy at the end of the day. :laughing: Diggeriwi... I agree, any win over those shaggers from the south is worth celebrating :thumbup: Q2: To be honest who ffs cares... especially after the shenanigans recently governed and thus provided by the Argie RU in throwing their captain et al under the bus, post the passing of a certain Maradona. Shameful! :unhappy: Big shout-out to Nobrain... man, I feel your pain but don't have any real idea as to the machinations of your country and the way they have gone about their 'business'... sucks amigo. Big time! :sick:

2020-12-03T05:38:54+00:00

Digby

Roar Guru


Cheers guys, it has been fun once again. Best of luck to both sides this weekend, hope you can put on a cracker :thumbup:

2020-12-03T04:59:08+00:00

The Neutral View From Sweden

Roar Guru


Thanks for all the fun, gents. Best moment of the season? Seeing a packed Eden Park in the first round of SRA brought me to tears (it a good moment for humanity). Obviously, Los Pumas win over the AB's was another highlight. Not so certain the Wallabies gonna walk the last Test. Who knows, Los Pumas might come out more fired up than ever before on Saturday?

2020-12-03T03:28:58+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


That extra day has a lot of questions to answer! :silly: In fairness to RA, it also hits Cricket Australia - the 2nd T20I is back in Sydney on Sunday night, and I'm sure they asked the question just as hard as RA would have. They get the extra allowance for the 3rd game on Tuesday..

2020-12-03T03:28:52+00:00

Wigeye

Guest


Hope OK if I have a few highlights and couple negatives . 1, able to have international rugby. 2, Argentina winning,draws,turning up. 3,wallaby's new blood new direction great coach LOOK OUT. Sorry negative s. 1, myself wanting nz to come last after the shambles coaching /play even though renowned for slow starts. 2, wallaby's give up chance 9 points to loose the draw then run it out b4 the whistle to take a draw. 3, what's happened in the puma squad this week I'm feeling very poorly for them this Saturday,deserve better Thanks

2020-12-03T02:37:22+00:00

GoldenEye

Roar Rookie


Thanks Brett, I thought RA might have tried to get an allowance based on the closeness. As for the calendar, this year appears to have taken much longer than most... Probably because it's a leap year. :silly: :laughing:

2020-12-03T02:22:49+00:00

Carlin

Roar Rookie


Question 1: I have two moments 1. Being at the Blues vs Hurricanes game at Eden Park in a full house. It felt like one giant release that crowds were back and it was a Sunday afternoon time slot (more of that please). And it was good seeing a resurgent Blues team. 2. I think the moment of the year in World Rugby (not just Southern Hemisphere Rugby) is the Puma victory over the All Blacks. Under such trying circumstances to get on the field. The pride and emotion they played with that day will always be remembered. Question 2 I think Australia win with a late flurry of points and win by 12 or so. I havent see the Pumas side yet but I am guessing a lot will be players that didnt play last week so they will have fresh legs and will need to start well. I just have a feeling as a squad they maybe emotionally spent though.

2020-12-03T02:02:56+00:00

Bobby

Roar Rookie


Pretty clear to me. Pumas win over NZ and Australia by plenty!

2020-12-03T01:18:23+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


It will be intriguing to see what kind of team they put up today, Ricco..

2020-12-03T01:03:34+00:00

Riccardo

Roar Rookie


Highlight has to be international rugby returning and the surprises it has brought with it. Viva los Pumas! The Pumas have key players carrying injuries and now the forced drop of two vital players, one of which is their talismanic captain. This makes a difficult assignment nigh on impossible, although I confess before that I had Los Pumas by a whisker. Subsequently altered in favour of the Wallabies. Argentina's suffocating defensive patterns and their break-down work will hold the onslaught at bay for a while but the Wallabies should have too much fire-power by the time the clock hits 80...

2020-12-03T01:02:17+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


Imagine putting bottles aside for a special Wallabies win! That's some kind of perverse celebrations/punishment plan you've got running, Morsie! :laughing:

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