The rugby league records that will never be broken as Johnston closes in on Irvine’s mammoth try tally

By Paul Suttor / Expert

Alex Johnston is closing in on a record that many thought would never be broken – Ken Irvine’s magical mark of 212 tries which has stood for half a century.

The Rabbitohs winger touched down twice last weekend in his 200th match to lift his career tally to 171. He’s still a long way from reeling in Irvine but is on track to overhaul Brett Morris (176) and Steven Menzies (180) this season and perhaps even Billy Slater (190) to rise into second spot all time. 

Under contract until the end of 2025, Johnston should – barring injury – be within sight of Irvine before that deal runs out. 

If he maintains his current career strike rate, he would break the record just before he reaches the 250-game milestone although based on his efforts over the past three seasons, it could happen sooner.

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Johnston has scored 88 times in 78 games since the start of 2020 so it appears only a matter of time before he overtakes Irvine, who scored 171 for North Sydney and 41 for Manly during a 236-match career from 1958-73.

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Heading into Saturday’s Accor Stadium showdown with the Wests Tigers, the 27-year-old Papua New Guinean international is 35 tries clear of his next active rival – Roosters winger Daniel Tupou – so if he does get past Irvine, he should hold the record for a while. 

Josh Addo-Carr surprisingly has a slightly lower strike rate from 123 tries in 157 games and is only six months younger than Johnston so he would have to enjoy another five fruitful seasons to get into record-breaking territory. 

While that record that was previously thought of as unattainable is under threat, there are some premiership marks that are highly unlikely to ever be broken.

Premiership records that will never be broken

Biggest winning margin, highest score, most tries & goals – set by St George in the same game in 1935

The Saints gave the fledgling Canterbury-Bankstown club a lesson in just their fifth match of their foundation season when they romped to a 91-6 cakewalk at Earl Park, scoring 19 tries and booting 17 goals along the way. 

It was only 23-6 at half-time with the Berries booting three penalty goals before the floodgates opened.

Average points conceded in a season: 41.25 – Canterbury (1935). 

While Canterbury were clearly out of their league in year one, they quickly got their act together to become premiers just three seasons later.

Surely no team in the modern era will concede anywhere near that many points per game.

Unless of course the administrators decided to turn a bunch of half-baked ideas into rules without planning out the consequences, but they wouldn’t do that …

Lowest average score in a season: 4.2 – Wests (1909). 

Different times. There were only four occasions all season when a team topped 30 points and scorelines of 4-0 (in the three-point try era), 5-4 and 7-3 were common most weeks. Poor old Wests kicked of the season with a 10-3 win but that was the only time they hit double figures, racking up just eight tries in 10 outings. 

Lowest average score conceded in a season: 4.1 – Souths (1909). 

Souths were the premiers that year although the legitimacy of that varies on whether you’re talking to a Balmain fan or night – they didn’t turn up for the Grand Final due to a protest about the match being played as a curtain-raiser to a Wallabies vs Kangaroos fixture, Souths did and claimed the trophy on a forfeit.

Ken Irvine was a try-scoring magician.

Most field goals in a season – 29 (Eric Simms in 1968 and Barry Glasgow in 1969)

Even with two points on offer these days for long-range shots, there is no way any player is going to even try that many field goal attempts, let alone make them. Back then, a drop-goal was worth two even though a try was only three but wisely, the rulemakers cut it back to one because it discouraged teams from trying to get the ball over the line.

Most field goals in a match – 5 (Eric Simms for the 1969 Rabbitohs) 

He could kick them from halfway such was the power of the South Sydney legend’s right boot. There’s no scenario these days where a player would bang over five.

Longest unbeaten streak – 35 (Easts from 1935-38)

In a salary cap era, it’s nearly impossible for a team to assemble a roster that would go unbeaten for a single season let alone across four of them, which the Tricolours did during their golden era of the late 1930s, winning three straight titles.

