What do General MacArthur and Captain Paine have in common?

By sheek / Roar Guru

I’m glad you asked, and here is the comparison.

This Tuesday will mark the 80th anniversary of the shock, unheralded Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour in Hawaii. This remains to this day one of the most extraordinary and momentous occasions in history.

Over 400 Japanese aircraft launched from six aircraft carriers north of the Hawaii islands swept in over the island of Oahu just before 8am on 7th December, and for the next 90 minutes created mayhem, destroying and disabling US capital ships in the water and aircraft on the ground.

In the Filipino capital of Manila, it was about 3am on 8th December on the other side of the International Date Line when radio operators picked up the news that Pearl Harbour was under attack. Because of mostly procedural delays, the Commander in Chief of US forces in the Philippines, Gen. Douglas MacArthur, wasn’t notified until about 3.30am.

MacArthur got dressed and then he did… nothing. He did nothing for the best part of the next seven hours. At about 5.30am, US Air Force commander Lewis Brereton requested permission to fly to Formosa (Taiwan) and attack Japanese aircraft at their bases. His repeated requests over several hours were all refused.

It wasn’t until mid-morning when MacArthur was aware of Japanese landings at Luzon to the north, that he gave Brereton the green light. It came too late. Just after midday, the Americans bombers had been loaded with bombs and ready to go, but Japanese bombers arrived over Clark Airbase and very quickly decimated about 60 per cent of the US air power in the Phillipines in a very short period of time.

After the war, MacArthur was questioned at length over his long delay in immediately executing commands of action. None of MacArthur’s answers were satisfactory. MacArthur tried to limply explain that US Army Chief of Staff George Marshall had told him to wait for Japan to ‘make the first overt act’.

Almost everyone thought the attack on Pearl Harbour was a pretty overt act. MacArthur tried to deflect this by suggesting Marshall meant the Philippines. No one bought it. But MacArthur got away with his obfuscation because he had more important things to do.

You see, MacArthur had been installed as the autocratic leader of Japan, charged with bringing a new, vibrant democratic Japan back into the world family of nations. This was probably the best thing he achieved in his career, overseeing Japan’s change from a tyrannical militarised country into an open progressive democracy.

There is more to MacArthur’s inaction in those critical early hours and under different circumstances, MacArthur’s inaction for about 7-8 hours following the attack on Pearl Harbour would not have been allowed to pass “through to the keeper”.

Which brings me to Tim Paine. On the eve of being recalled to the Australian team and playing his first Test for seven seasons, Paine sent a pic of his genitals to a female employee at Cricket Tasmania. At the time, only the two people involved were aware of this action.

(Photo by Ryan Pierse/Getty Images)

In just a short six months, Paine had gone from his team’s keeper to his country’s keeper, that is, the captain of our most revered sport (arguably), following the Cape Town sandpaper-gate incident. Then, just a few months later, both Cricket Tasmania and Cricket Australia became aware of the genital pic, but absolved the newly minted captain Paine of any wrong-doing.

As with the situation involving MacArthur, Cricket Australia had no stomach to prosecute a situation that required prosecuting. Having suspended both their previous captain and vice-captain, who also happened to be the best two batsmen in the team, and seeing that Paine had become a national icon almost overnight, Cricket Australia and CT decided to let sleeping dogs lie.

Again, under different circumstances, Paine’s Test captaincy should have ended after just one test. But the Australian cricket cupboard was bare of both batting talent and captaincy candidates, and Cricket Australia had no option but to continue with Paine in the hope his indiscretion didn’t see the light of day.

However, once it became clear Paine’s indiscretion would become public, he had no option but to resign. But like MacArthur before him in a different time and environment, Paine was allowed to escape the scrutiny his indiscretion demanded, as with MacArthur’s inactivity before him.

That’s what MacArthur and Paine have in common, but in entirely different times and seriousness of their circumstances.

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The Crowd Says:

2021-12-08T20:09:21+00:00

Christo the Daddyo

Roar Rookie


Ha ha! I actually think sheek has some reasonable points to make a lot of the time. But I find his obsession with Paine’s private life just creepy. The article was really odd - came across as a classic ‘old man shouting at clouds’ piece.

