My love-hate relationship with Eddie's new England

By Joshua Makepeace / Roar Rookie

It’s fair to say that I have a love-hate relationship with Eddie Jones. I’ll never forget the 2019 World Cup semi-final win over New Zealand, but many of his squad selections over his seven-year tenure have baffled and continue to baffle me and my fellow England fans.

Many of these are where Jones takes a very long time to select an up-and-coming premiership star yet to play for England. Sam Simmonds, Marcus Smith, and Alex Dombrandt are all examples of this. What was even more frustrating was that they all took to Test rugby like a duck to water.

But then Eddie seemed to change his ways and took his chance in the form of a Lions tour to blood new players. Yes, these two periods may overlap slightly, but Jones gave debuts to Adam Radwan, Jamie Blamire and Freddie Steward than he would have before.

This leads us now to the ‘new England’. I would say this is the England who defeated the Aussies and Saffas in last year’s Autumn Nations Series. It was a mix of the old, new and relatively experienced. In the first category you had Jonny May, Ben Youngs, Maro Itoje and Courtney Lawes. In the second were Tom Curry and Sam Underhill. Finally, in the third was the previously mentioned Steward, Smith, Simmonds, Dombrandt and Blamire as well as Raffi Quirke, Bevan Rodd and Aussie-born Nic Dolly.

All of the players in each section played in the South Africa win, and one thing was for sure: there was more of the new than there was of the old. This looked to be the perfect mould for an exciting side that could challenge for the 2023 World Cup and even win it, led by Jones, who by not listening to the media, brilliantly integrated the young English talent and got them used to Test rugby.

Then the 2022 Six Nations happened, where Jones became even riskier and played more inexperienced players. Luke Cowan-Dickie was starting, with Nick Isiekwe being brought in. England were disappointing then, losing more games than they won. Eddie seems to have now become scared, and reverted back to his old ways, being the more conservative, unpopular version of Eddie Jones among the English public.

The reason I say this is because of his squad selection for the Australia summer series. Billy Vunipola and Danny Care are back in the England fold. Both have had a long time out of the England squad and were assumed to be gone forever, especially in Care’s case, but Jones never rules out a player, and after good form from both – I have bemoaned Eddie for not reselecting Care for the last one and a half years – they are back. However, there are still four uncapped players in the newest Test squad.

It seems Jones believes a slightly less brave team selection is the way forward towards a World Cup-winning side, and I see why he thinks so. It worked so well in the autumn, but when he became more adventurous earlier this year it didn’t work.

However, don’t be fooled into thinking it will be boring, boring England come next month.

The Crowd Says:

2022-06-30T14:38:55+00:00

Francisco Roldan

Roar Rookie


Hello Joshua...! I share the taste that this English squad leaves you today. Experiencing a more expansive and aggressive game was a necessary option for England. However, that option has not yet been reflected in the field. Reducing kicking possessions and expanding the passing game hasn't been easy for inexperienced players and newcomers to piece together. The return of Bily Vunipola seems important to me. We all got to see it in the #LEIvSAR Premiership final and how ball carrying worked. The blend that Eddie Jones achieves will begin to be defined from the Autumn Series.

AUTHOR

2022-06-29T16:29:14+00:00

Joshua Makepeace

Roar Rookie


You're not wrong there

2022-06-29T09:32:56+00:00

Perthstayer

Roar Rookie


Bar the prop this is very good England pack. Bill V has firing and the spine of him, Itoje and George is ominous. Care's also on form, who gives a damn about his age, if it's 15-15 with 10 minutes to go it's nice to have an old head come on. 4 lineout catchers/spoilers and Lawes with Billy V will be a better 6. If WB's let penalty count get between 10-15 then MK will need to be at his best to balance the score!

2022-06-29T05:52:03+00:00

Bodger

Roar Rookie


Personally think it will be a close series, will be awesome to get a couple of wins so fingers crossed.

2022-06-29T05:17:17+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


Because his results tend to fall off a cliff after a while

2022-06-29T03:13:53+00:00

Adam (Though An Imposter)

Roar Rookie


It's that detailed analysis that you can only get here.

2022-06-28T22:53:30+00:00

Machooka

Roar Guru


Thanks Bodger for the betting intel... reckon Wallaby favouritism is only due to home ground advantage?! Which means that if the 'smart money' is presently as is we're all in for a tight Test series. Obviously we will all be smarter for the fact after this w'end. :happy:

AUTHOR

2022-06-28T19:12:40+00:00

Joshua Makepeace

Roar Rookie


You're right, I think you can find the "Ashes hatred" in every sport, particularly the ones where England and Australia are both top international teams, such as in rugby union.

2022-06-28T19:05:13+00:00

Bobby

Roar Rookie


Australians always want to win, against anybody. But beating England has long and historic roots going back hundreds of years. There is nothing "sweeter".

AUTHOR

2022-06-28T16:01:56+00:00

Joshua Makepeace

Roar Rookie


Why? He is certainly brave and independent enough to be in the top job.

AUTHOR

2022-06-28T16:00:35+00:00

Joshua Makepeace

Roar Rookie


I wonder that as well, Eddie said he was playing like a “test number 8” in the Premiership final. We haven’t seen that from Billy V in a long time.

2022-06-28T12:44:35+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


I'm confused Tooly. Is that your preferred squad or the 23 boofheads picked by Rennie?

2022-06-28T12:35:36+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


He's best suited to a caretaker or assistant role but he'd never admit it!

2022-06-28T12:24:14+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: very good!

2022-06-28T10:17:39+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


For sure. Billy V's form was worthy of selection regardless of injuries, however. Makes you wonder if he'd have been picked if all were fit and available

2022-06-28T09:53:30+00:00

Bodger

Roar Rookie


I had to check the odds at the bookies to see who they thought were favourites, slightly surprised they have the Wallabies as favourites. You can get some good odds on Ireland which I was surprised with. I'm no gambler though so will be sitting back enjoying the games.

2022-06-28T07:13:38+00:00

Tooly

Roar Rookie


We can run the legs off them with young mobile players . Unfortunately Dave wants boof heads , old and recent failures. Tupou , Lonergan , Samu , Valentini , Wilson , McReight , Gamble , McDermott, Lolisio , Paisami, Kelloway , Banks , Petaia , Loto . Add a bit of muscle in Swain , Holloway , Phillip , Alaatoa, Sio , Slipper , Bell , Faingaa , Koreibeti and Kerevi.

2022-06-28T06:00:00+00:00

Busted Fullback

Roar Rookie


I am not a Jones apologist. In fact, when he was up here with the Reds I, like most others, couldn’t wait to be rid of the “Tah” infidel. It was only some time later that we learnt of the troubles he was going through with a brain tumour (I believe). Due to this, I’m willing to cut him a little slack over this time period. Otherwise, he’s been too successful in so many environments that you’d be crazy to underestimate whatever it is he has planned.

2022-06-28T05:55:10+00:00

Just Nuisance

Roar Rookie


No doubt you are in the majority . Sooner or later , time is running out , England are going to have to reveal themselves. Assuming there is a bigger plan to reveal . The only sector that still seem to support him are his players . Lose them it’s game over .

AUTHOR

2022-06-28T05:45:09+00:00

Joshua Makepeace

Roar Rookie


I also find it very difficult to support him at times.

More Comments on The Roar

Read more at The Roar