Back to the future: The 'high risk' Bledisloe Cup gamble Eddie first pulled 21 years ago

By Christy Doran / Editor

World Cup-winning Wallaby Simon Poidevin believes Tom Hooper’s selection at openside flanker is a “high-risk” strategy but believes Eddie Jones won’t be wedded to the move away from tradition going forward.

Hooper, 22, was one of the many bombshell selections made by Jones for Saturday’s Bledisloe opener at the MCG.

After Fraser McReight wore the prized No.7 jersey against Argentina in the absence of Michael Hooper, Jones pulled another rabbit from the hat on Thursday by naming rising Brumbies forward Tom Hooper in the position despite featuring in the role just once for his Super Rugby side.

But once is all Jones needed to think that Hooper, the 199cm, 118kg utility forward, can do a job for the Wallabies after impressing against the Chiefs in the Brumbies’ Super Rugby semi-final loss.

“We just feel it’s a battle of the breakdown, we didn’t get enough pressure on the Argentinean breakdown last week and we feel Tom can do that job for us,” Jones told reporters on Thursday.

“I think the best game I saw from an Australian 7 [in 2023] was Tom against the Chiefs.

“The Chiefs were obviously a very good team in Super Rugby and the way he competed hard at the breakdown against those guys was first class.”

Tom Hooper. (Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images)

They’re comments that will make Michael Hooper and McReight sweat because neither one of the openside flankers managed to make a big impact on the opening two Tests of the year, where the Wallabies came out on the wrong side of the scoreboard on both occasions.

McReight, who was one of Australia’s best throughout Super Rugby, didn’t even make the bench with the bigger body of Rob Leota instead preferred.

Jones’ selection was a move towards the Springboks’ game plan, with the world champions currently rolling out giant Bulls back-rower Marco van Staden at openside flanker.

The question is, will it represent a thinking going forward in Australian rugby?

“I think you might, particularly at the international level,” former World Cup-winning blindside flanker Matt Cockbain told The Roar.

“Obviously, it’s such a physical game that speed and mass creates force. So, if you’ve got a 112 or 115kg guy versus a 100-ish kilo guy, then you’re probably going to win that battle if you can go in at about the same velocity, which tends to happen.”

Matt Cockbain (R) isn’t surprised Eddie Jones has turned to a bigger back-row to help stop the All Blacks. (Photo by Ross Land/Getty Images)

Cockbain, who has spent the week with the Wallabies during some personal development and is currently coaching in Japan, wasn’t surprised by Jones’ decision to turn to Hooper for more reasons than meets the eye.

Two decades ago the abrasive forward wore the No.7 jersey for Australia A.

“I know from my time with Eddie, I actually had one or two games at openside,” he said.

“When Mat Rogers and Wendell [Sailor] played their first game for Australia A against Canada (May, 2002), if you look at that team list, I’m at number seven there. So when there was a bit of pressure on that first breakdown from scrum or lineout, the idea around that was to put a big body over the ball to really try and negate that contested possession on first ruck.”

Jones has done just that, having seen the speed and precision and power that the All Blacks have played with over the past month, with Aaron Smith pulling the strings off the back of breathtakingly quick ball.

While the move to select Hooper – no relation to Michael – at openside flanker is move away from recent decades where the Wallabies had an embarrassment of riches in the role with David Wilson, George Smith, Phil Waugh and David Pocock at openside flanker, a look back in time reveals the Wallabies have had big back-rows featuring Poidevin, Troy Coker and Willie Ofahengaue.

Poidevin, who played alongside Jones for Randwick and was with him as recently as last Sunday for a Randwick function, doesn’t hide behind the fact Jones is running the gauntlet by selecting Hooper at openside flanker.

“You never try and second guess Eddie,” Poidevin told The Roar.

“On the surface, it’s a high-risk play playing Tom Hooper there. He’s not a natural seven and Dalton’s [Papalii] been absolutely one of the dominating backrowers of Southern Hemisphere rugby this year and he’s very, very quick to the breakdown.

“There’s no doubt that Tom’s got good speed for a big man. I think tactically Eddie’s just thought about last week against the Springboks, the All Blacks seemed to be punching through the breakdown pretty effectively and that got the big South African pack on the back foot.

“I think he probably wants to return fire with fire with big players going into that breakdown situation and obviously Hooper is that man.”

Tom Hooper in action during a Wallabies training session at Brighton Grammar School on July 25, 2023 in Melbourne. (Photo by Daniel Pockett/Getty Images)

Hooper is a no frills kind of player, who just wants to rip in and won’t take a backward step.

