Weakest links, not superstars, often decide World Cups: So where are the fatal flaws in the top 10 contenders?

By Harry Jones / Expert

Eight finals spots await ten contenders in France, where the proud hosts, all four prior World Cup winners, the three Celtic nations, the Flying Fijians, and the lords of Latin American rugby have a realistic chance to vie for glory, at least as far as the quarterfinals.

Countless pieces, posts, pods, and pub debates will name and give fame to the ‘key players’ or ‘most vital’ or ‘ones to watch’ in these ten teams. The greatness of Antoine Dupont, Ardie Savea, Tadgh Furlong and Eben Etzebeth will be on full display in all the previews. But the best players in each position are a hair or two different, whilst the weakest links often decide things.

With years to identify and isolate flaws, what may separate qualifiers from ‘almost’ teams, semifinalists from mere quarters, and the eventual winners from second best is how their weakest players perform on the biggest stages. Who can be found out? Where and when?

In 2019, England’s fragility at prop, shallowness at scrumhalf, and lack of speed in cover defence after turnovers were exploited by South Africa; after they had probed New Zealand’s tight five deficiencies, using preplanned lineout starter plays.

We could say deficits decided it more than superlatives.

Who are the two weakest links for each of the ten candidates; one in the pack and one out back?

France

The French kick the ball a great distance from the tripod of 9-10-15. Almost every deep punt seems to have a 50-22 chance. This poses their slender weakness: the chase.

In a Six Nations tournament, only Ireland and Scotland are capable of punishing bad kicks by France. Freddie Steward fields them but does not have Beauden Barrett’s or Willie le Roux’s skill to set others free. The great Liam Williams is in a basket case squad at the moment and Italy cannot get over France’s 22 line.

France will face two of four teams who can and will exploit long kicks.

This will test the conditioning of Damian Penaud, who seems to be most interested when the ball is already in his hand, and Gabin Villiere, as strong as a prop, but sized like a scrumhalf. Villiere is likely the weakest link under the high ball against the likes of Hugo Keenan, Canan Moodie, and Will Jordan.

The rugby world rocked at the loss of Romain Ntamack, but he does not play the role of ten given to the other top contenders’ flyhalves. He defers to Dupont. No, it is Cyril Baille’s calf which has exposed the French heel of Achilles: backup props at scrum time.

Cyril Baille. (Photo by Lionel Hahn/Getty Images)

Baille is so important he is named despite likely missing all or most of the pool matches. This mean, whoever is the late-Test loosehead for France is the one all bomb squads and finishers will be targeting. Toulon strongman Jean-Baptiste Gros played 14 times for France Under20 but a last minute scrum against 35-cap Bok tighthead Vincent Koch will not be the same feeling.

New Zealand

The All Blacks found just the right time to bottom out and bounce back. The scrum has since been shored up, a lock or two to spare was found, Jason Ryan’s argonauts repelled mauls, Joe Schmidt put the starter back in the starter plays, Captain Cane refuted Peter O’Mahony’s intestinal comparison, and the Great Beaudy versus Richie beef was squashed; now they form a double-beef burger with plenty of bacon.

Cross kicks have found their targets once more (Air Jordan), and foes are kept guessing by a dynamic ten and static fifteen. When serious money is placed on the counter, the Kiwis will be the frontrunner for the tenth consecutive time. Flaw? What flaw?

The weakest links in the strongest team are hard to find, but they are likely on the wing and the bench.

Aaron Smith has outlasted all his understudies of yore and now is backed up by two relatively untested nines. Barely-capped Cam Roigard looks every bit the long-time successor but maybe not yet? Thus, if anything trips up the 118-cap legend, or he just wears down from attending a hundred rucks of less than two second duration, Scottish-born Finlay Christie will wear the heavy crown of All Black nine. He has not seemed ready each time he was called upon and no other misplayed position can cause a team more grief.

(Photo by Koki Nagahama/Getty Images)

The weakest forward position is still six, even if Shannon Frizell had appeared to be the answer to Jerome Kaino’s question, because he has not stayed healthy, because Dalton Papali’i and Luke Jacobson do not play as big, and Scott Barrett appears to be shifted to lock again. But this is splitting hairs: most teams would love to have these choices.

South Africa

How odd is it that one of the Boks’ weakest areas is goalkicking, if Handre Pollard cannot make it back? Manie Libbok is an exciting playmaker, with weapons galore outside him, but World Cups usually come down to nerveless kicks in the air, with the world watching each revolution, and no mercy for the miss. Libbok has been anything but convincing off the tee of late, even if he nailed many a crucial goal in the URC playoffs for the Stormers.

In the pack, with no current starter having fewer than 60 caps (if Duane Vermeulen wins his eighthman spot back from powerful Jasper Wiese) the Boks only have one question mark: Bongi Mbonambi’s troubling lineout woes.

