The church of Wazzaball: Warren Ryan’s rugby league legacy

By Redcap / Roar Guru

When I was at school in northern New South Wales in the late 1980s and early ‘90s, Warren Ryan had a god-like status.

He’d coached three different teams to a total of six grand final appearances in the ‘80s, winning two of them with Canterbury in 1984 and ’85.

As the ‘90s wore on, Ryan’s halo faded. Wayne Bennett, Tim Sheens, Chris Anderson, Phil Gould and Brian Smith became the game’s pre-eminent tacticians.

Ryan never stayed at any one club longer than four seasons and it usually ended in acrimony. While he coached Country Origin for five seasons, he was never trusted with a big representative job. Perhaps he was deemed too awkward and confrontational to handle the media circus that accompanies State of Origin, or the diplomacy required in the international arena.

But for all that, Warren Ryan is arguably the most influential coach in rugby league history. He and Jack Gibson are the progenitors of the analyst, tactician, mentor and media polemicist that is the modern coach.

Gibson hastened the move away from clubs handing the coaching job to the current or former player with the best officer qualities. Ryan made coaching a discipline and spawned numerous imitators.

He was born and grew up at Newcastle in the 1940s and ‘50s and developed into an outstanding athlete. He represented Australia in shot put at the 1962 Commonwealth Games in Perth where he finished seventh overall.

Ryan’s athletics career came to an end when he successfully trialled for a contract at St George. He made his one and only appearance for the Dragons against Souths in Round 8 of 1965 when the club’s future immortals and sundry other stars were touring New Zealand.

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Opportunities at St George were understandably limited, though he did make an appearance on grand final day 1965 when an estimated 78,000 people packed the SCG to see St George win their tenth straight premiership and Ryan play in the Dragons’ reserve grade grand final defeat to Balmain.

After a brief stint at Cronulla between 1967 and ’68, he moved to Wests Wollongong where he won four premierships and became coach after retiring in 1972.

The genesis of Ryan’s coaching appears to have been at St George. He expected the all-conquering Dragons to have a scientific method, but observed that it was more of an art form, based on the talents of Johnny Raper, Norm Provan, Graeme Langlands, Reg Gasnier and company.

When he inquired about the finer points of the Dragons’ game, it was suggested that Ryan ‘go ask Poppa Clay – he might know’.

In 1978, John Dorahy and Shane Day, former charges of Ryan at Wests Wollongong and then playing for Wests in Sydney, suggested bringing Ryan to the Magpies.

He was appointed coach of Wests’ under-23s and took them from fifth place to a grand final against a Penrith side featuring the likes of Ken Wilson and Henry Foster. He also contributed as a defensive coach to Roy Masters’ first-grade team winning the minor premiership.

His contributions were quickly noticed. Newtown secretary Frank Farrington coaxed Ryan to the Jets in 1979 and their improvement over the following three seasons was remarkable.

Newtown had finished a distant last in 1978, winning just two games and conceding, on average, more than 26 points per game. Newtown finished second last in 1979, but their attacking and defensive numbers improved significantly, and by 1980 they were on the fringe of the finals.

Ryan’s achievement in getting Newtown to the 1981 grand final, a narrow defeat to Parramatta at the SCG, is still regarded by some as miraculous. But Newtown finished ahead of Parramatta that season and had a very good team, featuring Phil Sigsworth, John Ferguson, Ray Blacklock, Ken Wilson, Graeme O’Grady, Phil Gould and Geoff Bugden.

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None of that is meant to detract from his achievement at Newtown. Quite the opposite; the Warren Ryan effect wasn’t miraculous, it was method.

In 1984, Ryan inherited a Canterbury team that’d finished second the previous season but with a remarkably poor defensive record. The improvement was immediate. Canterbury finished with the best defensive record in 1984, won the minor premiership and beat the defending premiers Parramatta in the grand final.

They weren’t as dominant in 1985 or ’86 but were again parsimonious and reached grand finals both seasons, beating St George in 1985 and losing narrowly to Parramatta in the try-less decider of ’86.

It wasn’t always pretty, especially the aggressive and occasionally cynical umbrella defence, but it was very effective. Canterbury’s relentless bombing of fullbacks, most notably Glenn Burgess in the ’85 grand final, eventually forced a change to the rules about restarts from the in-goal.

Ryan took Balmain to consecutive grand finals in 1988 and ’89, but in neither season were they an outstanding team. According to Ryan, Balmain’s star-studded forward pack was often let down by a mediocre set of outside backs.

This was the problem Ellery Hanley was brought in to solve in ’88 and the problem that may have cost them in the ’89 decider against Mal Meninga, Laurie Daley and John Ferguson of Canberra.