“But what you do know is it’ll be zero backward steps,” said his Brumbies defence coach Laurie Fisher, when interviewed ahead of Hooper’s debut in Pretoria earlier this month.

“He’ll be on the front foot for the whole game and he won’t be thinking twice about putting his head over a ball or carrying hard, he’ll just do it.”

That’s just the kind of player Jones wants because the Wallabies turned the ball over three times against Argentina because of a lack of urgency and awareness at the breakdown.

While Hooper’s debut in Pretoria didn’t go to plan it wasn’t because of his lack of desire. In fact, a proper examination reveals the debutant was let down badly by his teammates in defence when the Wallabies’ spacing and marking was brutally exposed.

Poidevin, who won the World Cup in 1991, said Hooper needed support against the All Blacks and called on the entire team, including the backs, to roll up their sleeves to ensure Jones’ game plan comes to fruition.

“I think the important thing is that he’s made that decision, he’s going with a big pack, he’s gone with a big back-row that every player from 1-15 has to play like a back-rower at any position on the field,” Poidevin said.

“That’s backs fighting for the ball at any sort of breakdown and not worrying about getting back into the backline because New Zealand are just masters of every player having the skills to make a pest of themselves at the breakdown.

“They fight harder than anybody in our forward pack. I just don’t get it. Guys have to be committed wherever they are on the field. And Eddie’s trying to bring a philosophy of play what’s in front of you and play it aggressively and don’t be robotic about how you’re thinking about the game and that’s the important thing.”

Eddie Jones has moved away from recent tradition to name a bigger back-rower. (Photo by Brendon Thorne/Getty Images)

Poidevin, however, said that going forward he would be surprised if Jones didn’t return to a harder on-ball option.

“You look at the success of Australia and in its big victories over the last decades it’s been dominant sevens whether it’s been George Smith, Phil Waugh or Michael Hooper, it’s an incredibly important part of the way we play the game,” Poidevin said.

“I think this is a tactical play by Eddie this time around. I don’t think it’s an ongoing strategy to have a big seven like South Africa do with Peter-Steph du Toit.

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“It’s a bit hard on Fraser McReight. I think Fraser’s been one of the form players of Australian rugby this year, but this is a very tactical move by Eddie.”

Cockbain said Saturday’s Bledisloe was an opportunity for Hooper to “stamp himself as a player” and had “all the attributes that Eddie wants” but agreed that the harder on-ball flanker option wasn’t a thing of the past.

“You look at a guy like Kwagga Smith. He’s not a big guy for South Africa and he’s routinely one of their best players. He probably didn’t have the best game against the All Blacks in the Rugby Championship, but no one did,” he said.

“I think there’s still scope for it. Definitely. It’s basically on the quality of the individual there.

“I think Fraser’s a great prospect. I really like him, actually. I think he’s a really good player if he wants it. It’s there for him moving forward. He’s just got to put it out in the paddock and prove that he’s the man to demand selection in that 15.”

The Crowd Says:

2023-07-29T08:24:55+00:00

Grev

Roar Rookie


He’s lost you after two tests. Hopefully the players have a bit more patience. He has to try things. Otherwise everyone complains that he pick’s Dave Rennie’s team and we make zero progress. Of course it’s a risk. But we were not winning before he arrived. He csn’t create magic players. He has to try stuff.

2023-07-29T08:00:41+00:00

Grev

Roar Rookie


Harry Wilson I think is bigger and faster than Tom Hooper. I think Hooper probably better at lineout time, but other than that I think Wilson would have the edge. I was making two points; If you’re going to pick a 6 to play at 7, then you need to get the player with the best skill set. You need a player to hit rucks; we have never seen Wilson trying to do that as a key role, but if he’s not taking the ball up 23 times a game then yes, I think he can do that. What I love about him, is his wider skill set. And if we pick a big physical back row without thinking of attack and link play then we don’t have the ability to turn defence into attack and pressure them. Why does Scott Robertson rate Wilson so highly? Because he’s dangerous. Because he can capitalise on opportunities. Level playing field; youre looking for a bigger player to fill the role of a 7 ( still a debatable risk), then I think Wilson would give you just as much grunt, but more other skills. Our best player in the mold of an Ardie Savea.

2023-07-28T22:44:51+00:00

Jimbo81

Roar Rookie


Last time we did this was 2011: Robbie deans brought no backup to Pocock. We played McCalman. Didn’t work.

2023-07-28T15:04:24+00:00

DaveJ

Roar Rookie


Poidevin wasn’t big. I played against him once. 6’ maybe a bit less. V strong but not big.

