The four reasons why Souths can’t win the premiership in 2022

By Tony / Roar Guru

All sports thrive on hoodoos, suspicions, juju and old chestnuts.

Where would we be without them? As far as suspicions go, we all remember Steve Waugh’s lucky red hanky. There are countless players who feel that they’re tempting fate unless they put a certain boot or sock on first before every game.

There are some who can’t seem to play these days without having some hopefully inspirational message taped on their wrist, while others who insist on running out on to the field either last or in some other specific position every week.

The most memorable suspicion I encountered was a Pommy front rower who I played with nicknamed ‘Headbutt’, and for good reason. His suspicion was to never, ever shower after a game, and nobody ever plucked up enough courage to mention it to him at the post-game drinking sessions.

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Best of all though are the hoodoos. The old chestnuts that seem to continually prove to be true despite having no logical basis. You know how it goes, some teams can’t win at certain grounds, some players never lose against certain opponents, or one coach never wins against another coach.

But what I want to talk about are the hoodoos that will stop Souths from winning just their second premiership in the last 50 years in 2022.

So I know you have great expectations for next season, Souths fans, but take heed, and think carefully before you tick the ‘grand final ticket’ option on next year’s membership package, because the hoodoos all tell me that the Rabbitohs won’t be hopping around for a victory lap anytime soon.

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You’ve got to lose a grand final before you can win one
The logic here seems to be that the team losing a grand final will have not only gained valuable experience by playing in a decider, but also that the pain of the loss will provide them with sufficient added incentive to win the premiership the following year.

You know, all the losing players sitting around with tears in their eyes at the end of the game who are about to gain the resolve and inspiration to become winners next year.

We know that this adage recently worked for Penrith, runners up in 2020 and premiers in 2021, but their win really went against the grain, so Souths may in fact have a problem.

In the 114 years that the game has been played in Australia, runners up have only gone on to be premiers the following year on 15 occasions, or just 13.3 per cent of the time.

That means that based on this hoodoo, Souths will need to seriously defy the odds if they want to win the premiership in 2022.

No club that Wayne Bennett has left ever managed to win the grand final next year
There’s no doubt that Wayne Bennett is a master coach, and great for the club while he’s there, but things never look as bright after he packs his bags.

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The following is a list of clubs that coach Wayne Bennett has left, and the clubs who were premiers the year after he left:
• Left Canberra 1987, 1988 premiers Canterbury
• Left Brisbane 2008, 2009 premiers Melbourne
• Left St George Illawarra 2011, 2012 premiers Melbourne
• Left Newcastle 2014, 2015 premiers North Queensland
• Left Brisbane 2018, 2019 premiers Sydney Roosters

So as you can see, prior to leaving Souths at the end of last season, Wayne Bennett has left clubs on five occasions, and not one club went on to win the premiership the year after he departed.

In far worse news for Rabbitohs fans, the only club to ever win a premiership after the departure of Wayne Bennett was Canberra, who went on to win premierships in 1989, 1990 and 1994 after he left at the end of 1987.

If this hoodoo runs true to form then, Souths won’t be lifting the trophy next year, and if it pans out anywhere like it did for the post-Bennett Brisbane, St George Illawarra or Newcastle sides, perhaps they’ll never get their hands on the Provan-Summons trophy ever again?

Can you win a premiership if you conceded 50 points or more twice in the previous season?
Well, we all know that no side conceding 50 points or more in a game has won the premiership in that season, so Souths were never really a chance in the 2021 grand final after having 50 points put on them not once, but twice, during the season.

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First, the Rabbitohs lost 50-0 to the Storm in Round 9 and then made doubly certain that they couldn’t win the competition by going down to the Panthers 56-12 just two weeks later.

But can a team win the competition the year after they’ve conceded 50 points twice in a season? Well, the answer is a little bit yes and a lot of no. In the 24 years since the NRL commenced, it has only been done twice.

The first time was in 2005 when the Wests Tigers won the premiership after losing 50-0 and 56-0 the previous year, and the second time was when the Roosters won the competition in 2013 after losing 50-12 and 52-14 in 2012.

