NRL prelim finals talking points: Why Broncos have the firepower to give Penrith a run for their money

By Michael Hagan / Expert

Brisbane have all the weapons that can bring down Penrith on Grand Final night and we won’t see another lopsided game like last year but the Panthers still should have just enough firepower to get a third straight premiership. 

With their unbelievable Grand Final experience, Penrith have an edge there but when you look at how well the Broncos have played, particularly over the past six weeks, the premiers only have a marginal advantage when you weigh everything up.

I think we’ll see a much closer contest this Sunday than what we saw last year when Penrith overwhelmed Parramatta.

The Eels had to play their best game to get past the Cowboys and they didn’t have the energy and confidence to go with the Panthers.

Brisbane won’t have that problem – they wrapped up the prelim final win over the Warriors midway through the second half and didn’t have to go at full intensity. 

And I reckon they can play even better than what they’ve shown. They can be a genuine threat to the Panthers if they play like they’ve been doing recently.

From a rugby league point of view, if you love to see all of the components on display at one time I think we’re going to see a couple of teams that have elite quality in their defence and in their attack. 

It’s going to be a realy high-quality Grand Final and the scoreline should be close all the way to the final siren.

There is very little separating both teams when you look at the numbers across the board and if you compare the two line-ups, there’s similarities everywhere.

Adam Reynolds and Nathan Cleary are two of the best halfbacks in the NRL at managing a game, Dylan Edwards vs Reece Walsh at fullback are two players in top form, Ezra Mam and Jarome Luai at five-eighth are similar sort of players, Liam Martin against Kurt Capewell on an edge, the go-forward of James Fisher-Harris and Moses Leota up against Payne Haas and Pat Carrigan. 

Billy Walters had a belter on Saturday night. He scored two tries and knows when to give it to Reynolds and Walsh or when to get a forward to take a hit-up to create the momentum for the faster guys out wide to play off the back of that. 

Part of the formula to beating Penrith is you can’t let them get settled and jam you in a corner at the start of your set from the backfield. The Broncos have the ability with guys like Walsh, Selwyn Cobbo, Herbie Farnworth and Kotoni Staggs to get some early momentum in a set before the forwards take up the mantle. 

Penrith rely on field position. As soon as the Storm turned the ball over, the Panthers went straight on the attack. 

After playing so many finals and big games against the Panthers in recent years, Reynolds understands that and he will be making sure they’re going forward or he’s kicking them downfield to give themselves their best chance.

Even though Penrith are a very well structured team defensively, Walsh’s speed and creativity mean he’s one of only a few players in the NRL who can give them problems. 

Brisbane need to do a Penrith on Penrith. Their kick-chase and physicality has arguably been up there on the same level as the Panthers for most of this season and they need to bring that aggression to Accor Stadium to have any hope. 

The two best teams are there on Grand Final day – the playoffs have gone to script with the Roosters beating Cronulla in week one the only upset and that was an even money game anyway. 

They’re two healthy teams – now that Jarome Luai is back, the Panthers are at full strength and Brisbane have got their first-choice 17 available as well. 

For Brisbane to win, they’re going to have to limit the Panthers to 18-20 points max because it will be extremely hard for them to put points on them like they’ve done against lesser opposition in the past couple of months.

Both clubs have handled the Origin period really well even though they had a lot of players going through that extra workload in the middle stages of the season. 

There’s nothing new about Grand Final week for the Panthers because they’ve been in this position the past three years but Kevin Walters played in many of these games as a player and they’ve got their weekly preparation down pat even though there will be a few functions like the Dally Ms and media getting in the way.

There was a sense of inevitability to both prelim finals. It was a bit of letdown watching both games.

Melbourne couldn’t handle the leg speed and the physicality of the Panthers and the Warriors struggled to contain the same two facets of the game against Brisbane. 

That’s what those two teams have done all year and it’s why they finished one, two. They play fast and physical for long periods of games.

Warriors gone but not forgotten

For the Warriors to make it all the way to the prelim final after the past three years they’ve had to endure was a tremendous achievement. 

It looked like they ran out of energy against the Broncos and they’ll be disappointed their season has ended like that but what they’ve done has been exceptional considering where they’ve come from at the start of the year.

Andrew Webster will probably win coach of the year at the Dally Ms on Wednesday night although it would be hard to go past Ivan Cleary for all that he’s achieved with Penrith.

Storm blown away

They’ve had a strong season given the quality of players that they lost in the off-season and realigned their roster a bit younger this year.

Craig Bellamy talked about them being inconsistent at times and when you redevelop your team it can take a while for younger players to learn those lessons. 

They looked like they were a bit wounded with a couple of their key players against Penrith. Cameron Munster was very quiet and Jahrome Hughes was carrying a knee injury and they’ve played pretty much the entire season without Ryan Papenhuyzen so they’ve got a couple of genuine reasons why they’re not quite up there with the two best teams. 

Bring bunker in for forward pass howlers

I saw the meme floating around about Reece Walsh being offered an NFL deal after his pass to Selwyn Cobbo that was let go by the officials on Saturday night. 