2023-07-28T13:44:39+00:00

Busted Fullback

Roar Rookie


It was that same water buffalo when you tried to tackle him.

2023-07-28T12:22:22+00:00

Wizz

Roar Rookie


Hit them hard in D drive them back ruck over ball...We don't poach it's a major weakness giving All blacks multiple phases..

2023-07-28T12:02:29+00:00

Bentnuc

Roar Pro


Not sure why the bledisloe isn’t a one off match each year. The other game we play the kiwis is in the RC. RC should expand to 6 teams with Fiji and Japan. All play once like the 6 nations alternating home games each year. It would make it so much more interesting for both trophies each year. Winner takes all bledisloe alternating home pitches each year. That would be exciting

2023-07-28T10:37:09+00:00

Spunkmeyer

Roar Rookie


Holloway Hooper Porecki? An out of form Frost. No genuine 7. Oh dear this is horrendous. The All Blacks will absolutely dominate this pedestrian pack athe breakdown. How many times do we have to say Jed Holloway is a deadset softie as a test blindside. Porecki is weak and Hooper too slow for a 7. The mind boggles with this pack.

2023-07-28T10:25:03+00:00

Bentnuc

Roar Pro


Would have much rather mcreight at 7 and t Hooper at 6. The more players we get competing for the ball the better

2023-07-28T10:19:19+00:00

K.F.T.D.

Roar Rookie


The eldest brother went into the priesthood. Running behind Mark was like running behind a water buffalo, clumps of dirt would climb up into face.

2023-07-28T09:24:56+00:00

RD

Roar Rookie


I sincerely hope Tom Hooper has a blinder and makes the 7 his own. This is no gamble by EJ. He understands that there is no place for small men at the breakdown. Any forward can get you 1 pilfer per game and for this you don’t need a special list 7. Tom Hooper was outstanding for the Brumbies in his only outing at 7 against the Chiefs. I would go to the extent of stating that Michael Hooper and Fraser Mcreight both should be kept at home. Their places in the 33 for the WC needs to be given to bigger bodies.

2023-07-28T07:49:40+00:00

Passit2me

Roar Rookie


I was thinking more of the attacking rucks, where it seems sometimes, the forwards expect the ball to pop out by itself so they can have their next carry. I really do think that they are over coached on their roles and positioning, as if they feel they can predict and control every facet of the game. They seem to have lost the concept of just playing what’s in front of them when it comes to the ruck. The basic stupidity of it, frustrates me no end.

2023-07-28T06:52:35+00:00

cj

Roar Rookie


A sign of a desperate coach is one who is always looking for the hail mary play. EJ appears to be someone who has to reinvent the wheel all the time or be seen to be a genius because some high risk tactic came off once. He had England humming and then he tinkered and tried to bring in a new style of play that was based upon how he believed the fame needed to be played and show everyone he was smarter than everyone else. Its why where ever he has coached he always burn people and loses the change room. It will happen again with Aus and its only a matter of time. He is a polarising personality. Id love a psych to comment on his personality.

2023-07-28T06:34:44+00:00

Nick Maguire

Roar Rookie


Grev, "Harry Wilson, who is bigger, faster" Than who? "He’s a more creative player who would better fill a 7 role" How does HW go at hitting rucks? If EJ wanted a player like that he would have picked one, clearly he doesn't and wants something else from the 7 role. EJ wants what he wants for reasons only he knows.

2023-07-28T05:31:09+00:00

Perthstayer

Roar Rookie


Jones is utterly ruthless, if his picks aren’t working he’ll sub them, possibly not to be seen again. Just remember what he did to Burrell & Harrison vs WBs. Then last year vs Babas he subbed Care with only 3 minutes til half time. I sense that a few players have just one shot.

2023-07-28T04:27:44+00:00

Seth

Roar Rookie


Tommy Hooper had a shocker v the Boks.He was Monstered, better stand up this week or his card will be marked with a big red X. No excuses for a fella who weighs 122kilos and is 6"8.

2023-07-28T04:25:26+00:00

Seth

Roar Rookie


So is this Eddies best 23? Has he finally settled on it now?

2023-07-28T04:20:55+00:00

Double Dribble

Roar Rookie


An absurd pack. 4 locks in the run on team? .This could get real ugly. All Blacks by 30.

2023-07-28T04:15:14+00:00

Jimbo81

Roar Rookie


this is precisely the aim of the Jones experiment - it will yield predictable results

2023-07-28T04:01:18+00:00

Bourkos

Roar Rookie


Xbox, he's not one of those ps pansies

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