2021-12-08T20:06:47+00:00

Christo the Daddyo

Roar Rookie


My experience is that most people view this as an issue between Tim Paine and his wife to sort out. She’s forgiven him and moved on, but complete strangers like you are still waving pitchforks. You keep riding that high horse of moral outrage sheek…

2021-12-08T09:01:02+00:00

Once Upon a Time on the Roar

Roar Guru


Christo please stop. You are forcing me to agree with Sheek on something, and that is not something I can easily forgive.

2021-12-08T08:59:59+00:00

Once Upon a Time on the Roar

Roar Guru


I think the likes of Robert E Lee, Stonewall Jackson, Ulysses S Grant and one or two others from the mid-19th Century might be worthy contenders for the title of greatest soldier in US history.

AUTHOR

2021-12-08T06:01:39+00:00

sheek

Roar Guru


Christo, FFS, get in the real world. It's not just my view, but the view of most of society. I can see you're going to be contrary at every turn, so end of discussion.

2021-12-08T05:23:41+00:00

Christo the Daddyo

Roar Rookie


Did CA/CT have one of these policies in place at the time of the incident?

2021-12-08T05:22:25+00:00

Christo the Daddyo

Roar Rookie


"Paine did the wrong thing, with was beneath the standard expected of a test captain , or just an individual of society." Ah, so you'll be able to show me where in Paine's contract it specifies the behaviour he is and isn't allowed to engage in outside of his employment? And whether this incident is "beneath the standard expected of an individual of society" is between he and his wife, surely? What's it got to do with you?

2021-12-08T05:18:52+00:00

Christo the Daddyo

Roar Rookie


Only when it can be proven to adversely affect the organisation. And there's usually a consultative mediation process involved.

2021-12-08T04:04:04+00:00

JamesH

Roar Guru


As a general rule I whole-heartedly agree, it’s just that in this case the truth affects innocent parties. The whole thing is just a sad mess.

AUTHOR

2021-12-08T03:32:20+00:00

sheek

Roar Guru


Christo, I stand corrected, I have made a moral judgement. Moral (adjective): 1. Concerned with the principles of right & wrong. 2. Holding or manifesting high principles for proper conduct. So yes, Paine did the wrong thing, with was beneath the standard expected of a test captain , or just an individual of society.

2021-12-08T02:49:26+00:00

JohnB

Roar Rookie


Attacks on Malaya actually occurred first (just as the first military action at Pearl Harbour was not Japanese aircraft arriving out of the blue, but a Japanese submarine attempting to get into the harbour and being sunk by a patrolling destroyer). But overall more of a parallel than I thought reading the title

2021-12-07T23:38:49+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


Ok, I get your point. Simplified, my point is that the truth needs no engineering. ------- We should've stumped up straightaway, but like a conspiracy theorist, CA had to keep making things up -------- See: "Elite Honesty"

2021-12-07T23:15:12+00:00

JamesH

Roar Guru


I think that's the best they could have done, but it's not as simple as you're making out. At that point they had just anointed a 33yo as captain a mere four months after he had joined the side. They clearly felt they had no other clear candidates, and the public knew that. So how do they then explain to the public why Paine is standing down and they're appointing someone else, only a couple of months after he was endorsed as the new skipper? I can't see the media just going 'oh okay, I guess you just changed your mind'. Everyone would be digging for the reason and it probably would have come out anyway.

2021-12-07T21:58:45+00:00

U

Roar Rookie


Hate to break it you, corporate environments have policies that involve conduct outside the workplace.

2021-12-07T21:58:07+00:00

U

Roar Rookie


Wrong. Many corporate environments which this organization is have policies against this very thing. Consensual or not

2021-12-07T11:34:19+00:00

Pope Paul VII

Roar Rookie


Except, MacArthur was well aware of Japanese ferocity in China, of the impending war and most importantly, Japan had attacked his country. As a WW I veteran, maybe he was hoping to preserve the Philippines and not waste US lives. But he was well versed in military history and the inevitability of sacrifice against enormous odds. Other commanders resisted in hopeless situations like Wake Island, the Doolittle Raid and the entire torpedo squadron sacrificed at Midway. He did not perform well either defensively or offensively.

2021-12-07T08:39:49+00:00

Jeff

Roar Rookie


To quote a phrase..."I Shall Return!"

2021-12-07T08:37:52+00:00

Jeff

Roar Rookie


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

2021-12-07T08:37:07+00:00

Jeff

Roar Rookie


The cob pipe is far too under-rated.

2021-12-07T06:38:29+00:00

Ben Pobjie

Expert


And here I thought it was that they both smoked pipes.

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