Accounts of Ryan at this point in his career begin to paint a picture of an increasingly inflexible figure. There’d been tension and fallouts before: Tom Raudonikis at Newtown, Steve Mortimer at Canterbury, and media generally.

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In 1991, Ryan left a declining Balmain for Wests. According to Steve Roach, Ryan’s departing words to his Balmain players were “the lemon’s been squeezed”.

Wests, who were already struggling financially, backed their new coach with veterans from his Canterbury days, Andrew Farrar, David Gillespie, Joe Thomas and Paul Langmack, along with representative forwards Graeme Wynn and Tony Rampling. There were also promising youngsters like Jim Dymock, Darren Britt, Jason Taylor and Jamie Ainscough.

Not surprisingly, Wests improved, going from 13th in 1990 to the finals in 1991 and 1992. But the improvement was short-lived, with a decline in 1993 followed by Ryan’s sacking in 1994 after another fallout with senior players and officials, primarily about the club’s inability to re-sign young players like Dymock and Taylor.

Ryan had a few choice and subsequent words in Tony Adams’ book, Masters of the Game, about administrators he’d dealt with: “There’s no future in coaching [under] chook raffle administrators who are a combination of geriatrics and hillbillies. I’ve been there, done that and am not interested in going though that aggravation anymore”.

Except he was. Ryan returned for two valedictory seasons at his hometown Newcastle Knights in 1999 and 2000, providing a bridge between premiership-winning coaches Malcolm Reilly and Michael Hagan.

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Ryan’s legacy is not like that of Brian Smith, a residual influence in the practice and custom of his former clubs.

Many players found Ryan difficult to understand, difficult to get along with, or both. They loved his technical and tactical acuity but could find it hard deal with his abruptness.

Ryan was a coach’s coach. Brian Smith admitted to obsessing about Ryan’s defensive structures. Wayne Bennett was rumoured to have sought outside help to crack the code.

Ryan’s legacy is five premiership-winning coaches he influenced directly or indirectly. As Phil Gould remarked, “There’s so much in our game today where the embryo dates back to his teachings from the early 1980s. And from that he created people with the ability to coach.”

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2022-01-31T02:53:10+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


I reckon they were both quite scholarly in the way they thought about the game, but very different personalities.

2022-01-30T22:49:51+00:00

Big Daddy

Roar Rookie


I think both Warren Ryan and Brian Smith both schoolteachers . That's where it stopped . I think Smithy coached like a school teacher and Wok like a rugby league coach .

AUTHOR

2022-01-30T08:13:27+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


I guess they couldn’t really say much more. The “their game” bit is quite telling. :unhappy:

2022-01-30T05:27:31+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


I wonder what suspension Jim Comans would've given Kelly for that coward's punch. He threatened one of the family so there was no chance of a send off. I wrote to the NSWRL about the poor refereeing and how the coward's punch was not a good look for the game. Arthurson or Quayle replied and thanked me for my interest in their game.

AUTHOR

2022-01-30T02:17:16+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


Brian Battese was my footy coach in high school and liked to remind me of the '85 GF. At the time, I wasn't aware of the dodgy refereeing or the maneuvering behind the scenes. If I ever see him again...

2022-01-30T01:16:32+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


In 1985 Canterbury had managed only a draw from three games against St.George. Saints won the major semi 17-6 with Mick Stone as referee. Jim Comans had warned Steve Mortimer that if he appears before the judiciary again RL will be a memory for him. Peter Moore complained to his good mate Ken Arthurson so they gave the refereeing job to Kevin Roberts. In the first half Canterbury received a penalty for a scrum infringement and as Graeme Wynn walked away Peter Kelly punched him in the head from behind. It was the most gutless act I’ve seen and Kelly was not sent off. Steve Mortimer later knocked out Wynn again but he couldn’t be sent off or Jim Comans would suspend him. The only try was scored from the penalty Canterbury received for a coward’s punch that put Wynn out. Michael O’Connor was also elbowed in the head by Andrew Farrer but the refs did nothing.

2022-01-29T23:17:49+00:00

Dwanye

Roar Rookie


He is one of the half a dozen masters of the modern game. Maybe not even half a dozen. Not being a man-manager really showed how much he understood the game. What he achieved, players in the team he coached whilst being so prickly, it’s crazy, lol. Even down to ‘walking out’, before being pushed he could read the whole football setup. The grand final record, multiple teams improvement (in a short period also), the guys under him that ‘went on’, the style of play that carried on. He calls ‘a spade is a spade’, try’s to stay away from the factions, he wants that team to be the top.

2022-01-29T08:59:15+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


:shocked: nasty

2022-01-29T08:05:49+00:00

mach4

Roar Rookie


Should have tried it when the water boy fed me a Dencorub laced drink, burned the backside out of those shorts.

