Joey at least showing Origin passion in melodramatic radio family feud - Blues players should get on his wavelength

By Paul Suttor / Expert

In the grand scheme of things, Andrew Johns not showing up for a radio spot with his brother is not the most newsworthy of events. 

The fact that he and Matty are feuding again is grist for the mill of the 24/7 NRL news cycle and hopefully not too far down the track, he’s able to look back at it and laugh about how melodramatic he’s been. 

The eighth Immortal has been open about his battles with mental health in the past so none of us should jump to conclusions about his current stand-off with his brother. 

As he often does, Matty has tried to downplay the drama with humour by saying “it’s official – my brother is completely off me” and that it’s happened several times before dating back to when they shared a bedroom as boys in Cessnock.

And with Joey refusing to return to SEN anytime soon, the issue will probably linger in the background until the inevitable smoking of the peace pipe between the Knights legends.

Matthew and Andrew Johns with Blues selector Greg Alexander at a training session in 2018. (Photo by Matt King/Getty Images)

What sparked the rift was Matty talking up the intricacies of Billy Slater’s Origin coaching efforts and Joey, a member of the Blues staff, getting shirty about it. 

“I’m sick of you rapping Queensland, that’s what I’m sick of. You’re blowing smoke up their backsides, I couldn’t care less about Queensland. They’re the enemy. We grew up hating them, we grew up watching ‘The King’ (Wally Lewis) absolutely kill us.”

And that’s the kind of passion that appears to be missing from this current crop of NSW players. 

The Johns brothers grew up in the 1980s glued to their TVs on a Wednesday night as the star-studded Blues were frequently taken down by Lewis and his gang of great mates, who were also teammates, who had a win-at-all-costs attitude the moment they got a glimpse of a sky-blue jersey. 

For Andrew in particular, he translated that childhood fervour into not only great deeds on the Origin arena but he brought passion into each of his 23 games for the Blues, particularly at the end of his career.

In his final series before a neck injury prematurely ended his career, Johns answered the call after playing just one game in six weeks due to a broken jaw with NSW 1-0 down in the series and delivered one of the greatest individual performances in Origin history to inspire a 32-22 victory and the Blues went on to win the decider 32-10.

Andrew Johns celebrates a try with teammates during Origin II in 2005. (Photo by Chris McGrath/Getty Images)

Unfortunately for Brad Fittler, there’s no Joey Johns coming in to help his team overturn their current deficit after the 26-18 loss in Adelaide.

NSW in recent years, even when successful, have given off the air of a junior representative team assembled for a carnival gala day – a collection of talent who are doing their best but are separate parts making up a team rather than the Maroons who come across as a team trying to separate the parts of the opposition. 

Like the Johns boys, these Blues players when they were kids should have been left bemused and perhaps shed a few juvenile tears when they were allowed to stay up to watch Origin a school night only to see Cameron Smith, Johnathan Thurston, Darren Lockyer, Slater and co peel off eight straight series victories, drop one, and then win another three on the trot.

Those memories should be a motivating factor for this generation. 

The Blues used to be hampered by a disconnect between the Indigenous players and NSW but that is no longer the case, and the whispers suggesting Latrell Mitchell is not committed to the cause is hogwash.

He’s torn a calf muscle at an inopportune time and can’t play. Simple as that. 

There were many reasons why the selection of Tevita Pangai jnr for Origin I in Adelaide was blatantly wrong or, at the very least, risky but one of the biggest red flags was the fact that he had declared he grew up supporting Queensland.

This wasn’t a throwaway line as a young player that came back to haunt him. In multiple interviews he had spoken about Sam Thaiday, Justin Hodges and Greg Inglis being his favourite players, how he’d asked his parents if they could move north from Newcastle so he could qualify for the Maroons and that Queensland coach Kevin Walters should contact him in 2019 if he needed someone to help out at training.

Tevita Pangai jnr. (Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

First of all, a young Queensland player would never say such things about NSW and secondly, their selectors would put a permanent thick maroon line through their name if they dared utter such Sunshine State sacrilege. 

It’s interesting to note that from last year’s Origin squads, eight of the 11 NSW squad members with dual eligibility went on to represent other nations at the World Cup – Brian To’o, Kotoni Staggs, Daniel Tupou, Api Koroisau, Junior Paulo, Siosifa Talakai, Stephen Crichton and Joseph Suaalii. Payne Haas, Tariq Sims and Jacob Saifiti withdrew from World Cup selection.

On the Maroons side of the ledger, Valentine Holmes, Murray Taulagi, Jeremiah Nanai and Tino Fa’asuamaleaui pledged their allegiance to the Kangaroos with Felise Kaufusi and Josh Papalii electing to represent their Pacific heritage nations.

