'We can be a bloody good team': Eddie says he got selection right and Wallabies can still be RWC threat

By Christy Doran / Editor

As Eddie Jones took “full responsibility” for his side’s Bledisloe failure, the Wallabies coach defended his selection policy while also saying he believed there was enough in his side’s performance to suggest they can make a World Cup surge.

Despite leading 7-5 at the half-hour mark of their Bledisloe opener at the MCG, the Wallabies trailed 19-7 at half-time before conceding three more second-half tries to go down 38-7 in front of 83,944 fans.

The defeat was the Wallabies’ third straight loss to start Jones’ second tenure in charge of the national team, having been parachuted in to replace Dave Rennie in January.

Eddie Jones says the Wallabies can turn around their winless start to 2023 to emerge as a World Cup threat. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

Jones’ side was left to rue three key moments in the match, with Carter Gordon’s kick restart late in the first half allowing the All Blacks another chance to post more points on the stroke of half-time.

The Wallabies then squandered several opportunities to hit back early in the second half, as the All Blacks’ defence held the home side out on their tryline.

To rub salt into the wound, the All Blacks didn’t need a second invitation following Taniela Tupou’s yellow card for a high shot as Caleb Clarke scored the visitors’ fourth try.

Two more quickly came, as the All Blacks blew the score out with the Wallabies down to 14 men to seal the Bledisloe Cup for a 21st straight year.

“I think the scoreline flattered us, to be perfectly honest,” All Blacks coach Ian Foster said.

“We clearly deserved the win but I thought there was enough in that Aussie performance they will take away some good points from that. But they will regret they couldn’t put prolonged periods of pressure on us.”

Indeed, Jones highlighted the Wallabies’ inability to convert pressure into points as one of the deciding factors in Saturday’s miserable result.

“I’m very disappointed about the result, the scoreline – that’s a real negative for us,” Jones said.

“Big crowd. We wanted to show that this is a new team but, and there is always a but, our first 20 minutes showed what we are capable of.

“At the moment, when we put pressure on we can’t turn that into points and then we release pressure.

“We still seem to get disappointed on the field when we don’t get the rewards we think we deserve, which is an area we continue to work on.

“All in all it’s disappointing, but I really like the way we came out in the first 20 minutes and the first 15 or 20 minutes in the second half as well.

“They scored four of their six tries through yellow cards. They made us pay for that.

“The team is very much a work in progress but what I liked about the team tonight was the way they tactically took on New Zealand in the first 20 minutes.

“If you arrived from Mars and watched the first 20 minutes, you would probably think the gold team was the stronger team – that is the reality. But you’ve got to be able to do it for 80 minutes and when you have teams under pressure you have to convert that to points and that is a step we need to take.”

Eddie Jones says the Wallabies need to back its youth and pointed to Richie Mo’unga’s development in international rugby. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

Saturday’s 31-point loss was Carter Gordon’s starting debut in the No.10 jersey, with the 22-year-old one of seven changes to Jones’ starting side.

The Wallabies boss defended his changes, saying the next generation of players needed to be given a chance to show their worth.

“I think selection was right,” he responded to one journalist’s question around whether his statement regarding taking “responsibility” extended to picking the team.

“Are you suggesting it wasn’t? You can if you want to. I don’t mind a bit of discussion. Tell me who’d you pick?”

After it was put to him that Gordon struggled in the environment, Jones inferred he wasn’t surprised there were some teething problems but emphasised the need to usher through change. 

“I think he’s the best young 10 in Australia,” Jones said.

“I’ve seen Richie Mo’unga play Tests like that. And Richie Mo’unga if you look at his first 45 Tests, he had a bit of up and down in it. He wasn’t good enough, then he was good enough. And sometimes you’ve got to go through a bit of pain to bring young players through and I’m prepared to go through that.

“We’ve got an unsuccessful history at the moment and we need to turn it around. So we need to find players who can do it.”

As for Tom Hooper, who started at openside flanker in his second Test, Jones said he was impressed by what he saw from the 22-year-old Brumbies forward.

“Competitive. Good. I think he’s got a good future there,” Jones said.

“That’s a hard game for him to play and we wanted to find out where he’s at. So, we got a pretty good picture. I like his attitude. I like his competitiveness. 

“Wayne [Barnes] likes to have a continuous game. He likes to have a high ball in play game. So for a seven, it’s a hard job. I think in terms of the turnovers in the breakdown we probably shaded in that area. I haven’t seen the stats, but certainly my eye would tell me that. So, I thought he did a pretty good job.”

