The top eight rated: Which teams can actually win the flag?

By Cameron Rose / Expert

Last week we looked at the bottom ten teams, the clubs that won’t be featuring in September.

Now we turn our attention to those that are playing finals football and assess who is a realistic chance of holding up the cup and which teams are just making up the numbers.

8. Western Bulldogs

There’s always one or two easy kills in the first week of finals, and it just so happens that this year they are playing each other in an elimination final.

The difference with the Dogs is that we’ve seen them make two grand finals in the last six seasons from outside the top four. Last year they even lost their last three home-and-away matches before turning their form around. This year they have gone two wins, two losses, two wins and two losses in their last eight matches.

Nothing’s come easily for the Dogs this year. They have never quite clicked, with their entire midfield seemingly less than the sum of their parts. A lot falls onto the shoulders of Aaron Naughton and Cody Weightman up forward, and there’s not a lot of faith in the key defenders to get the job done.

Still, Luke Beveridge is proven as both a madman and a genius, and if there’s ever a coach you’d back to go to Perth and win an elimination final, it’s him. Which is exactly what he did in 2016.

7. Richmond Tigers

The beauty of September this year is that the two bottom-ranked teams have either made a grand final or won a flag in five of the last six seasons. They know how to get there and they know how to win. The Tigers have won ten of their 12 finals since 2017.

Richmond has certainly played football as good as anything they produced in their premiership years, but their problem has been that it hasn’t lasted anywhere near as long as in their glory days. Their biggest weakness is getting heavily scored against too quickly.

With the pre-finals bye, it is about which team strikes September in their best form and puts together their best month of the season. The Tigers have won four in a row and are playing with unity and cohesion, and in Tom Lynch they have the form key forward of the competition. They tick the box of a team peaking at the right time.

Can they win four in a row? They might not even win one. But opposition teams will be sleeping with the light on as long as they are alive.

(Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

6. Brisbane Lions

The Lions have been the biggest finals failures of the last half-decade. They’ve finished in the top four three times, including the top two twice, and won more home-and-away games than any team, yet they have only one finals win to show for it.

Brisbane under Chris Fagan have had no problem scoring but have never defended like premiership material. Top two for scoring across 2019-22, they have ranked seventh, seventh, fifth and tenth in defence. The premiership teams have ranked fourth, third, second and first in the last four seasons.

Everything points to a shoot-out in the first final between the Lions and Tigers at the Gabba, but sometimes things aren’t that obvious. Clearances will be important, scoring from them more so.

Cam Rayner played all 22 games this year, Noah Answerth 21 and Marcus Adams 18. None will be there on Thursday night. Even if they win, Brisbane then face three weeks on the road. Once again, it won’t be their year.

(Photo by Russell Freeman/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

5. Fremantle Dockers

The Dockers hit September with a little bit of momentum, winning their last three games, including one against their rivals on Saturday, the Western Bulldogs. But they’ve been anything but convincing in their other two, against bottom-three teams West Coast and GWS. Before that they were thumped by Melbourne, drew with an out-of-sorts Richmond and lost comfortably to Sydney.

It doesn’t scream premiership contention, particularly for a playing group that hasn’t played finals together.

In the games they haven’t won this year Fremantle have an average score of 48 points. It’s woefully inadequate and tells us that they simply can’t score when the heat goes up and the clamps go on, which doesn’t make a recipe for finals success. However, we do know they can defend well, which keeps them in games.

Nat Fyfe has been ruled out through injury, and there are question marks over Rory Lobb, Griffin Logue and Matt Taberner, so all is not rosy at the Dockers.

If Freo were playing anyone else this week, they’d be the easybeats of the first week, but being up against the Dogs gives them a chance. That’s as far as they’ll go, but it will have been a good grounding for next year.

(Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

4. Collingwood Magpies

Collingwood are certainly the top-four team that all others want to play, the law of averages figuring their Houdini act will run out soon enough. But my goodness, their belief is intoxicating, and their run of wins has ensured that this version of the Magpies will live long in the memory.

Against the choking Carlton, the Pies lost contested possessions by 44, clearances by 12 and inside 50s by 21. Against Melbourne in Round 21 they lost those stats by 24, 20 and 24 respectively. It is unsustainable, as coach Craig McRae has acknowledged.

Sydney handled them without much trouble in Round 22 in winning contested possessions by 29 and clearances by seven. Finally a scoreboard reflected general play when the Pies were involved.

What Collingwood have in their favour, assuming Geelong beat them on Saturday, is that they will land on the soft side of the semi-final draw and should make their way to a prelim. From there, anything can happen – but it probably won’t.

3. Sydney Swans

The Swans have almost become a contender by stealth in the second half of 2022.

After losing to Essendon – yes, Essendon! – in Round 16, Sydney were hanging onto eighth spot by percentage only, having also been poleaxed by Port Adelaide and Gold Coast, with other losses to Brisbane and Carlton thrown in. There were also wins against Melbourne and Richmond, but everything pointed to an inconsistent team still learning their way.

