Eight talking points from NRL Round 11

By Scott Pryde / Expert

More controversy around the sin bin crackdown has come out of Round 11, but we have also had a huge upset and some intriguing rugby league. Here are my NRL talking points from the weekend that was.

The NRL is about to face a milking epidemic – here is how to fix it
The seeds have been sown this weekend. Will Chambers and Jarrod Wallace are the two who spring to mind immediately receiving minimal contact, where normally you’d get up, play the ball and get on with it.

Even if you stayed down in the past, the most you’d cop was a penalty if it was deemed reportable.

We aren’t in that version of the NRL anymore. Instead, it’s sin bins, send-offs and harsh punishments. So when the duo hung around on the ground this weekend, Paul Vaughan and Dylan Napa respectively were given their marching orders.

I get it. Players have been trying to take every advantage they could since 1908. But if you’re going to be serious about player safety and want fans to take it seriously, then this could turn into a bad look for the game.

But there is a way to fix it – mandatory head injury assessment checks.

If you get hit, and the offending player gets sent to the sin bin, it means direct or forceful contact has been made to the head. If the league are serious about protecting the head and neck, which is the only reason for this crackdown, then the player who has been hit should also be forced off for a HIA.

It’s not rocket science, but it will stop players staying down if there isn’t a genuine problem. Now, I’m not saying certain hits should have a blind eye turned to them, but if the referee doesn’t pick it up, we can’t go back to the old days of bunkers blowing penalties for the on-field referees.

It’s a small change that could save the NRL a lot of headaches – literally and figuratively.

Victor Radley is sent to the sin bin. (Photo by Matt King/Getty Images)

Week-to-week consistency has gone out the window again
Three send offs last week, and if that was the baseline they were going to work off for the rest of the year, everyone just about could have shaken hands and gotten on with it, content that players were being safeguarded in the head and neck region.

But the hits of Josh Papalii, Tyrell Fuimaono and Herman Ese’ese last week were well and truly matched this week by Victor Radley, Josh Dugan and Jason Taumalolo, and yet, none of those players found themselves red-carded.

The fact Radley could get away with four reportable offences and two sin bins, yet still finish the game on-field, was baffling. In the same game, Joseph Manu didn’t find the sin bin for a pair of reportable offences within five minutes.

Comparisons were made to the Matt Lodge hit just minutes later which did get him binned, but that contact was direct and forceful, so it’s maybe not the best example.

But there is no doubt Josh Dugan’s hit on Friday night matched those sent to the bin last week, while Radley’s both saw him off the ground and launching into the tackle which made high contact, yet he didn’t have to pay the long penalty.

Consistency in this area can be hard because it’s subjective, but the NRL must do a better job than what was dished up this weekend.

The Rabbitohs are pretenders
As if one 50-point beatdown wasn’t bad enough against competition heavyweights, the South Sydney Rabbitohs went and did it again on Sunday.

The final scoreline pretty much sums up the Panthers’ dominance as they put a broom through the Rabbitohs defence right across the park.

Billed as the best Sunday of rugby league for the year and a treat for the locals at Dubbo, the Panthers were far too good, continuing their unrelenting run at the top of the table.

Penrith deserve a mountain of credit for the way they are keeping themselves motivated and playing attacking footy, but the Rabbitohs have more questions than answers at the moment, their defence or lack thereof again the major topic.

They might have had players out, but it’s no excuse to lose that heavily, particularly when it’s the second time in a matter of weeks.

The Raiders fade out… again
Not that playing the Storm is supposed to be easy – and it’s been even less so for Canberra given their atrocious record against them – but the situation couldn’t have been better on Saturday night.

No Jahrome Hughes, Ryan Papenhuyzen, Cameron Munster or Harry Grant meant Melbourne were missing their entire first-choice spine, and it showed early as the green machine raced out to a 10-0 lead.

Then, just like they have done over and over again this year, they fell asleep, became leaky in defence, poor with their discipline in attack and threw the game away.

So bad was it, the Raiders wouldn’t score another point as they leaked 34 to be wiped off the floor.

We know Craig Bellamy is a master coach, and the Melbourne structure seems to work no matter who is missing, but with the early lead, the Raiders should not have been beaten, and certainly not as badly as they were.

It was an embarrassing performance, their sixth loss from their last seven games, and while they are only two points out of the top eight, they sit 11th among a host of mediocre teams, and their chances of making the top four appear almost gone. Even their top eight hopes require a major form and attitude reversal in the coming weeks.

Moeaki Fotuaika must be picked by Queensland
One forward who constantly gets overlooked when talking about the best is Titans prop Moeaki Fotuaika.

For some years now, Fotuaika has been one of the mainstays on the Gold Coast, and was rewarded with an Origin debut last year. That should turn into more action this year.

With Josh Papalii to miss Game 1, Queensland still have a rip-roaring forward pack who, on paper, may match up well with the Blues, but Fotuaika is one player who can make sure the Maroons carry that advantage.

