Déjà vu – Manly to take down Souths in the preliminary final again

By Tony / Roar Guru

The last time that Manly and Souths met in a preliminary final was September 2013, and it didn’t end well for the Bunnies.

For those who can’t remember that far back, noted wine connoisseur Barry O’Farrell was Premier of NSW, Australia had three Prime Ministers in the one year, NSW lost the Origin series to Queensland for the eighth year on the trot, Michael Clarke led Australia to its first Ashes series win for seven years, Chopper Read passed away, and the only virus causing concern was the Crypto Locker trojan horse trying to get into your computer.

Happy days.

Now back to the football.

Souths came in a close second on for and against in 2013 behind the Roosters who were the minor premiers, while Manly finished fourth behind Melbourne. Souths progressed straight to the preliminary final after defeating Melbourne in Week 1 of the finals, while Manly got there the hard way after defeating Cronulla by the odd try in the semi-final, after losing to the Roosters in the first week.

Souths went into the preliminary final as strong favourites, and looked to justify that favouritism by leading 14-0 midway through the first half and were still in control at halftime with a 14-6 lead. However, Manly weren’t finished by a long shot, and they upped the ante in a physical display in the second half, scoring 24 unanswered points, before Souths ran in a consolation try with just seconds to go.

The final score was 30–20, and Souths season was over after being overrun by Manly in the second half.

For trivia buffs, four players from the 2013 preliminary final will run out again this week. Adam Reynolds for Souths, and Daly Cherry-Evans, Kieran Foran and Dylan Walker for Manly. Walker, of course, played for Souths in 2013.

So, will history repeat on Friday night at Suncorp? Will Souths take their best chance for a premiership since their famous victory in 2014? Or will the Sea Eagles win against the odds again and go through to their first grand final since their narrow defeat at the hands of the Roosters in 2013?

The way I see it, Manly have both the team and the game plan to take Souths down, and are at full strength, while Souths may just miss the impact that the suspended Latrell Mitchell could bring to a big match like this.

Will Latrell’s absence be too great an obstacle to overcome? (Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images)

So, let’s look at how they compare, who’ll win, and why.

The big games are usually won in the forwards, and the Manly pack are big improvers, playing a more direct game lately with a big increase in physicality, while minimising some of their higher risk plays.

Martin Taupau, Josha Aloiai, Sean Keppie, Taniela Pasaeka and Haumole Olakau’atu are an imposing group of forwards who love to get physical, and they are backed up by the skilful Josh Schuster and the cool head and experience of forward leader Jake Trbojevic. The return of the unsung Lachlan Croker has also been a big boost to both their attack and defence.

The Manly pack is more than capable of matching it with the likes of Damien Cook, Tom Burgess, Jai Arrow and co, and if they can win the ruck and the field position battle, I believe that the Manly backs will get the job done.

The Manly halves pairing of Daly Cherry-Evans and Kieran Foran are among the best in the business, and have played some 500 first grade games, 16 Origins and 37 Test matches between them. You can’t beat experience in the finals, and these two know how to win the big games.

On the other hand, the Souths halves of Adam Reynolds and Cody Walker are close to the form pair in the NRL, but are far less experienced than their Manly rivals, with a combined 370 first grade games, nine Origins and no Test matches.

This comparatively lower experience level may just count against Souths in the big minutes of a sudden-death final. There’s also that question in the back of my mind whether Cody Walker can produce the goods in the big games.

Can Walker step up on Friday night? (Photo by Jono Searle/Getty Images)

The three-quarter lines of both Manly and Souths know their jobs and how to score tries when they’re on offer, but neither would really be expected to dominate the other. Souths may just be ahead on the basis of the experience of Dane Gagai and Alex Johnston, but not by much.

It’s when we get to the fullback position that Manly have the biggest advantage over Souths, with Tom Trbojevic putting together possibly the most dominant season by a fullback in the history of the game. These days, the fullback has more influence over the outcome of a game than almost any other player, and in Turbo, Manly have the most influential player in the game in 2021.

Have a look at his incredible stats from just 17 games this season:

• 27 tries
• 28 try assists
• 117 tackle busts
• 33 line breaks
• 216 average running metres

Unbelievable stuff from Turbo, and Souths just won’t be able to match his influence on the game from the back. Good young player that Blake Taaffe is, he obviously lacks experience, and this will count against him in a big game like this.

I think he got off lightly against Penrith two weeks ago, and I expect him to be put under a lot more pressure this week by the Manly halves. The pity for Souths is, that if Latrell Mitchell hadn’t been suspended, they may have had the firepower to match Tom Trbojevic.