The Boks game plan is physical and intimidating, yes, but more than all of that fury is accuracy: precision. The least precise parts right now are late match kicks and throws.

Ireland

Seven time losing quarterfinalists Ireland must be a consensus “second team” for many fans, as they are easy to like at most positions, have had heartaches aplenty, and have quiet coaches.

Flaws do not exist in their starting 15 except at scrum time: Andrew Porter is a penalty magnet, leading the Six Nations in that ignominy some years, and a focal point for refs. He is also not capable of running the pivot or dummying the loop to current Irish standards.

On the bench, the weakest plank is “backup game manager,” whether that is the reserve flyhalf or nine.

Scotland

The best Scottish team in a long time drew the worst pool in history.

The reasons they will lose out again are their set piece frailty (only as compared to South Africa and Ireland) and midfield defence.

Their weakest players are try scoring 13 Huw Jones (only on defence) because he opens the door as wide without the ball as he does with it, and (as odd as it may sound) their South African props. Old WP Nel is past it and less-than-technical Pierre Schoeman is a bit like Thomas Gallo of Argentina: better at carrying the ball than carrying the scrum.

In addition, the emigres often play worst when up against their old countries (Paul Willemse, Jack Dempsey, Duhan van der Merwe, Bundee Aki) because they try too hard.

Australia

I am not privy to Eddie Jones’ library, even if I have read his books, but I would expect to find many hardcovers of “the great men in history.” This theory hangs the story of humans on several dozen big actors, upon whom the turning points of history supposedly rest.

He carries himself in a presser or in practice as if he has special and rare knowledge, and tends to run off assistants who have an ambition to be head coach one day. Presumably Steve Hansen is done with all that.

Thus, it makes sense that Jones has thrown a swashbuckling young ten into the fire, without much of a backup.

The weakness for the Wallabies is at flyhalf, with a couple of cool cats with a handful of caps.

(Photo by Peter Meecham/Getty Images)

Warren Gatland and Simon Raiwalui are sure to send their hardest tacklers at Carter Gordon and Ben Donaldson, who have scarcely been tested in proper, full-on contact at Test level.

Beyond that, they will see many different zones, looks, and gimmicks in the backfield; the bane of a young ten’s existence being the intercept.

Tighthead is the other big hole for Australia; that is illustrated by one question. Who are the two Wallaby tightheads who will sing the anthem in the opening match against scrum gods Georgia?

England

What is the strength? The draw.

It is very difficult that even this struggling outfit will fail to qualify.

But they face a tough Argentina immediately and it feels like Steve Borthwick’s team could spiral if it lost.

Their flaws are born of a lack of red zone finesse and constipated scoring. Look no further than numbers eight and nine.

Jack van Poortvliet and Billy Vunipola may, for very different reasons, miss this tourney. For a long time, dating back three seasons, the 8-9 axis has seemed clunky for England. It remains so.

Alex Mitchell, Danny Care and Ben Youngs is an interesting stew: a gumbo without roux. Pick any one of these three and you have a wholly different taste profile.

Similarly if the next cab off the rank to replace Vunipola (even if not banned, he is notoriously susceptible to injury as he wildly veers from unfit to overly taxed).

Argentina

The Pumas are vulnerable at scrum, where Thomas Gallo is just a bit small. He is listed at 1.76 metres, but that feels generous. It is not overstating it to claim Argentina will only go as far as their scrum takes them.

They have flyhalves: Santiago Carreras and Nicolas Sanchez. But Carreras, not a natural ten, has been the incumbent, with Emiliano Boffelli kicking for poles. This has left Sanchez short of game time.

Argentina have needed territory and game management, but seem wedded to Carreras, who does not give them either.

Fiji

Fiji may have the biggest coach in Raiwalui, who was a forwards coach for Australia, and they may have the best hybrid player in the world in La Rochelle’s Levani Botia, who can take anyone one-on-one, whether at flank or centre.

The two weakest links are at flyhalf, where diminutive 23-year old Caleb Muntz cannot steer a game well enough to force the Fijian style on most teams; and hooker, in the form of 23-year old Tevita Ikanivere, who wafts the ball, rather than guns it.

Wales

Wales are dire. Their coach, Warren Gatland, admitted famously he would not have resumed the job if he knew how bad things really were.

So where to start?

There is quality in the back row (as usual) and in the backs as a whole; old Lions who know how to play in a knockout: patiently, pragmatically, and powerfully.

But there are glaring weaknesses. At lock, Will Rowlands is one of the best young talents in all of the UK. But Adam Beard has lost his mojo and Daffydd Jenkins is not going to match the likes of Will Skelton.

Johnny Williams will do his muscular best at 12, but he is not ready to tackle the world’s largest midfield (Fiji) or Samu Kerevi, probably Australia’s best player.

