A deep dive into why Anthony Griffin should be embarrassed about his team list

By John Collison / Roar Pro

Strange team lists are not that unusual in the NRL. Injuries can wreak havoc on teams from week to week, and representative commitments can hit even the healthiest of clubs, causing strange reshuffles.

What is more unusual are large-scale changes that remain unexplained through external causes like the two mentioned above.

Anthony Griffin is an unusual coach, to say the least. Before the Dragons, he coached two quite well-performing clubs in the Broncos and the Panthers.

However, even while he was there (and especially during his exodus from the foot of the mountains), there was a lot of talk about players and other members of staff being unhappy.

Those who can remember back to his Panther days (which seem like a lifetime ago as the black cats now sit on top of back-to-back premierships) will recall rumours about the team performing well despite his coaching, not because of it.

The feeling seemed to be that the Panthers would start games following Hooks’ conservative style of football, fall behind and then ditch the gameplan and win with a miraculous comeback. Considering the amount of come-from-behind wins they did have and Hook’s acrimonious departure just before the finals, it would appear that there was some fire behind all the smoke.

Anthony Griffin. (Photo by Bradley Kanaris/Getty Images)

At his third and potentially last coaching gig, Anthony Griffin has produced perhaps the most embarrassing team list in his career.

From top to bottom, the team list is beyond frustrating, and a lot of the core issues of this week’s drama at the Dragons are not being discussed at length. Here is a deep dive into why this week’s team list is so utterly poor.

The headline act

Of course, the most attention has to be given to the dropping of Zac Lomax. Lomax is one of the Dragons’ highest earners and has pulled off some truly incredible plays (both incredibly good and bad) during his time at the club.

While his goal-kicking woes are no secret this year, you would be hard-pressed to look at the Dragons and identify him as the weak link. He isn’t that fast, but he is a big frame, firm in defence and versatile in attack, although he is down on confidence.

What is truly annoying, however, is that Lomax has seemingly been trapped in a cage of someone else’s making. At the start of this season, he was swapped from his favoured right edge to the left. He was also given kicking lessons by Daryl Halligan, where it was suggested he switch from a higher kicking tee (that he has used his whole career) to a much shorter one.

Sure, he is a hot and cold player who has mostly been on the cooler side of that spectrum this year, but that seems to be at least in part down to coaching decisions outside of his control.

(Photo by Mark Evans/Getty Images)

Hook’s retirement home

While a lot could and is being said about Lomax, what is not noticed by most is the continued appearance of Moses Mbye and Ben Murdoch-Masila on Dragons team lists.

What makes the ongoing presence of Moses Mbye even more puzzling is the axing of promising young gun Jacob Liddle. While he has not been a world beater, by any possible metric you want to look at, Jacob has outperformed Moses whenever given a chance.

Jacob averages 24 tackles a game, Moses just 20, Jacob runs for around 55 metres a game, Moses a measly 28, Jacob has two tries, an assist, a couple of linebreaks and line break assists, Moses has one try assist, one linebreak and one linebreak assist.

That’s a lot of numbers that all point to Jacob being far more reliable than Moses, but even with intangible metrics like his service from dummy half and positioning, Jacob is just leagues in front.

Murdoch-Masila has, thankfully, been demoted from starting second rower to a bench position, but even then, one wonders why he is still there for just one stint a game when young gun Toby Couchman has been dropped.

Suffice it to say, without boring you with even more numbers, Toby has also been better than Murdoch-Masila and is far younger.

Hook’s insistence on keeping players in the team who are well past it over the ones who should be considered the future of the club is maddening.

A hammer in the works

As mentioned in my previous article about clubs persisting with unwanted players, Junior Amone still being welcome around the team not only fails to make sense from an ethical standpoint but purely from his own statistics it is one that does not add up.

Amone may be a talented player who is being held back by the coach’s playstyle, but by that same logic, it would stand to reason Hook would choose to start Sullivan and at least see if he fits better. His deficiencies in both attack and defence are far worse than Lomax’s.

An accidental stroke of genius

Due to injuries, suspension and maybe just sheer luck, Hook finally named Jack De Belin at lock and moved Jack Bird to the second row three weeks ago when they took on the Raiders.

De Belin averages more tackles, more metres and is a far better link man when playing at lock than when he had been used in a prop or interchange role.