So, I believe that it all comes down to both teams being fairly evenly matched across the park, with Turbo the X-factor and the difference between the sides. It will be a hard fought game, and my tip is Manly to win by ten points, just like they did in 2013.

No need to panic at this stage, Souths fans, as I’m usually wrong. Just ask my wife.

That’s my take on how the game will pan out, but what do you think?

The Crowd Says:

2021-09-26T06:43:45+00:00

The Final Word

Roar Rookie


Many of my comments are Tony. But I suspect the warning wasn't directed at you, but rather in my comments in general about the game on other stories. This comment (below) was one of the comments, but there were others before the game. https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/09/24/all-the-pressure-friday-night-is-on-wayne-bennetts-rabbitohs-it-will-make-them-or-break-them/?comment_id=8162911#comments-section

AUTHOR

2021-09-26T04:30:33+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Well, that's odd. If I flick through the comments on the article above I can't seem to find your warning. Maybe it was deleted.

2021-09-26T03:13:31+00:00

The Final Word

Roar Rookie


No Tony. I tried to warn you ahead of time that you were way off the mark. You must have skipped those comments, mate. Unfortunately, you went out on a limb with that prediction and the branch broke. :silly:

AUTHOR

2021-09-26T00:06:21+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Easy to be wise after the event

2021-09-25T04:59:12+00:00

The Final Word

Roar Rookie


Déjà vu – Manly to take down Souths in the preliminary final again Oh, Tony! That headline doesn't age well, does it? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

2021-09-24T03:16:35+00:00

Tom G

Roar Rookie


Let's just hope his hands don't let him down or he gives away stupid penalties or makes a dumb defensive read.. he has been know in games to do all in the same game. In fairness he has also swatted defenders out of the way a number of occasions. I suppose I would've preferred Parker because for his deficiencies are limited to speed, you just know what you're gong to get, whereas Moses can be full of surprises good or bad

2021-09-24T03:11:20+00:00

Tom G

Roar Rookie


The odds are really short on all of that happening

2021-09-23T21:06:15+00:00

Emmeff

Guest


Suli gave Gaigai an absolute bath in the finals a couple of years ago. Albeit South’s still won..

2021-09-23T13:19:21+00:00

Poss

Roar Rookie


Big Mig,if souffs had out as many players as the Roosters this year I doubt they'd be in the position they are now!!With the amount Roosters players out (retired,hurt & suspension),for them to get to where they ended up is not only a credit to the boys but to Robbo too!!And yes I know you hate Trent by some of your earlier comments,but we Roosters fans appreciate what he has done for the club...And if we were at top capacity with our better players I doubt Rabbits would of put as many points on the board..

2021-09-23T12:02:32+00:00

ManlyMagic

Roar Rookie


Parker not Harper

2021-09-23T10:59:02+00:00

ManlyMagic

Roar Rookie


With Suli confirmed I think Manly will be better for it, Harper doesn’t scare anybody, but Moses does especially Gagai who he has owned in the past!!

2021-09-23T09:35:34+00:00

ManlyMagic

Roar Rookie


Manly haven’t beaten anybody above them, suppose they Eels weren’t in that list the first time we played them, also played Chooks and South in the first 4 weeks and lost, but then smashed the Eels(again) and Roosters. South defence is suspect and they leak points (Tigers to name one), so the game will be tight, no argument, difference maker is Fullback, one the most dominant player this year vs the other just starting on his NRL journey. Souths centres are better but Manly’s pack has much more firepower and are better ball handlers overall. Manly by 8

2021-09-23T06:15:08+00:00

undisputed

Guest


manly easily

2021-09-23T03:41:35+00:00

andrew

Roar Rookie


Drinking Sangria no doubt Tony. :laughing:

2021-09-23T03:33:27+00:00

The Final Word

Roar Rookie


Hasler confirms Manly 1-17, praises Souths' 'underrated' pack https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/09/23/hasler-confirms-manly-1-17-and-praises-souths-underrated-pack/ Classic Dessie. Making sure his side is well and truly under the radar. Let the mind games begin! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

2021-09-23T03:01:04+00:00

Big Mig

Roar Rookie


Fair points, should be good.

2021-09-23T02:52:43+00:00

Paul Monaro

Roar Rookie


Good overview Tony. So it seems like it's coming down to whether Manly is the real deal and deserved a top 4 spot, or whether Cody Walker is a big game player. Souths by 11

2021-09-23T02:34:06+00:00

R N

Roar Rookie


Like the end of Rocky 3! :stoked: :boxing:

2021-09-23T02:21:04+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


There's a few (hundred) bars around the world where I'd like to be typing this. :crying:

AUTHOR

2021-09-23T02:14:09+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Geez. I wish I was typing this from a tapas bar in Seville....

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