So that’s only twice in 24 years, so while there’s an 8.3 per cent possibility, it’s very, very unlikely.

Can a club win the premiership with a first-year coach?
For those who’ve never heard of him, Jason Demetriou, Souths’ new coach for 2022, began life as a St George Dragons junior before embarking on a playing career in the UK.

2022 will see him as first-grade head coach in the NRL for the first time, so what chance has he of winning a premiership at his first attempt?

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Not good, I’m afraid. In the 24 years of the NRL era, some 64 coaches have been handed the responsibility for a first-grade NRL team for the first time, and only three of them have won a premiership at the first attempt.

Michael Hagan was successful with Newcastle in 2001, Ricky Stuart did it with the Roosters the very next year, and Trent Robinson got the Roosters across the line in 2013. So the first-year coach works a charm around five per cent of the time.

Of further concern on the coaching front for South Sydney is the overall success rate of Wayne Bennett’s coaching proteges. Has any former assistant to the old coach ever won a premiership in the NRL era?

So there it is, Souths fans, and while I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news, someone had to tell you.

My advice is to forget about winning anything next year and start hoping for better times in 2023 and beyond.

The Crowd Says:

2021-12-26T12:36:14+00:00

William W

Roar Rookie


The Charity Shield is nothing more than a glorified trial game. Rabbitohs fans couldn’t give a stuff if we win or lose this trial game. Yes, I know Andrew, after all, it is your pathetic clubs Grand Final. Our Rabbitohs only care about what happens in September after your Mob is on the Mad Monday Holiday! Wow, I just checked, the Rabbitohs have won the last 9 Shields in a ROW…

2021-12-04T18:23:16+00:00

JennyfromPenny

Guest


Tony, to have Big Mig to surface from his covid bunker aka grand final losers hideout, you may need a headline which shatters the man crush on Tom Burgess .

2021-11-18T10:15:39+00:00

sheek

Roar Guru


Keep it coming, keep it coming, keep it coming. More reason to shove it you know where.....! Statistical precedents are an interesting concept, but someone will always buck the trend.

2021-11-16T04:40:36+00:00

steveng

Roar Rookie


Hahaha we’ve heard all this before and that is for what ??? 8 years now ??? e.g. not making the 8, not making the 4 and not making the GF which was about this time last year. Anyway and being a diehard cardinal red and myrtle greenie (well I’ll have to be with Mr Brookes on bard now :laughing: I’m not going to get into specifics as its useless at this time of the year, I’ll get back to you all in round 10 for a preliminary assessment and then in round 20 for the final assessment. All in all, we have a great side and yes in the halves we don’t have Reno but we have some class there with Cody as I’m sure that JD will develop that aspect that has gone with Reno. IMO JD will allocate the kicking game to different players which could be a new ploy, ok and yes we have to restructure after Reno and what he had but its not impossible. Also, Reno was never the players that he developed into and since Bennett joined the Bunnies and that was really in the last 2 years. As far as the goal kicking well Trell will and can fill that gap just as well (as he’s proven before) and he’s just as good as Reno. All in all and my prediction is; Bunnies winners of the 2022 GF and the Panthers and Storm and the Roosters will fight it out for the scraps!!! Go You Beautiful Bunnies!!! :thumbup:

2021-11-16T01:45:14+00:00

John McGregor

Guest


Can you please do 5 reasons why the other 15 sides cannot win the comp. Although some it is because of a complete lack of talent eg West Tigers, Sharks, Dragons, Warriors , Cowboys or a lack of deep eg Brisbane, Titans, bulldogs and Canberra. That leaves Melbourne Manly Roosters Penrith Parramatta and Souths with definite chances of top 4 positions

2021-11-16T00:40:58+00:00

Short Memory

Roar Rookie


Easts might be latte sippers ... They might once have been, but Souths now officially sips more lattes. Time Out's list of the 50 Best Cafes In Sydney lists 9 in Easts catchment and 11 in Souths. Tigers also come in with 9. So the Billionaire Boys' Club really needs to let go of its pretension to being a salt-of-the earth working-class club.

