AFL NEWS: Dusty ruled out despite calls to 'just stay in the 50!'; is it time for the bounce to be scrapped?

By The Roar / Editor

Former great Jordan Lewis believes Richmond are making a mistake, by confirming champion Dustin Martin won’t be considered for selection in Round 7.

Martin has only returned to the club this week from personal leave which has seen him absent since shortly after the Tigers’ loss to Carlton in Round 1.

However, despite Martin looking ‘fit and strong’, according to Tigers general manager of football Tim Livingstone, he won’t be thrown straight back into the AFL cauldron against West Coast on Friday night.

“It has been a five-week break, so that is not the best preparation coming into this round,” Livingstone said of Martin’s availability on Wednesday.

“We will have a look again next week and see how he is progressing.”

However, speaking on AFL 360, Lewis said he is strongly in favour of an instant return for Martin, even if he is unable to play his usual minutes in the midfield.

“If I was the coach, I’d really consider playing him,” the former Hawthorn and Melbourne great said.

“The parameters need to be really clear – just stay in the 50! Imagine coming up against the Eagles this week, and all of a sudden you’ve got to deal with Dusty staying deep.

“He’d probably get [Jeremy] McGovern or [Tom] Barrass or some type of key defender, because of his power in the air and his power one-on-one.

“Then that takes them out of a position where they can impact in the air – it’s so dangerous.”

Part of Lewis’ reasoning is that the Tigers, who sit 12th on the ladder with a 2-4 record, are fast running out of time to make something of their season; he said the club ‘don’t have the luxury’ of easing Martin back.

“This is an important three weeks for them,” Lewis said.

“I know they’ve said it’s a five-day break and he hasn’t done enough training… but they would have had some conversations within that club, and half on one side saying ‘why can’t we play him?’

Alongside Martin, Richmond have confirmed veterans Trent Cotchin and Robbie Tarrant will also not be making the trip west.

Dustin Martin (Photo by Quinn Rooney/Getty Images)

Ruck carnage prompts calls to scrap the bounce

A spate of injuries to ruckmen in recent rounds have prompted yet more calls for the traditional centre bounce to be removed from the game.

Carlton’s Marc Pittonet and Collingwood’s Brodie Grundy will both miss up to three months, after injuring posterior cruciate ligaments (PCL) knocking knees in ruck contests over the weekend.

Magpies captain Scott Pendlebury even took to Twitter following news of Grundy’s injury, wondering whether something should be changed about the centre bounce set-up.

With Swans ruckman Tom Hickey and Richmond co-captain Toby Nankervis suffering similar injuries during 2021, there are fears the traditional centre bounce may be a catalyst for the injuries.

Also a factor in the calls to scrap the bounce are the impact they have on umpires; an ability or lack thereof to bounce the ball has in the past been cited as making finding suitable umpires for AFL level exceedingly difficult.

“The umpires don’t like it – throw it up!” former coach Ross Lyon said on Footy Classified.

“How about we listen to the shop floor… they’re doing the job, throw it up!”

According to fellow panellist and AFL journalist Caroline Wilson, the bounce is ‘causing so much stress’ for the umpiring fraternity.

However, former All Australian ruckman and prominent AFL commentator Luke Darcy hopes the league don’t make any hasty changes, saying injuries are part of the challenge of rucking at the highest level.

“You make it a basketball tip-off, is where you end up if you start going down that path… not keen on that,” Darcy told The Age.

“In a combat sport where you can’t reduce injuries down to zero… anytime someone gets injured you should have a think about it, but I’ve been around long enough not to see an obvious solution.

“Two people jumping flat out, even if it’s in a small circle, there’s always a risk. It’s how much of that you’re to be exposed to.

“Two in a week raises a question, I’m not super alarmed about it.”

In response to a staggering 19 PCL injuries between 1999 and 2004, the AFL implemented the 10m centre circle, reducing the distance ruckmen could have for their run-up before leaping.

Roo’s big blow opens door for boom recruit’s return

North Melbourne boom recruit Callum Coleman-Jones is in line for an AFL return this weekend, following news Roos ruckman Tristan Xerri is set to miss with a foot injury.

Coleman-Jones arrived at Arden Street from Richmond with high expectations, but has been unable to crack the team after a quiet debut in Round 1.

Xerri and veteran Todd Goldstein have shared the ruck duties ever since, with the trio’s appearance in their opening round loss to Hawthorn widely criticised.

However, the former’s foot problem will see him miss up to a month of action, with Coleman-Jones in ideal form to make the most of his looming recall.

The former Tiger gathered 24 disposals, 37 hitouts and eight clearances in the VFL over the weekend, despite a 44-point loss to Frankston.

Speaking before news broke of Xerri’s injury on Wednesday, North coach David Noble said Coleman-Jones’ game had turned heads.

“‘CJ’ is in good form and he’s had a couple of really good games at VFL level so he’s pressing pretty hard,” Noble said.

“We think ‘Goldy’ [Goldstein] is going OK … he’s an awkward forward to match up on, that’s the methodology. He’s also got great experience.

“We like the two rucks. I think there’s enough pressure from ‘CJ’ as to what we’ll do and what we’ll consider this week.”

The Kangaroos come up against Carlton, who will themselves be without their first-choice ruckman Marc Pittonet, who is set to miss three months with a PCL injury.

The Crowd Says:

2022-04-29T14:03:05+00:00

DingoGray

Roar Guru


Dusty could of done with a run around a few witches hats

2022-04-28T22:40:54+00:00

Prez

Roar Rookie


So rare that an AFL coach will go out on their own terms.

2022-04-28T22:22:35+00:00

Prez

Roar Rookie


If you believe you have the young players on the list that will take Richmond to their next flag then that is ok to have a steady approach to the draft. Otherwise there is a group of players near 30 that have some trade value that Richmond can use to accelerate a rebuild.