Who are your weakest links?

The Crowd Says:

2023-10-15T13:38:43+00:00

Kane

Roar Guru


I believe we can safely say Ireland have underperfomed at World Cups now.

2023-08-27T00:50:43+00:00

Olly

Roar Rookie


I feel like these comments aged well :laughing:

2023-08-26T10:22:16+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


Every team has.

2023-08-26T06:59:09+00:00

Kane

Roar Guru


Well that depends which of your arguments I align with? If I chose one it contradicts another. Ireland have underperformed at worlds cups. There’s no hiding from that fact.

2023-08-25T23:56:28+00:00

Jonty Shonty

Roar Pro


Bongis first throw. Was ok after that though.

2023-08-25T22:26:18+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Not afraid of Ireland. thats a silly comment. May the best team win if they meet. Will be a great game.

2023-08-25T21:53:04+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


So you think a team that has struggled to put two convincing performances together and struggled to even finish in the top 4 of the 5 Nations most years never mind top 4 in the world which is what you need to be to make it. At least Ireland don't blame the ref when their right to the WC is denied.

2023-08-25T19:33:57+00:00

Kane

Roar Guru


Seems you pick and choose when to apply rules me thinks :laughing:

2023-08-25T18:59:45+00:00

Kane

Roar Guru


I'm reading a lot of excuse, but if I wade through them it sounds like it wasn't ever a surprise Ireland lost because Ireland aren't very good? "Ireland have never beaten the hosts of a WC so when they lost to Japan it was not really a surprise" - You telling me that Ireland weren't expected to win that? :laughing: Your argument that if you come second in the pool you expect to lose the quarter is contradictory to their loss to Ireland who finished THIRD in their pool, which way are you having it? I mean both England and Argentina are ranked above Australia Wales and Fiji, but by your logic neither of them should expect to beat the Aus Wales or Fiji if they finish second in their pool?

2023-08-25T16:07:58+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


Ireland got to be number 1 by winning a few warm up games against weakened sides. I guess SA must be now better than NZ as they beat Wales pretty bad. I know Jacko that you were afraid that Ireland were going to beat NZ in 2019 and gave NZ no chance, but I would say you would be lucky to find one article saying Ireland was going to beat NZ that day written by a credible source. I don't hear people saying 2011 was terrible for Oz because they suffered a shock defeat in the group and went out to NZ in the knockouts, why was Ireland doing the same thing any different. :rugby: Like with soccer, teams like Argentina won the WC eventually so with France and Ireland. Imagine telling an Argentina fan in 77 that just like all the other WC, they were never going to win the Cup and teams like Brazil, Germany and Italy would always be there. As soccer has shown, Rugby is starting to, and Basketball may be next the Champions League in European sports will improve nations better than anything else. Like we are seeing with Georgia and Spain and rubbish teams like Ireland who have more wins in the last 20 years v NZ, Oz and SA than they did in the 100 years before.

2023-08-25T15:55:16+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


2015 how many players were injured for that quarters, When you lose 6 of your starters including captain and vice captain. That day they were missing Paul O'Connell, Johnny Sexton, Peter O'Mahony, Sean O'Brien and Jared Payne, and Tommy Bowe went off during the game, I think most people would be hard pressed to name another Irish player that day apart from BOD who had retired from international rugby but was brought back in because Ireland had no one else. :rugby: In 2003 the finished second in their pool. They beat Oz once between that WC and 1979 so finishing second was not unexpected. You finish second in the group you are expected to lose the quarters. Now the question is how where Ireland ranked in the top 3 when they had 1 win v SA, OZ and NZ combined between 1979 and 2003 and it was at home, because the rankings when they first came out were rubbish. First ever rankings that came out Sept 2003 1. England 89.95 2. New Zealand 89.80 3. Ireland 83.92 4. Australia 83.81 5. France 82.85 6. South Africa 80.92 7. Argentina 80.00 8. Samoa 74.67 9. Scotland 74.42 10. Wales 74.24. So somehow Ireland were ranked higher than the World champions and a team they had not beaten since 1965 (SA). Between 1976 and 2011 Ireland and France played on average a game a year, Ireland had 5 wins (1 away from home), losing to them was not unexpected. :rugby: While to most SH team Argentina has been a easy beat, Ireland had not beaten Argentina outside of Ireland until 2014 so not really a surprise that they lost to them. Remember the 1999 team had finished second last in the 5Ns in 1999 to avoid a 4th straight wooden spoon and had lost to Italy (a T2 side) at home in 1997 and at the start of the 99 WC had a 2/5 win rate against Italy, so not really a surprise. If you think rugby is irrelevant in Oz you should have seen it in Ireland in the 90s where we were built like the Japanese but as fast as the English forwards. :rugby: 2011 they should have beaten Gats played a blinder while Kidney did not (much like Eng v NZ in 2019 but not as badly beaten). So once they have failed to surpass expectation but even then they were ranked 8th in the World 10pt behind Oz. :rugby: Ireland have never beaten the hosts of a WC so when they lost to Japan it was not really a surprise and losing to NZ was not really a surprise either though the lack of belief was. :rugby: If you ask most SH fans they have NZ, SA, Arg and Oz to top their pools this year so if the NH sides aren't expected to top pools when all the RC currently have their worse records against 6N sides what had they 20 years ago when Ireland hadn't beaten any of them outside Dublin except for Oz once in 1979.