Some were probably not going to make the Kangaroos team anyway but most of the players made the call before Australia finalised their squad.

It may be a coincidence but this seems to indicate the Queenslanders with dual eligibility have a greater connection with Australia through their state.

Whether they win or lose in Origin II on Wednesday at Suncorp Stadium, the Blues need to show how much the result means to them.

It might even get Joey talking to his brother again.

The Crowd Says:

2023-06-18T01:36:50+00:00

up in the north

Roar Rookie


Anyone who watches the Sunday footy show on 9, just got the biggest laugh of the week when Cam Munster signed of from his interview by asking The Joey if he was talking to his brother yet. 'Lead balloons', comes to mind, no sense of humour that bloke.

2023-06-17T09:28:50+00:00

Brendon Waldron

Roar Pro


Damn, man, calm down. You're free to express your opinion, all I did was ask why you feel that way and then express mine, no need for the hostility...

2023-06-17T08:52:20+00:00

Choppy Zezers

Roar Rookie


Beautifully put and 100% agree.

2023-06-17T08:44:20+00:00

Choppy Zezers

Roar Rookie


Pure gold :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

AUTHOR

2023-06-17T07:36:01+00:00

Paul Suttor

Expert


it can come across as petulant and a bit sooky but he deserves credit for being invested in the result so much that it pi$$es him off. Some of the players after the game looked like they shrugged off their capitulation like it was no big deal

2023-06-17T06:16:17+00:00

Ben Pobjie

Expert


I don’t claim to be reading Joey’s mind, but if I were him I’d be mighty upset too - not because my brother was pumping up Queensland but because my brother was going out of his way to try to needle me in public just for a laugh.

2023-06-17T05:42:59+00:00

danwain

Roar Rookie


They don't have to Brendan, it's my opinion that all commentary should have the element of impartiality and I was simply agreeing with Andrews comment. I didn't like Cameron Smith yelling out 'Go Dozer' when Hunt scored the winning try in origin last year, I didn't enjoy when Phil Gould used to commentate Penrith games and go on and on about how good they are. I respect Billy Slater for being impartial and not a cheerleader when commentating storm games, also Ricky Ponting during Australian. cricket games is quite impartial and analytical. Are you fine with that explanation, can we move on now?

2023-06-17T05:22:21+00:00

Brendon Waldron

Roar Pro


Why? They shouldn't be referees, they shouldn't have anything to with the running of the contest, but commentary doesn't mean anything, it's just fluff.

2023-06-17T04:52:00+00:00

danwain

Roar Rookie


If they are assistant coaches that really shouldn't be on commentary

2023-06-17T04:36:22+00:00

Dutski

Roar Guru


Meh. Passion yes. Don’t need petulance. There is a difference.

2023-06-17T04:12:59+00:00

Poss

Roar Rookie


I understand what your saying Andrew01 but it all goes with the banter of the state rivalry... If your born in NSW or QLD that's usually your team for life it's a love/hate relationship.. And I really respect Joey for his loyalty I know it's probably a bit over the top..But hey we have to have a good guy & bad guy & my good guy is Joey...Bad Matty!!!

2023-06-17T03:52:41+00:00

Brendon Waldron

Roar Pro


A team's assistant coach should be impartial? I don't think so...

2023-06-17T03:24:32+00:00

danwain

Roar Rookie


Would be lovely to see that from some of the Queensland legends on channel 9, cough cough Cameron Smith

2023-06-17T03:23:27+00:00

danwain

Roar Rookie


One of the best comments I've seen on the roar

2023-06-17T02:32:40+00:00

U

Roar Rookie


He’s a bad sport whose been crying for a year.

2023-06-17T02:31:19+00:00

Brendon Waldron

Roar Pro


Understanding what makes Queensland so good is the key to stopping them. Matty understands that, his clown brother (and some others) need to get on board...

2023-06-17T02:03:56+00:00

Andrew01

Roar Rookie


I respect Matty being capable of being impartial. That is kind of what we want from professional people in the media.

2023-06-17T01:52:07+00:00

Choppy Zezers

Roar Rookie


:stoked: :stoked: :stoked:

2023-06-17T00:49:39+00:00

Poss

Roar Rookie


Lay off Joey please he is loyal to his State & the NSW players,something Matty obviously isn't..Matty should be ashamed of himself,something all NSW fans know is don't for any reason wrap QLD for any reason what's so ever...Good on you Joey your loyalty to NSW is commended & appreciated... :rugby:

2023-06-17T00:21:07+00:00

Lance Boil

Roar Rookie


Really Strange John's has such a distracted notion about passion or lack of. QLD live rent free in their heads it's so dumb! I think that's the "secret" the NSW brains trust are really that dumb.

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