AUTHOR

2022-01-29T00:42:59+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


Cheers, Nico.

2022-01-28T21:53:08+00:00

Nico

Roar Rookie


Cheers for another good read AMD. Sat down and watched the Eel v Jets '81 gf the other day. The best part of it (and 80s league in general) was the elaborate set play which Wok no doubt had a part in, watching Gus Gould launch a bomb while facing his own tryline on the first tackle just after getting a penalty inside the Eels' 20 is nothing short of priceless

2022-01-28T12:56:42+00:00

Mick Gold Coast QLD

Roar Guru


Kevin Hardwick certainly was just that, and reliable.

2022-01-28T12:44:36+00:00

Mick Gold Coast QLD

Roar Guru


I recall considering Anderson as being not as outstanding a player as he was touted to be, and he had a quite unfriendly demeanour.

2022-01-28T12:40:59+00:00

Mick Gold Coast QLD

Roar Guru


He was a direct running centre in reserve grade for two (?) seasons in the '60s, which was about as close as a good player could get to the exceptional "knights of the round table!"

2022-01-28T12:32:06+00:00

Mick Gold Coast QLD

Roar Guru


That is a fair account AMD, thank you. Someone told me - Ryan was self-assured, intelligent, articulate, educated well beyond the bounds of physical education (his profession) nutrition, data observation and analysis, and using one’s brain - into the Greek classics and art, for example. His columns in the Herald were fine English lessons, structured, his own work. He enjoyed passing on knowledge and encouragement in all aspects of life. Warren was interesting and genuinely interested – Jack Gibson was much the same in that. They both had their inner circle of assistants and students of the game – people who had shown their preparedness to learn. He amused himself watching strangers assume he was merely a big fit Adonis-like dummy. He was direct, not abrasive unless it was necessary, he explained his instructions with clarity, in simple terms. For those who did not bother to listen he was scathing. His sarcasm was marvellous. Steve Roach would have trouble keeping up intellectually, Andrew Johns’ family were kings of the castle in the lower Hunter and unused to being challenged. Peter Moore was a godfather type – owned the club, led his family. He was gruff and indifferent, sure footed, knew what he wanted, was certain of his objectives because he had thought them through – a rare practice! They were very similar, they were both cautious and loyal. The fact those two coexisted tells you more about them than do easily found critical one liners from mere footballers. Phil Gould was his reserve grade coach or captain for a bit, he has a similar impressive intellectual capacity. He is one of five (?) Ryan assistants to go on to win premierships – that’s unique. They had a severe falling out over leaked game strategies at some point, but that was later repaired. Once again, Warren Ryan coexisted readily with trusted allies.

2022-01-28T08:34:02+00:00

andrew

Roar Rookie


March of the Dragons by Ian Heads is a good book AMD.

AUTHOR

2022-01-28T05:49:07+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


Hi Criag, Yeah, replacing Sironen was questionable. Replacing Roach was something Balmain had been doing regularly on their way to the GF. Blocker may not have been happy at the time, but he can't have been surprised. Ryan said this about it: "By the time I replaced him, Roach was our worst defender. He was slow coming back into the line and the Canberra little men were running from dummy-half and just carving us up. I had a fresh bloke in Kevin Hardwick on the bench and he was a workaholic tackler."

AUTHOR

2022-01-28T05:45:09+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


Thanks Paul, Interesting thought. In some ways his timing was perfect - a talented group at Newtown, a Canterbury team in need of fresh ideas after Ted Glossop, another couple of very talented groups at Balmain and Wests. As Matty Johns has mentioned many times, Newcastle missed a big opportunity in his final year as coach in 2000. I'm not sure his hard-a**e approach was the problem in and of itself - it was more that he became increasingly disillusioned and bitter because he didn't get everything he wanted at Balmain or Wests. As I alluded to above, he wanted the cash strapped Magpies to sign expensive veterans and re-sign the club's best young players who were understandably in demand elsewhere. He was definitely referring to Wests when he mentioned chook raffle administrators, but I'm sure he'd have some choice words about the Dragons current directors. A bunch of old boys on the leagues club side - as I've written elsewhere, the only way Doust is leaving is in a box on wheels - and I don't even know who 3 of the 4 Win directors are. This guy's the only one I could identify.

2022-01-28T05:22:26+00:00

criag

Roar Rookie


There are many who blame him for the 1989 Grand Final loss because of his decision to replace Paul Sironen and Steve Roach. I remember Roach being filthy as he came off. Ryan defended it saying he was getting too slow in defence. Don't think Roach agreed. Not sure why he thought Siro had to come off.

2022-01-28T05:10:25+00:00

Duncan Smith

Roar Guru


It was just the Dragons. The book is worth reading. His book on Bumper Farrell too.

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