AUTHOR

2021-11-15T10:58:32+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Many teams have been in front on grand final day and not won the game. Do you have any more sayings involving poultry?

2021-11-15T10:24:25+00:00

Leigh Peacock

Guest


What a load of rubbish! A team will win a comp if they’re in front on GF day, not because of a bunch of useless and unrelated stats. Just goes to prove that you don’t need a long neck to be a goose!!

2021-11-15T07:17:38+00:00

Reggie13

Roar Rookie


Hey fellas, Sorry I didn’t think I needed to clarify, great = 6 origin players. Huge = most memberships in Sydney. Just thought I’d drop this in case you missed it. “As a business, they’re the benchmark, along with the Roosters and the Storm.” https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/cannon-brookes-investment-in-rabbitohs-a-vote-of-confidence-in-nrl-20211115-p5993e.html

2021-11-15T04:43:39+00:00

Adam Bagnall

Roar Guru


I think they will struggle to make the 8 relying on an instinctive player in Cody Walker to manage the team. Their halfback options appear fairly limited and not sure who takes over goal kicking, maybe Latrell if he can cut out the cheap shots in his game. They still have a decent side overall but lack the leadership and consistency that Reynolds brought. Letting him go will go down as one of the dumbest decisions of all time second only to the Dragons signing Corey Norman

2021-11-15T01:54:27+00:00

Rob

Guest


Just losing Reynolds alone is enough for me to put a line through them. Then you add Wayne along with the other players they've lost and I just can't see how they can get close to the GF this year.

AUTHOR

2021-11-15T01:12:03+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


I'm hoping that Souths bring up 11 in a row

AUTHOR

2021-11-15T01:10:03+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


:laughing:

2021-11-15T00:32:43+00:00

Glory Bound

Roar Rookie


Are you sure you wouldn't celebrate if the Dragons win the Charity Shield in 2022 and stop Souths winning 10 in a row? As for taking it seriously, why do you think I described it as a "made up trophy"?

2021-11-15T00:25:31+00:00

Albo

Roar Rookie


Yep ! Global warming is now solved at Redfern with billionaire Mike Cannon-Brookes (Atlassian) purchasing one-third share of Blackcourt with Crowe & Packer interests, and Blackcourt owns 75% of the Rabbitohs. They mightn't win a comp , but they should sponsor some great windmills down La Perouse way !

2021-11-14T22:04:01+00:00

Pickett

Roar Rookie


Shortage of funds won't be reason for not winning for Souths. They now have an IT geek billionaire joining Packer and Phonechucker as owner. What were they saying about Souths being a battlers club? Easts might be latte sippers. Souths are the new Chai soy latte sippers.

2021-11-14T20:45:29+00:00

Hard Yards

Roar Rookie


It possibly does Reggie, but , still, you've got to play to the rules and it's not a good look. 50. Very big number.

2021-11-14T19:48:45+00:00

Rod

Guest


I’m going peel of my red &green eyes off for a moment or so . Now a declaration that Souths can’t win the comp , who will ? Panthers are still a strong shout , but they have lost a few good players and may suffer a premiership hangover . Storm have lost Hynes, Finucane and possibly NAS unless he gets inoculated , I see a weakened side oh yeah no JAC either Manly well you just never know , need to learn how to beat quality sides and defend well . I’d say a possible but not probable Roosters - there is a love feat for this side after last year . Round 3 when they’ll get slaughtered again, will extinguish any sane person giving them any hope . Parra depends how they manage there off contract players , if they do . Could be the team to beat . Unlucky not to have beaten the Panthers . Can’t see any other side competing for the title at this stage

AUTHOR

2021-11-14T19:38:17+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


To be honest, only Souths could care about a one off pre-season game like the Charity Shield. I hope that they win it again this year if it gives their supporters a glimmer of hope in the face of the mounting weight of not so scientific evidence that the premiership is out of their reach this year, and most likely for the rest of the decade.

2021-11-14T09:45:27+00:00

Glory Bound

Roar Rookie


Tony, I posted a reply to you and AMD and it is caught in the spam filter. Please release it ASAP. Cheers.

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