Longest losing streak – 42 (University from 1934-36)

Being an amateur club in a professional competition was a bold strategy and the University club struggled to be competitive – collecting the wooden spoon 13 times during its 18 seasons. They won in Round 1 of 1934 but would have been forgiven for not remembering the words to their victory song by the time they next avoided defeat in the final match of 1936.

It ended up being their last ever triumph – they were winless the following year in what turned out to be their final season.

Premiership records that will (probably) never be broken

Most tries by a player in a season – Dave Brown – 38 in 1935. 

The future Immortal played 15 of Eastern Suburbs’ 16 matches that premiership-winning season, averaging more than 2.5 tries per game. Even in the modern era of 24 matches plus finals, it would be unlikely that a player could cross the stripe 39 times – Alex Johnston has managed 30 the past couple of years at Souths.

Most points by a player in a match – Dave Brown – 45 in 1935. 

Again, not totally inconceivable that a player could break this mark but pretty unlikely. They would clearly need to be the team’s goal-kicker and score at least five tries of their own and have a field day with the boot in a huge victory to get close.

Most tries by a player in a match – Frank Burge – 8 in 1920. 

And he was a forward! The Glebe Immortal’s high watermark has stood for more than a century with Easts winger Rod O’Loan (seven vs Uni in 1935 in his first match against his former club) the only player who’s scored seven. Josh Addo-Carr ran in six for Melbourne in 2021 in a 50-0 thumping of the Bunnies – he scored three inside the first 26 minutes before adding one just before half-time to be on track for Burge’s mark but only touched down two more times in the 66th and 71st minute.

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Most points by a player – Cameron Smith (2786 for Melbourne) Adam Reynolds is a chance – he’s on 2124, under contract for next year at Brisbane and keen to extend his career further. 

Nathan Cleary could be the first player to reach 3000 – he’s already racked up 1274 and he’s still only 25. If he continues his prolific output for the best part of another decade, the record will be his. 

What might have been for Hazem El Masri if he didn’t have Daryl Halligan ahead of him as the first-choice goal-kicker early in his career at Canterbury – he finished with what was then a premiership record 2418 points despite booting just nine goals in his first five seasons.

Most NRL appearances – 430 by Cameron Smith (2002-20)

Cleary, with 147 in the early stages of his eighth season, is again an outside chance of hauling in Smith but he would need to barely miss a match and play for another dozen years to be any hope. 

There are only three active members of the NRL’s 300 games club – James Tamou (307) in his final season, Jesse Bromwich (303 in the twilight of his career) and Ben Hunt, who gains entry when the Dragons play North Queensland on Saturday night, and is 33 and likely to retire when his contract runs out in 2025.

The Crowd Says:

2023-05-13T15:35:54+00:00

Tim Buck 3

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Simms kicked 29 field goals in 1968, then valued at two points a piece. His impact, along with peers such as Barry Glasgow and Phillip Hawthorne, was so great that another rule change was quickly implemented. And so in 1971, the modern field goal — worth a single point — was born.

2023-05-13T15:33:22+00:00

Tim Buck 3

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That's when the field goal was changed to one point.

2023-05-13T08:20:24+00:00

Big Daddy

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Amen to Kenny . :thumbup: :thumbup:

2023-05-13T08:18:38+00:00

Big Daddy

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Sorry can't mention Ken Irvine and any other winger in the same breadth . No comparison.

2023-05-13T07:03:12+00:00


Could not go to a better guy! 'Mr Reliable' I call him. And to think Rabbitohs we're Gona shift him to centre a few seasons back. Even to the point of him having no contract.