The Wallabies have plenty of selection headaches ahead of their final Test before Eddie Jones names his World Cup squad. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

Jones wouldn’t be drawn on selection changes ahead of next Saturday’s final Test before he names his World Cup squad.

“We’ll review the game again and have a look and see where we can make an improvement because one of the things is we want to win the second one,” he said.

“And there’s a bit of a gap there at the moment. So we’ve got to see how we can improve the team.”

Making matters worse, the Wallabies are resigned to losing tight-head prop Allan Alaalatoa for September’s World Cup campaign in France following a suspected ruptured Achilles.

Nor is Taniela Tupou, who made his comeback to the Wallabies via the bench, likely to replace the acting captain in Dunedin next week.

After fighting through severe discomfort, a rib-injury eventually ended Tupou’s night prematurely as he made his way off in the 58th minute.  He left the field moments before the Television Match Official picked up his high shot that resulted in a yellow card.

As a result, regular co-captain James Slipper could be shifted to tight-head prop given the lack of genuine international depth in the role at Jones’ disposal.

In another injury development, Jones said fellow co-captain Michael Hooper would also miss the return Bledisloe fixture next week and was also in doubt for the World Cup.

“He’s a long way away,” Jones said.

“I’m saying that he’s got a serious injury. And when you’ve got a serious injury there are deadlines and we need to find out the deadline. When you’ve got a calf injury, sometimes you don’t know how quickly it can recover.”

Having watched his Wallabies side get smashed 50-21 by the All Blacks in 2003 before beating them to make the World Cup final mere months later, Jones said all hope wasn’t lost.

“We got hammered by more than this way,” he said.

“I saw enough today to make me believe that we can [turn it around for the World Cup], but there’s a lot of hard work to do.

“Transforming a team from where they are now to a team that’s capable of beating New Zealand takes a lot of hard work and the clock’s ticking, but we’ve still got enough time. Every day counts.

“We might have to train on the plane on the way. We’ll see if we can get a Hercules or something, so we can do a bit of training on the way over. Everything counts. 

“Where’s there’s life there’s hope. I’ve coached teams like this before and you can turn it around.

“I saw enough today to know that we can be a bloody good team. It doesn’t look like it at the moment. You’re sitting there thinking, ‘shit, what’s his bloke talking about?’ But I’m telling you, we can turn it around and be very good too.

“For the fans, they got to keep being hopeful. Keep praying, whatever God they’ve got, keep praying to that, that we turn it around. We will.” 


The Crowd Says:

2023-08-04T00:44:57+00:00

Muglair

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'Always does the big things right, and built on doing the little things right. One of the few Wallabies who has the skills and knows when to use which one.

2023-08-04T00:42:17+00:00

Muglair

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Me too, every time they drop the ball.

2023-08-03T03:04:01+00:00

Lord Ted Said

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Hope. That’s all we seem to have. I liked 11 thru 15, although Ikitau might be a more stable option for 13. Otherwise, if you base it on the replies in this thread, we don’t know who is what and where. And we haven’t for a while. Halfback, five-eighth, hooker, both props, at least one second rower and then the back row other than Valentini. And we don’t have a goal kicker. Try as we might Australia has tried to win test matches without known goal kickers in the past. By and large it failed but we scored some lovely tries. This ain’t no smash and grab, this is a smash and get out the dustpan and broom job. And maybe the mop…

2023-08-02T09:17:12+00:00

Guess

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Yeah it's a sign of rotten organisation that is focusing on everything else except the main thing

2023-08-01T19:14:27+00:00

Nate

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Compared to how shite we have been playing and how dominant the ABs have been lately, ill take that 20ish min of good as something to work towards. Fitness and discipline (fitness is a big part of discipline) next and we’ll be not too bad. Dont expect us to be world beaters but Ill happily take a good game and the odd win.

2023-08-01T08:14:52+00:00

JD Kiwi

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That comes in a future article! The latest one looked back to Australia's history. The next distills all we've learnt from my articles on the biggest seven rugby nations on what does and doesn't work. After that it's how to make Australia great again!

2023-08-01T08:09:07+00:00

JD Kiwi

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The second coming! You’re exactly right, winning is what matters… but as Muglair said under my latest article that only comes from a long term strategy and relentless pursuit of excellence. There are no short cuts.

2023-08-01T06:33:24+00:00

Muglair

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I just had what an old colleague called a brain fart. Looking forward to seeing what you think should be done to turn it around.