Last week in an otherwise putrid performance from the team, Jack De Belin made 43 tackles, missed none, broke four tackles, ran for 178 metres and played the full 80 minutes.

Those are elite numbers, and Jack Bird’s own figures were not that significantly impacted either, so it seemed like Hook had finally realised that De Belin played at lock for almost a decade before Griffin started coaching the club.

Alas, with this week’s team list, Jack Bird is back at lock, De Belin is named at prop, and Billy Burns appears for his first game of the year for some inexplicable reason.

Jack Bird is perfectly serviceable at lock and has sparks of genius, but he also can get into his own head at times and cause issues for the club with unforced errors and missed tackles.

With Jack De Belin at lock, you know exactly what you are getting and can plan around it to perfection. Why would you weaken the second row with a virtual rookie when all it would take is to move Michael Molo up from the bench to start at prop, as he has multiple times this year?

What was the point of starting Jaiyden Hunt last week in the second row only to swap him out with another newbie?

Understanding the context

One thing you must keep in mind when reading through these changes is that Hook knows what effect his dropping of certain players will have both in the media and the team.

He knew it would be the focus of the news on team list Tuesday and that it would annoy Lomax, Liddle and potentially many others within the team.

A great coach rewards good performances, is clear with their players about his expectations and sets them up to succeed.

Dropping Lomax after changing around both his position on the field and his kicking style, while knowing it would be headline news and another distraction, is embarrassing, to say the least.

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If reports are to be believed, he wouldn’t even tell Lomax or Liddle why they lost their spot, nor did he front up to any media. There is no other read into the situation other than it being a desperate move by a coach about to exit the club looking for a reason he can blame his failure on.

The Dragons are in a big hole no matter where they go from here. They may even end up beating the Tigers and a few other teams to avoid last place this year, but it certainly does look dire.

The season is well and truly a wash for them, and if they can get out of it with a new coach, no wooden spoon and a bit less dead weight on their roster next year, then that should be considered a major win.

The Crowd Says:

2023-05-15T10:19:39+00:00

Gus O

Roar Rookie


How did he get the job at the Broncos? He must have delivered impressive performance somewhere to be employed for that job.

2023-05-08T01:55:45+00:00

Vince Briscoe

Roar Rookie


Jack Bird is the new Matt Dufty. Can set up a try then his mistakes let's the opposition score three.

2023-05-07T12:28:25+00:00

Gus O

Roar Rookie


Griffin is the caretaker coach. It’s clearly not working with only 2 wins and running equal last place after 10 rounds… but why would anyone leave a job at another club to take over as short term caretaker? StG need to get on with the job of securing the best coaching team for 2024 and for sustained success, and let the world know when it’s confirmed. Hook’s instruction should be to pick and stick with the best spine combination, and enjoy the rest of the season with no pressure. StG can’t drop any lower on the ladder than their current position (equal last), and no NRL club will want to hire Griffin as head coach in the future - so where is the pressure? Nothing to lose now for Griffin, might as well enjoy the remainder of 2023 season and so long as the team works hard in defence, give them a licence to play a bit of footy. What’s the worst that could happen?

2023-05-07T00:51:57+00:00

George of Lydda

Roar Rookie


Maybe it's just me but the Dolphins remind me of the Dragons during the Bennet years.

2023-05-05T11:30:40+00:00

Heyou

Roar Rookie


Hitting all the nails on their heads with that hammer author. :thumbup: :thumbup: St George Illawarra has some deep-seated, thoroughly entrenched problems that won’t be fixed by a change of coach. But it would surely do the team some good if it is the coach who understands the complexities and nuances of this nrl brand of RL. May that hammer ring a few bells in the Dragons boardroom. I can dream.

2023-05-05T03:25:24+00:00

danwain

Roar Rookie


I dread the 5th tackle in a dragons game, because I know it's going to be s#$&

2023-05-04T23:12:34+00:00

Noel

Roar Rookie


Yeah, dare I say that if they go down the 'caretaker' route, they should only do so with the full time position for '24 already signed, sealed and delivered. That way, players know who the coach will be next year. Must be hard to recruit when you don't know what you're walking in to. It's going to take a while to fix this box of broken glass.