While he has spent much of the year playing from the bench, Fotutaika was instrumental in his starting gig against the Bulldogs on Saturday, running 188 metres from 15 runs. He was critical every time he touched the ball, coming up with a try assist, a line break and ten tackle busts, while he also had 2 offloads and 39 tackles at very high efficiency.

He might have had his best game of the year, but that’s not to say any other performances have been poor, with the Titans’ prop making 140 metres per contest, to go with 18 tackle busts and 16 offloads from his first ten games before today’s numbers.

In short, he is dangerous, and Queensland must find a spot for him.

Josh Schuster is living up to his potential
Given the stunning influence of Tom Trbojevic, it’s hardly a surprise many other Manly players are almost forgotten.

But one who is putting his name in lights is rookie Josh Schuster. The second-rower who can also play in the halves was parachuted into the Manly side during their injury crisis and has played excellently – but also consistently – to cement his spot in a full-strength 13.

Josh Schuster of the Sea Eagles makes a break. (Photo by Bradley Kanaris/Getty Images)

Manly’s left side attack was the key to their excellent victory over Parramatta on Sunday afternoon, with Schuster instrumental in just about everything Des Hasler’s side did.

But then, anyone watching Manly closely wouldn’t be overly surprised. Schuster has taken to first grade without a problem after playing a single game last year.

He is well and truly in the running to win rookie of the year and may be the current favourite, with some even throwing his name around as an Origin bolter.

While I think that would be one step too far, there can be no denying he has done everything asked of him and more in attack, while also holding his own in defence, and it’s critical for Manly’s top eight charge that he continues to do just that.

What does beating the Roosters mean for the Broncos?
The biggest shock of the weekend came in the shape of a Brisbane win over the Roosters.

Originally massive outsiders, the Broncos put in a performance which their fans can be proud of, potentially paving the way for a turnaround at the club.

They did spend a chunk of the game playing 12, but given they lost Matt Lodge down the stretch, their defence held together to keep their lead, where in past weeks, it would have almost undoubtedly crumbled, particularly against a team like the Roosters.

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In truth, the Broncos have inconsistently turned a corner for some time now. I say inconsistently because there are still results like the 50-point drubbing at the hands of Manly during Magic Round. Given they were competitive against Penrith and North Queensland, while also beating the Gold Coast, they are certainly in a better spot now than they were at the back-end of last year.

It’s clear Albert Kelly will have a prolonged run in the top grade, while the forwards need to continue to play with the intent and consistency they did on Saturday if Brisbane are to start making this a consistent turnaround.

Of course, running into an off-colour Roosters makes things easier, but it was a great win for the Broncos which will leave Trent Robinson scratching his head over what team to roll out next week for the hapless Raiders.

The Sharks must keep Connor Tracey in their starting 13
The Sharks and Dragons played out something of a bludger on Friday night, with neither team attacking all that well, the Dragons heavily reduced in numbers due to injuries throughout the game and both teams proving why the top eight might be a stretch too far.

Cronulla ended up winning, although, playing 14 for a large chunk, should have been streets ahead of where they were.

The one bright spot from the game was the continued improvement of Connor Tracey. The utility back has turned into Cronulla’s Mr Fix It, playing at centre and wing, as well as off the bench this year, while he played other positions last year.

Connor Tracey scores a try. (Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

He provided a real spark for the Sharks on Friday, topping their running metres, and while players returning from injury will put his spot into question, it really shouldn’t. There is a possibility he gets moved away from the wing, but he has well and truly made it clear through performance that he must have a spot in the Sharks starting team.

Roarers, what did you make of Round 11? Drop a comment below and let us know.

The Crowd Says:

2021-05-25T12:03:53+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


I hate golden point. There is nothing wrong with a draw and I find it hard to believe anyone would prefer to lose than draw. In the finals they should have extra time with five minutes each way and if it's still tied then have golden point.

2021-05-25T10:33:09+00:00

Tom G

Roar Rookie


The thing that always baffles me is the support Arthurs has.. been there for years has had every player he wanted bought, won zero, copped the odd wooden spoon during his stint and yet is still regarded by the media as a great coach. He’s an enigma, a coach that never produces and seemingly never gets held responsible.

2021-05-25T07:52:09+00:00

Joey

Guest


wiki says "among the most powerful, influential and ruthless figures in rugby league for almost 40 years". Got a feeling I’m right.

2021-05-25T05:51:51+00:00

Rossi

Roar Rookie


It changed for Dragons and Raiders players, not for Roosters

2021-05-25T05:41:31+00:00

Rossi

Roar Rookie


The dogs won 17 in a row at one stage in 2001 or 2002. Not long after they were stripped of 37 points

2021-05-25T05:35:49+00:00

criag

Roar Rookie


Yes, the number of 6-agains and penalties against the Roosters and lack of sin-bins for their opponents clearly demonstrates the league LOOOOOVES them!