2023-08-01T05:20:41+00:00

Muglair

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In 1998 he inherited a pretty good Brumbies squad too, and then took over from McQueen a Wallabies side which I guess would have been #1 in the world. However, it was also a team that was maybe already past its peak. My view is that we were lucky in 2003 as it was a pretty weak competition, possibly the weakest. England past their peak, the ABs with a sometimes flaky backline, and a misfiring lineout. We almost even won, except for a piece of Larkham foolishness. The lynchpin of most of our attack and spent a good deal of the game in and out of the blood bin. Eddie's management of the set piece was naïve, like a rugby league restart. I am sure he has moved on from that. I remember the joke; why does Nathan Sharpe not push in the scrum? He is concentrating on the line he has to run on the second hit up. I am sure he is a better coach now, but it does not really matter who is coach. 2015 was a bit of an aberration, a good experienced group of players and a turnaround coach. The 2016-2019 players was a shallow group and Rennie had a better run with the current crop. One thing that appears to have gone out of our game this year is the isolated ball runner. It was killing us, either because of turnovers, penalties for not releasing, or penalties for breakdown infringements caused by late arrivals. On the other hand we don't have much ball at all.

2023-08-01T05:08:13+00:00

Muglair

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RA liquidated and a new entity set up with rugby stakeholders. Its too hard to restructure RA into anything that would work. As to the last comment, that is actually what is affordable with these clowns running the show. "Rugby is a business" and we need high powered corporate types to run it? Sure there was a big crowd at the MCG but there are a lot of reasons for that, one of which is not the marketing smarts of RA. Cannot sell tickets to rugby matches, the reason SR and NRC were financial failures. This all about player development, coaching and pathways. There is a reason you will not find a successful commercial business which does not invest in its product and supply chains.

2023-08-01T01:32:29+00:00

Keith Johnson

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Achilles. Has anyone thought that the amount of Wallaby Achilles injuries is high? Could this be a strength and conditioning issue?

2023-07-31T23:12:27+00:00

Loosey

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Backed up by Hooper himself - "I probably would have liked to make a bit more stop tackles and probably went hunting a bit too much for the ball, if I’m being critical of myself"

2023-07-31T02:08:07+00:00

Kenners

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RA only thinks about history and heritage. All the 'lads' on the board are old boys from previous eras. The CEO Phil Waugh. The jersey has returned to the heritage colour. R.M Williams is doing heritage jerseys now. Eddie Jones is back; the 'Messiah returns' from the past. RA will do anything to reinvigorate the Wallabies' heritage, other than the only part of our heritage that fans want: winning! Haha.

2023-07-31T01:50:35+00:00

Tooly

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Lucky Eddie talking about training on the plane ? Training in the military covers a lot of territory . . Fitness . Skills . Rest and recovery . . Rehearsals of drills , checking equipment and test firing e weapons . At this stage Eddie should be concentrating on rehearsals with the men who are going into action not experimenting .

2023-07-31T00:22:39+00:00

RayinSydney

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Persepective? he's had a very long lead into coaching this team, he might be 3 games into it this time around but its not his first Rodeo, playing in South Africa and against the AB's isn't new to him or most of his playing group, they should be well prepared and more than competitive, so far they are way off the mark and all we are hearing is endless , 'were gonna' and winding up the opposition, all talk no action, fingers crossed he does something about it but I doubt it.

2023-07-30T11:25:05+00:00

The Crow Flies Backwards

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Martians love their rugby

2023-07-30T10:54:58+00:00

DG

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A big challenge for the Aussie coaches is improving basic skills under pressure. The kiwis seem to be stronger in this department which lets them play at speed . No easy fix but heading in the right direction .

2023-07-30T10:28:18+00:00

Full Credit to the Boys

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Probably not mate. But Eddie did take England to fifth in the Six Nations a number of times over the second part of his reign. We just lost to Argentina at home, and a second string BOK before getting smashed by NZ. We may have lost our best two tight heads. But I saw enough last night that we beat Fiji and Wales who have even bigger issues.

2023-07-30T10:15:57+00:00

JD Kiwi

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Was that ever a likelihood?

2023-07-30T10:15:40+00:00

Mike88

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Are you serious? Headshot. Barely touched him and Smith stayed down trying to milk it to cover his knock on. Pathetic. Seems to be the new thing with Argentina trying it through week before. Hope it comes back to both teams.

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