2023-05-13T06:03:56+00:00

Nico

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Golden point has ensured that the 1945 Balmain side's record of 4 draws in a season will never be topped. Their home record for the season read 2 wins, 1 loss and 4 draws. Parramatta equaled the record in 1949 but played 4 additional fixtures

2023-05-13T04:11:27+00:00

Nico

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South Sydney’s Les Brennan set a couple of records which will be hard to top: 29 tries in his debut season in 1954 when he turned out for 19 appearances, and a career strike rate of 1.33 tries per game across his 24 first grade games. Harold Horder holds the best strike rate for a player with over 100 first grade appearances with 152 tries from 136 games at 1.12 per game. If we include English footy Neil Fox’s career tally of 6220 points across 24 seasons will probably never be beaten. Alex Johnston will also still wind up a fair way short of Brian Bevan’s 757 career tries in just 670 appearances for Warrington/Blackpool

2023-05-13T02:08:44+00:00

Cadfael

Roar Guru


The number of field goals dropped when the four tackle rule was changed to six.

2023-05-13T01:52:37+00:00

adam smith

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Well said Big Mig! Specially your last sentence…a certain “Superstar” (also from South’s) would do well to follow Alex’s example.

2023-05-13T01:43:42+00:00

langparker

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And how many would Irvine have got if touching the corner post wasn’t counted as in touch?

2023-05-13T01:02:05+00:00

Tony Dargon

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Correction to above - Overall, he scored 321 tries in 329 359 top level games.

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2023-05-13T00:46:14+00:00

Paul Suttor

Expert


Eleven hundred % Never before, Never again. Am currently in the corner facing the wall in time out

2023-05-13T00:42:38+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


Most consecutive first grade games. Jason Taylor got just over 190 (Luke Douglas went close to overtaking him), and with the current concussion stand-down protocols, I can't see anyone getting close again.

2023-05-13T00:19:38+00:00

Big Mig

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Alex Johnston needs 42 tries to surpass Ken Irvine's impressive record, should he bag another 14 tries this year and then 14 tries in the next two years, then he's there. Note AJ has scored 30 tries per season in the last two seasons (i believe that too was a record in itself). . I wish AJ attains this record, despite having a great amount of respect for Ken Irvine's incredible feat (feet). AJ a La Perouse Souths junior has been a fan favourite since making his first-grade debut for the club back in 2014 where he scored 21 tries in 18 appearances as a rookie that year when Souths won the comp. He s not only a try scoring machine, a safe pair of hands, good in defence, but humble, fan fav (by all NRL fans) and a clean skin - good role model for all kids playing the game.

2023-05-13T00:13:39+00:00

Tony Dargon

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Nothing against AJ, but I'll be disappointed to see Irvine's record broken. Johnston has scored 171 tries from his 200 games compared to Irvine's 212 from 236 games, and Irvine spent all but 3 years of his 16 year career with North Sydney, who weren't that competitive in that era. Irvine also had the corner post to contend with. On top of his club career, Irvine also scored 30 tries from 24 games for NSW and 31 tries from 33 tests, and 46 tries in 53 Kangaroo tour matches (excluding tests). Overall, he scored 321 tries in 329 top level games.

2023-05-12T23:54:40+00:00

Tim Carter

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Jason Lowrie went around 120 games before scoring his first, but Twal is currently the highest to never score.

2023-05-12T23:32:54+00:00

Big Mig

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Truly amazing, that Simms kicked 86 field goals in his 206 game career, imagine the skill and composure. Andrew Johns kicked 20 in the NRL era. Indeed some of the best games, and best moments have been decided on FG's, think Thurston, Johns, or recently Cleary, Reynolds, DCE and Illias. All good for the game.

2023-05-12T23:19:09+00:00

Big Mig

Roar Rookie


LOL....laugh out loud

2023-05-12T23:18:18+00:00

Abbot

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The two point field goal is under utilised, though accuracy and a seven tackle restart are of course big reasons why it’s not used often. Imagine Eric Simms in 2023 kicking accurately for a 2 point field goal from halfway in a tight game - what a game changing momentum breaker he would be!

2023-05-12T23:17:55+00:00

Big Mig

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Irvine, Simms and St George (11) all truly great records.

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