That wasn’t just a howler of a bad call, it was a grade-two howler. 

The touch judges have got to have a better feel for those sorts of things, it would be shattering for something like that to decide a Grand Final. 

I’ve written about this previously that getting the obvious calls right is critical for referees and I don’t mind the idea of letting the bunker step in for decisions like that if it means we don’t have the obvious bad blue occasionally getting through.

The Crowd Says:

2023-09-25T19:07:10+00:00

Bill

Roar Rookie


Haha halfway there with the maroon Stewy !!

2023-09-25T15:36:23+00:00

Full Credit to the Boys

Roar Rookie


Whenever I watch Penrith and Michael Ennis is commentating, I turn the sound off. It is a really interesting perspective because you see the expression on the oppositions faces. It is usually some kind of shock because most teams haven’t trained at the level Penrith seems to play. Brisbane do seem to be very fit and fast, but the Panthers are relentless. As Marty John’s said last week, they don’t have set up plays. Each play is threatening.

2023-09-25T11:06:53+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


Got it, thanks.

2023-09-25T10:04:38+00:00

Stewy76

Roar Rookie


You sound like a true broncos convert to me Bill.. :silly:

2023-09-25T09:43:38+00:00

Muzz Manyana

Roar Rookie


The Broncos don't know how to be patient, build their game or go set for set. They play high risk footy that either blows teams off the park or results in plenty of errors and turn overs. This is where Penrith are significantly better and should see them win quite comfortably. Panthers 13 plus.

2023-09-25T09:41:59+00:00

Bill

Roar Rookie


As a Manly fan I'll be letting my instincts decide on the day. Keep having to remind myself it's the bloody Broncos they're playing not some new kids on the block :laughing:

2023-09-25T09:35:13+00:00

Bill

Roar Rookie


Who needs technology. The old school wooden ruler can be the template. Just paint lines every meter up the field (number them so our failing eyes don't get blurry) and then problem solved.

2023-09-25T08:41:29+00:00

The Sporacle

Roar Rookie


Drive your car at 25ks per hour. When you get to a signpost throw a ball out the window slightly backwards. Stop the car and see where the ball lands in relation to the post. The line would need to move forward at the same speed the player was as he passed the ball.

2023-09-25T08:41:16+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


Well they've played 3 teams and it looked clunky against all three including our scrappy squad playing guys who needed a corporate trainer with get to know you exercises before the game

2023-09-25T08:39:25+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


Not really,it doesn't solve the direction out of the hands aspect which is the rule. The NRL can do a line now, heck a 14 yo kid can put one on

2023-09-25T08:34:22+00:00

Col in Paradise

Roar Rookie


Yeh right....don't think so..

2023-09-25T08:32:44+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


What are you on about, oh it's the Asian denigration angle again :thumbup:

2023-09-25T08:11:07+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


Cleary retiring from at a scrum would be nice as well.

2023-09-25T07:46:51+00:00

Collie Flower

Roar Rookie


Congratulations to the Panthers and Broncos for earning their Grand Final spots with emphatic wins. I'm proud of the Warriors' season, disappointed for the players in their loss, but not disappointed in them. It was very lonely being surrounded by Broncos fans at the stadium. I screamed myself hoarse, but towards the end was pretty glum. Despite that, it was a good night - just didn't go the way I wanted. Looking forward to the Grand Final this weekend. Hopefully it's a better contest than either of the preliminary finals. Good luck to both teams, hope it's a great contest.

2023-09-25T05:26:11+00:00

criag

Roar Rookie


Yes, I always thought script writers should be offended by that. Then I saw a great comment that said "If people can write scripts about dystopian futures in which life is in fact a simulation made by sentient machines to harness humans' heat and electricity as an energy source, they can probably write ones about Gary Taylor-Fletcher scoring a last-minute equaliser against Stoke!"

2023-09-25T05:10:56+00:00

Glory Bound

Roar Rookie


Two words mushi... giggity giggity! :laughing:

2023-09-25T04:59:04+00:00

Dumbo

Roar Rookie


"The NFL has the technology to draw a line across the screen in live video to determine 1st down situations. That would assist the bunker in making a commonsense best guess on these occasions. " I don't know anything about the NFL, but if the "US Bunker" can do it then, given the apparent high cost of the NRL's bunker, maybe they can do it also; or at least supply the technology at a smallish additional cost. If they can, then having an extra guy in the bunker whose sole job is to police the forward passes would be the way to use it. If they can't then let's try going back to a second referee.

2023-09-25T03:46:43+00:00

Rellum

Roar Guru


It means they need to get it right 100% of the time in 100% of people's minds (but actually not so they have something to faux rage about in their writing)

2023-09-25T03:44:50+00:00

Rellum

Roar Guru


I hate that. Commentators/press always say it when the ending is the most obvious generic ending a script writer would come up with.

2023-09-25T03:32:30+00:00

BigGordon

Roar Rookie


You're right, but how much of that is down to pressure from the opposition? From what I saw on the weekend, they made a lot of errors, many of which were forced by the Panthers defence.

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