2023-08-25T15:09:01+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


I think Ireland would rather face NZ than France as NZ will be so up for the match they may try to hard (ala 2007) and try do to much to make a point which would suit Ireland as they would be confident they could win penalties off NZ as a result or isolate players. France on the other hand are at home, much bigger players and are the one team to have a much better record against Ireland this WC cycle. Ireland's only win v France was this year and the Champions Cup has been Toulouse and La Rochelle knocking over Ulster, Munster and Leinster so mentally playing NZ would be much better.

2023-08-25T10:52:10+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


I am also not sure that this ABs regieme are great selectors (as in choosing the right horses for courses) which is also a hangover from Hansen P2 (Scooter at 6 in a semi). Fozzie is too loyal i.e why is Clarke in the team and hos is Finlay 2nd 9 off the rank. This is all clearly from a few years ago. The reluctance to bring on Finau and Shooter attests to this. With no injuries and playing off Ryan and Irish Joe this team will be hard to beat. I'd rather France beat them in pool stage as that will fire a rocket up their ass. If they beat France, I see how this goes. Beat whoever in QF and then unable to sustain that winning run any longer and get caught out by Eddie's smarts in Semis if not a red card ... etc ... I'd be more worried about Boks, Scotland than Ireland in the playoffs to be honest ... the latter will have been brutalised by that time and unfortunately in RWC pedigree counts ... teams/coaches with the most experience i.e Gatland/Jones etc are the ones who know how to thrive at this level ...

AUTHOR

2023-08-25T10:51:15+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Wasn’t saying Aki or Willemse play for Scotland: the wider point I was making was emigres play badly versus their true country of origin because they try too hard, and listed 4/5 of them

AUTHOR

2023-08-25T10:46:43+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Yes, that’s the weakness: one lock down and suddenly the last 20 is peril. I suppose J Lord is seen as the future

2023-08-25T08:58:22+00:00

Nick Maguire

Roar Rookie


Agree, I've posted previously Wales won't get out of the group stage. RA should buy lottery tickets

2023-08-25T06:28:08+00:00

John Ferguson

Expert


Million dollar question there Nick, I think we will, the fact that an inexperienced Wales side couldn't beat out an undermanned and 3 yellow carded England who have their own struggles with form says a lot. I think it will be us and Fiji.

2023-08-25T06:24:14+00:00

KTinHK

Roar Pro


All coaches who keep going long enough have had failures. You could mount a similar case against many others. But 18 straight is a world record. He flogged the Wallies 3 nil in Australia and made us look stupid. He has coached 2 sides to World Cup finals and was assistant coach at another. He won a Shute Shield, a Super Rugby title, a Tri Nations, 2 Beldisloes, 3 Six Nations titles, a Grand Slam, and World Rugby Coach Of The Year. Yes he might crash and burn, but after the last 2 decades of Wallabies failures wouldn’t you give him a go? How about everyone just support him and the team and give him a chance? Not too much to ask?

2023-08-25T05:14:38+00:00

Wal

Roar Guru


Facts: As a coach... In 2005, the Wallabies lost seven games straight. At the end of their European tour they lost eight of the last nine matches, Jones endured a torrid season with the Reds in 2007, who finished bottom of the Super 14 table Joining Scarecens in the 2008/09 season.[26] However, he announced in February that he would be stepping down at the end of the season due to personal reasons,[27] but he then quit early in March 2009 after disagreements with the board. Japan suffered three consecutive losses in the 2015 World Rugby Pacific Nations Cup. After beating Canada 20–6, they lost to the United States, Fiji and Tonga to finish fourth with just one win. On 6 December 2022, Jones was sacked as England head coach by the RFU following a poor run of results in which England had won just 5 of 12 tests in 2022.[50 2023 0-4 with Australia There is no doubt he has had some major success in his career but there have also been some abject failures.

2023-08-25T05:02:43+00:00

Just Nuisance

Roar Rookie


RG and Kleyn red hot right now .. But Sous remains my favourite Mustard ....I'm a big fan of his ..Have been since his days with The JHB Lions ..Orie won't let any team down and does bring added colour which is still a big deal these days ..So I also truly don't know ..But unlike Nr 10 spot , this is a nice dilemma for Rassie and co.

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