2021-05-25T03:56:55+00:00

Kent Dorfman

Roar Rookie


"The NRL is about to face a milking epidemic – here is how to fix it" - review the event after the game, if the player has been shown to be faking i.e. doing his best DCE swan dive, then hit him with a fine saying that soccer crying and play acting will not be tollerated in RL & that the player is on his one and only warning, and if the player continues with it in other games- weeks on the sideline may follow. Could be reviewed by the bunker but we know how dodgy some of their decisions are

2021-05-24T23:53:20+00:00

Rob

Guest


Think Niukore coming back is a no-brainer for Arthur. I'd argue Blake is the worst centre in the NRL at the moment. He's a complete liability in defense. He made Brad Parker look like Greg Inglis on the weekend.

2021-05-24T23:50:22+00:00

Rob

Guest


He seemed even worse than normal against Manly. Another thing I noticed is that he went up to the ref a few times calling for a challenge without even consulting with Gutherson. Wonder just how much respect he has for Gutho as his captain based on that?

2021-05-24T23:47:11+00:00

Rob

Guest


The Raiders GF run in 2019 came largely off the back of being able to lay all over the opposition in the play the ball.

2021-05-24T23:44:12+00:00

Rob

Guest


That's true but also points out just how one dimensional Cook is. Shut his running game down and you shut him down. It's not as if this weeks game was his first poor game all year either. He's been way down on previous form across the opening 11 rounds.

2021-05-24T23:26:27+00:00

Andrew01

Roar Rookie


The solution. If I had the solution, I would be sitting at a very different desk. Fundamentally it is a WH&S issue (we think), so using the heirarchy of controls would be the first step (though the obvious solution if you do that is removing tackling from the game -so i guess they are not looking at it as a WHS issue. None the less the solution involves; a) Identifying what the problem is b) Why you need to make a change (is it actually player welfare, is it fear of litigation, is it govt relationships, kid participation, you need to pick a reason) c) Gather the data (i.e what are different causes of concussion on a football field) d) What are the possible solutions e) What are the flow on effects on and off the field f) Run the possible solution(s) in a test environment - i.e lower grades. g) Modify solution as required and clarify definitions and apply It's the biggest issue in the game apparently, you can't just yell and slam your fist on the desk and make a change for the sake of being seen to be making a change. For example. we're sin binning if it is "forceful contact". All contact on an NRL field is forceful. Just getting the basic definitions is important, otherwise how can you say you are addressing the issue. The other example is that we know whiplash is a major cause of concussion. Players on an NRL field can get whiplash from very legitimate tackles, so do we have to legislate out big hits? No tackling with shoulders? What injury risks does that create? I don't have the answer, but the answer isn't in knee jerk reactions if the issue is that big.

2021-05-24T22:08:19+00:00

Big Mig

Roar Rookie


Thanks Picket, under the “Guest” guise there’s no accountability/record to the dross JA writes. Apart from that I’m ok with the occasional roosters-rabbits banter. And despite what all you chooks may think, I have applauded the roosters at times (albeit rare) for example your pic profile of the 1975 easts team is a classic, they earned my respect, as did they in round 9 game this year where they fought hard v Eels, but v the Broncos they were pretty bad (not so much the loss, but the manner and behavior). Apart from that it’s good to be a Bunny.

2021-05-24T21:51:11+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Or are you thinking of the year that they didn't win a single game in the mid sixties? :happy:

2021-05-24T21:39:28+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


Given I was t even a twinkle in my Dad’s eye... If we around going back didn’t the Roosters go undefeated in the mid 70’s?

2021-05-24T21:35:58+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


Yes but what’s your alternative Andrew? We are all very good hear at pointing out what’s wrong, not so great at producing a better solution.

2021-05-24T13:30:45+00:00

Pickett

Roar Rookie


You are way overestimating Uncle Nick's reach.

2021-05-24T13:27:46+00:00

Pickett

Roar Rookie


JA is definitely not a troll. He's been here for a long time - probably longer than me. I was a guest for a long time before I 'signed up'.

2021-05-24T12:27:04+00:00

Big Mig

Roar Rookie


Hi Timnaik O'Shaughnessy, good to hear you are tainted with the red and green. I think you're right on the complacency, pre-season the Rabbitohs were hot favorites and we thought we had won the premiership before the first ball was kicked. The first 30 mins v Storm in round 1 put us rightly back in place, thereafter we started playing footy for the next 7-8 rounds and got the job done. You'd think that the Round 9 drubbing v Storm would be enough, but it wasn't. The Milf example is a good one, as he is a talented player but just his heart and brain isn't engaged, the $1m + pa is too easy. On Sunday I thought that with Mitchell, Mansour, Cook, AJ and the forwards (except Keoan Kalomantagi), it was disappointing because these players are better than that. I believe those two 50+ losses may galvanize the team come finals time (rely on Bennett to get the timing right), let's hope for an ambush come finals when its the Panther or Storm who are complacent. Go Bunnies.

2021-05-24T11:58:54+00:00

Timnaik O'Shaughnessy

Roar Rookie


Never liked the Roosters but Victor Radley is one guy I'd want in my team. The man is hard and plays his footy with no quarter given or asked. I just hope he adjusts his aggression down enough to stay viable in these times. It would be sad to see a guy like him rubbed out of the game.

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