Since that loss to the Bombers they’ve tasted only victory and have now won seven in a row to command a double chance. They may have been overshadowed by the winning streaks of Geelong and Collingwood and the aura of Melbourne, but guess what: they’ve beaten all three of them this year. They’ve also claimed the scalps of the Dockers, Tigers and Dogs. They are the here and now.

Maybe Sydney are the ‘right time, right place’ team of this season. They have a midfield that bats sneakily deep, a forward line that has many threats in the air and on the ground, and an all-ground defence that is well honed and getting sharper.

(Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

2. Melbourne Demons

It’s hard to get Melbourne’s finals series out of your mind when thinking about what the Demons are capable of this year. Winning each final by an average margin of 63 points will do that, with the preliminary final and grand final drubbings one of the greatest one-two punches in the game’s history.

Are they capable of reaching those levels again? If so, then put down your glasses. If not, they can still go all the way.

When the Dees bring their A game, as they have done in pulverising wins against Brisbane and Freo in recent times, then you don’t want to be with anybody else. But then you remember that those appearances have been sporadic and that they have a 0-4 record against their fellow top-four sides this season.

Winning a premiership gives you credits that last the next season and beyond. People will still believe in you. Do Melbourne give the impression that their best is yet to come in 2022? You’d like to think it is. But perhaps they just don’t have it this year, not a full month of it anyway.

Kysaiah Pickett of the Demons celebrates kicking a goal. (Photo by Albert Perez/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

1. Geelong Cats

Ah, Geelong. Every year they tease us and every year they finish just like the previous – with a finals loss and no silverware.

Can we expect more of the same this time around, showing all the signs of age and slowness when the heat goes up in finals, befitting the oldest team in the league? Or have they finally unlocked the secret to extending their home-and-away dominance through September?

Their form is more irresistible than it’s ever been. Thirteen wins in a row is a ridiculous number, and an average winning margin of almost seven goals during that run is even more emphatic.

Half of their forward line were named All-Australian this year, their defence gives up nothing, and they have a midfield that is incredibly even and deep.

Players like Sam Menegola, Brandon Parfitt, Gryan Miers, Jon Ceglar and Mark O’Connor might not even be in the starting 22, and there is another handful of decent players not getting a game outside them.

The Cats deserve to be the number one seed, and we might look back in a month and marvel at how obvious it should have been. But the fact they have consistently fallen over, often spectacularly, gives enough pause to say it could be anyone’s year.

Geelong, Melbourne, Sydney and Richmond are the four most likely premiers. The Cats might be just that good, the Demons have the power, the Swans are peaking at just the right time and the Tigers can crash through them all with a wave of momentum if they get it right.

Collingwood, Fremantle, Brisbane and the Bulldogs might win a final or even two but are tougher to make a case for. The Pies’ luck – and a lot of it is luck – will run out, the Dockers aren’t good enough, the Lions can’t defend and the Dogs have surely been too poor to turn it around.

Bring it on!

The Crowd Says:

2022-09-02T07:06:57+00:00

Kemp

Roar Rookie


Tigers are the Lions finals bunny’s :stoked:

2022-09-02T05:42:37+00:00

Dusty does Danger

Roar Rookie


So it handed Richmond an advantage over Brisbane because they were locked away for 3 months in a motel which was flooded out and provided better training facilities than at Punt road! That’s hilarious :laughing: in the meantime the Lions, Port, Freo and Eagles had to endure staying at home and the freedom of moving around in their own environment - ah yeah that makes sense :shocked:

2022-09-02T03:51:07+00:00

Prez

Roar Rookie


Covid handed the established good teams an advantage. The top teams had already done the hard yards in developing and establishing a winning game style, and additional those same teams had the physical development done in the previous years to fall back on. So when covid came along and restricted how much clubs could work with the their players it actually assisted the top teams.

2022-09-02T00:37:40+00:00

JamesH

Roar Guru


I think Richmond would have been the perfect opponent for you. The team that can't lose tight games vs the team that can't win them!

2022-09-01T07:22:33+00:00

Wade

Guest


I think every team outside the miracle Pies and flaky Dogs can potentially make the Grand Final. Of the rest, I'll back one of Geelong, Melbourne or Richmond to win it: history suggests that the premiers are most often a finals hardened team.

2022-09-01T05:10:45+00:00

Birdman

Roar Rookie


Fair enough but most coaches think otherwise which certainly says plenty.