2022-04-28T20:53:14+00:00

Puntroad

Roar Rookie


Thanka Oracle. It sounds like the ahort turaround has opened the door a bit for a few. Excited to see what they bring.

2022-04-28T20:50:44+00:00

Puntroad

Roar Rookie


True, Jack is not really the problem. He's more versatile and capable of pushing up the ground. But he's not exactly a plan for the future either. The idea of being left with Lynch as the key doesn"t fill me with joy. I guess it depends on how you analyse 2021 - fatigue driven abberation; or the competition catching up and a bit of degradation. If its the latter then maybe some changes ahould have been made.

2022-04-28T13:35:11+00:00

RT

Roar Rookie


CCJ might have left anyway and he didn't do enough with his limited opportunities to take that route. Besides, Jack is still playing well.

2022-04-28T12:05:39+00:00

Doctor Rotcod

Roar Rookie


I never saw the value in Tarrant, but then every team has their own equivalent. Witherden? There's space on every recruiting committee's whiteboard for blue sky picks.

2022-04-28T11:48:26+00:00

Dusty does Danger

Roar Rookie


CCJ can’t get a game at Norf. Stack is playing tomorrow night but to be fair Mansell, Sonsie and Clarke have probably performed better. You need to perform above at VFL not average. Aarts hit 32 possessions when he went back. Lambert 25 in 3/4. Actually surprised Junior is getting a run ( you have to look at the team announcement). He got about 10 posies last game. Your right Shedda should have been rested and Nigel (Mansell) in the team. Yep Lynch is hot and cold but hey first season gave us a Premiership something Buddy and Cameron couldn’t do. I can’t bag him, he takes the best defender out.

2022-04-28T11:38:17+00:00

Puntroad

Roar Rookie


Yep, I reckon if you go the pathway I've outlined you probably look to a new coach to enter a different phase. I would think Dimma wouldn't have the drive/energy to start afresh. I have no ideas about a possible candidate though - maybe Leppa??

2022-04-28T11:35:42+00:00

J.T. Delacroix

Guest


They can’t get rid of the bounce. Aussie Rules is probably the only sport where the officials (umpires) are required to show some skill. It’s not as easy as it looks.

2022-04-28T11:30:05+00:00

Yattuzzi

Roar Rookie


Pretty honest comment PR. Tigers should go hard. New coach, young talent, out with the old (with respect of course).

2022-04-28T11:20:49+00:00

Puntroad

Roar Rookie


I kinda agree Prez. Anyone interested in Lynch - 7 year deal :sick: To be fair he pretty much won us a flag in 2019 so there is that. But more often than not he has fewer than 10 touches and bugger all goals. There are far too few contested grabs. In hindsight maybe we should have encouraged Jack to retire and hung onto CCJ?? It would have been very tough to shunt Jack out the door though. But it doesn't change the fact the forward line doesn't look to be dangerous enough. Also, surely Shedda also needs to go - probably before mid-season in my view. Cotch's last year....Probably others too. Gibcus looks great. Tarrant is well past it and needs to be retired. I have no idea why Sydney Stack isn't getting a game. Also maybe give Maurice junior a chance to see what he can bring. Also, great to see Dusty back at training - it will be great seeing the champ back out there when he's ready.

2022-04-28T10:33:38+00:00

Doctor Rotcod

Roar Rookie


And they love him

2022-04-28T09:24:37+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Well Mason does love the Tigers

2022-04-28T07:56:35+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


You guys get Mason Cox back soon. It's not all gloom and doom.

2022-04-28T07:16:36+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


How anti climactic are recalled bounces in the dying minutes of a game...get rid of the stupid bounce and find more umpires with feel for the game.

2022-04-28T06:40:53+00:00

Dusty does Danger

Roar Rookie


Ha ha! Everyone loves playing against the Pies - especially at the G! Hopefully they give him a few weeks of fitness and he comes back for the big Dreamtime game against the Dons. Tigs won’t risk anything until he is 100 percent physically and mentally. However we should have Cotch, Grimes, Lambert, Tarrant, Dow, Pickett, Soldo and hopefully The Mullett itching to play the Pies, if Dusty isn’t.

2022-04-28T06:18:27+00:00

Chris Lewis

Roar Guru


yep, get rid of the bounce. What a waste of time correcting a tradition. Silly traditions are worth getting rid of when the solution is so much fairer and certain.

2022-04-28T06:09:58+00:00

Dusty does Danger

Roar Rookie


Prez with due respect not much of an idea. We have 6 players 30 and older. 3 of them are 30. Geelong have 12. The game against the dogs we fielded the 3rd youngest team that weekend with 11 players 20 games or less. This weekend we have 10 players out on our list only 2nd to the Eagles the most with 11. Lambert may come back for his first game this year and make it 9. Vlastuin was brilliant in only his 2nd game this year. Dusty only played 1 game. Love to have our Captain back out no. 1. Backman. The only players we so called traded were ones we couldn’t keep due to other clubs throwing money at them at a time where they may have been a fringe player due to our success, Ellis, Butler, Higgins, Chol, CCJ, Markov. We didn’t get much for them. Our culture is different to North.

2022-04-28T05:47:03+00:00

Doctor Rotcod

Roar Rookie


I think that's called tootling your own black and white kazoo. Maybe they want him to have more than a training session. Sadly, I don't think the Eagles will win even with the absence of senior players from the Tigers side. Ruckmen get injured in other ways other than knee on knee. Naitanui, Xerri, McInerney and others come to mind. Big players crash to earth, have other big players land on them, tackle them or trip them. Lean rucks get one kind of injury, bulky rucks another.

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