2023-05-04T23:06:53+00:00

Noel

Roar Rookie


I hope Couchman works on his hands. He looks a prospect, for sure, he just seems to get the dropsies a lot.

2023-05-04T09:17:49+00:00

Abbot

Roar Rookie


Not sure if Mick Potter wants a full time gig, but that’s who I’d ask. He’s been head coach overseas and local so has plenty of experience, which he will need all of to fix the Dragons! Plus he’s a former dragons player as well for those that think they need someone who knows the “dragons culture” of old.

2023-05-04T08:24:11+00:00

Panthers

Roar Rookie


A new coach going there, would have to be in a strong enough position to demand what he says goes regarding the first grade squad . Plus have a good input into who the club recruits / keeps & how the junior system is run. Anything less & they’re in a similar position to Griffin. Anything less & why would you want the job , other than to collect a bit of money over a few years.

2023-05-04T05:23:51+00:00

Albo

Roar Rookie


He has never been used properly at the Dragons. He is a try scoring forward, but he has never been set up to use his abilities here. Too many other players around him playing off the tops of their heads .

AUTHOR

2023-05-04T05:08:52+00:00

John Collison

Roar Pro


No one really had a great game last week you won't hear any arguments from me. Couchman did make more metres in less time though and was actively looking to get involved.

2023-05-04T05:00:58+00:00

Panthers

Roar Rookie


Just a note on the metres made. Masila was 40 metres. Ben Hunt made 37. Little made 26 . Couchman is being talked up & he made 49 metres.

2023-05-04T05:00:14+00:00

Albo

Roar Rookie


I thought he was gone when he left Penrith in 2015 for the Super League ? But he did score 42 tries in 127 matches for Salford & Warrington between 2016 -2020, before returning to the Warriors where he scored 7 tries in 27 matches for them in 2021-2022. I guess the Dragons have been hoping for some more try scoring from him this year ? But nothing as yet ? Though he certainly hasn’t been used to best effect by those who should be setting him up.

2023-05-04T04:47:38+00:00

Panthers

Roar Rookie


Fair enough. He still looked like he troubled the opposition more than many of the other forwards.

AUTHOR

2023-05-04T04:36:57+00:00

John Collison

Roar Pro


He played for 34 minutes and made 39 metres. He has made over 100 metres only once this entire year, and until last week he was the starting second-rower.

2023-05-04T04:32:09+00:00

Panthers

Roar Rookie


Plus I’m sure the coach often doesn’t get a full say on who’s playing first grade. If the club has paid good money to buy or keep some players. Those in charge expect those players to play first grade.

2023-05-04T04:29:04+00:00

Panthers

Roar Rookie


I thought Masila was their most effective forward last weekend. Made ground & put a dent in the oppositions line quite a few times.

2023-05-04T00:49:16+00:00

Albo

Roar Rookie


I tend to agree . You know my thoughts on coaches. I still think it is all about the quality of the cattle. And for me, the Dragons have had overrated and underperforming cattle for a decade now. Steve Price was blamed originally for it, then Mary for 6 years, and now Hook. Sure they must take some of the blame for their rosters , but there is plenty of blame to go around for the Board and more so to the players themselves for not producing.

2023-05-03T23:06:36+00:00

Andrew01

Roar Rookie


Good read. I agree on some points. Neither Liddle nor Mybe are setting the word on fire, so i don't really see how dropping the one with greater upside really helps you. And I agree that Bird isn't a link man. He did play a bit of lock in the u/20's, but he was groomed into a backrower come centre for his ball running with an offload, not straight up passing. That said, I get from a supporter perspective they would look at the changes and selections and think the coach has been told he isn't wanted so he is sabotaging the place. From a neutral perspective, that seems less likely - Why would he want to damage his reputation presuming he still wants to coach? I think any coach has to balance his/her selections over the course of the season with blooding new talent and trying to win every week. From Griffin's perspective now though, he is just trying to find a way to win today. What would he care about blooding anyone at the expense of someone who has trained to play the role to try and win today? Not saying i agree with all his moves, but he isn't entirely to blame for selections that may not have the future in mind because the Board have put him in that position. And he can't be entirely blamed for the state of the squad - the Board are responsible for that because they don't have the right structures in place and haven't had them in place for about 5 years.

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