2022-09-01T02:03:48+00:00

O M

Roar Rookie


Go Pies!! :thumbup:

2022-09-01T00:27:31+00:00

PeteB

Roar Rookie


The Princes Park co tenants of the 70s and 80s never whinged about playing finals at the MCG. They just got on with the business of winning premierships. Perhaps that’s where the cats are going wrong :stoked:

2022-08-31T23:02:33+00:00

Macca

Roar Rookie


I suppose my point is would the BLues season be suddenly viewed as much more successful IF the Bulldogs had beaten the Hawks by 2 gaosl rather than 4 and Carlton had snuck into the finals by percentage only to lose to the Lions be 5 goals just like they did a month ago? It was much more enjoyable watching the Blues this year and they showed they are on the right path for long term success, so I am happy with their season to an extent, but only improved from 13th to 9th would it suddenly become a massive success if they got to 8th? You are right you have to acknowledge what went right and what you did well but as Voiss says “There’s no doubt we have to acknowledge how far we’ve come, we’ve been able to progress so many things. But we also walk away not getting what we really wanted.”

2022-08-31T22:07:00+00:00

Mr Right

Roar Rookie


You are fully entitled to your view Macca but I disagree. The Hawks had a pretty poor season in 2010 for a team with their playing strength. But in 2011 they had a 18-4 season. They played their hearts out in the prelim but lost to the flag favourites by 3 points. They gave it their best & yes was I disappointed with the loss but I was pretty happy with their strong season playing against some pretty strong sides. Including Geelong, Collingwood, Saints, West Coast & I think even Carlton had a strong side that year. The didn't win the flag, but they gave it their best.

2022-08-31T21:21:56+00:00

Macca

Roar Rookie


The reason for the difference is how close the teams are (or were perceived to be) to actually winning the premiership. It isn’t a matter of saying well 16 other clubs didn’t win it either it is saying you shouldn’t be content unless you won. Perhaps the reason for GWS finishing 16th this year was because they were too happy with finishing second? As a great man once said, if you ain’t first you’re last.

2022-08-31T20:37:55+00:00

Dusty does Danger

Roar Rookie


As Teddy would say - you stuck right up them! :boxing: Couldn’t have said it better- cased closed. Take your bat and ball :cricket: and go home!

2022-08-31T20:35:18+00:00

Dusty does Danger

Roar Rookie


Spot on PB best comment I’ve heard from a Carlton supporter all year. Otherwise you blokes would spit and polish Princess Park and ban every Cat supporter ( or Pies for that matter) to the ground! Back to the Future :shocked:

2022-08-31T20:11:13+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


That’s a ripping taunt at the Cats OM. Love it.

2022-08-31T20:09:50+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Ads still loves the Pies Bretto. Surely he can shank that last kick for us? He’s still one of my favourite players btw.

2022-08-31T19:40:04+00:00

O M

Roar Rookie


What a ridiculous contrivance Cucumber Park is. Time to lobby the AFL to subsidise a Boutique Stadium at Punt Rd so the Tigers can play their home games on their actual home ground and enjoy a ridiculous home ground advantage the equivalent of the Cats even if it is to the detriment of their supporter base and football in general. What a selfish, self entitled, self righteous Club they are? And don’t they throw the toys out of the cot when they don’t get what they want. When they’re a Club as big as they Tigers maybe someone will listen.

2022-08-31T17:18:50+00:00

Mr Right

Roar Rookie


Not really, but if you are saying there is no difference between GWS's 2019 season where they reached the GF & their 2022 season where they finished 16th, I think you will find the entire club & it's fans would strongly disagree. If you are going lump the Bulldogs & North's 2021 seasons in the same basket, then I think you will find virtually all footy fans would disagree. Having that view is a very soft out for for long term underperforming clubs by allowing them to say "well another 16 clubs didn't win the comp either so what's the difference?".

2022-08-31T14:52:21+00:00

Paul cotton

Guest


Well the Dees gave me massive joy last year. Finished the season well with a close win against blues and strong win against lions. To have the double chance is a real positive. Game against swannies should be great but I reckon we will get them. Just a comment here. There are some players that are fantastic but when they miss a game their team finds good ways to still play and it can actually alter their style for a game I will give 2 examples of where the demons lost this year and how having a good player out affects games. Against swans buddy was out. Swans focus on him a lot moving the ball in and that day they found other avenues to goal. When Dees lost to dogs Caleb Daniel didn't play. They use him continually to move the ball out of their backline and sometimes it's slow movement. Without him in the team they went for broke against Dee's and moved the ball really quickly which we struggle against. I am not saying we would/should have won those games just merely an observation I reckon we will win this Friday.

2022-08-31T13:40:48+00:00

Dusty does Danger

Roar Rookie


AFL set the draw not Richmond. I might remind you they finished outside the 8 last year - maybe that is why. I also told everyone on the roar they would play finals on the back of their draw. No one mentioned anything last year when they had the draw from hell. Or 2020 when they spent 3 months in solitary confinement to win the greatest premiership of all time! BTW Cats and Swans were not that convincing against an undermanned Tigs. You might want to watch those games.

2022-08-31T13:34:03+00:00

Dusty does Danger

Roar Rookie


Yes but couldn’t beat lowly Tigers without Lynch!

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